So, do you believe the royal couples revelations made tonight?

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I did. felt more authentic than I've expected. You?

@DogsAreShit They need to be in the media to make money now. So they might not have got money for the interview but this will put them on the front pages of news/magazines and raise their profile.

I believe them. I found it really sad. Imagine not being able to get help for your mental health. I think Harry has shown himself as a loving, protective father and husband. Good for them, they were treated appallingly.

I believe they believe it.
But. She is a millionaire. She can pay to keep her son safe, she doesnt need the RF.
They have not been treated well, but they say they went in blind.. Which is naive at best.
There is fault on both sides.

I wasn't going to watch it then did anyway.

I've always thought Meghan was perfectly fine. Not really a royal watcher.

What I got from it was that she really wasn't told what she was in for. How the press can be, and they've really gone for her. Not having any freedom. All that. I think she had no idea and not surprised she got what sounds like reactive depression. She went from presumably an active social life, freedom, friends to being incredibly isolated.

For example Megan made Kate cry or Kate made Megan cry? It sounds like they were both pretty stressed and had an argument. That happens, doesn't make either of them the villain of the piece.

I completely agree with this, but then questions have to be asked about who in the palace leaked this event to the press and what was the agenda, because it certainly Painted M as the aggressor and Kate the victim.

If you really think about it, it shows Kate’s as lacking integrity in staying silent and not setting the story straight.

Buckingham Palace needs to respond with one word, Bollocks, sums them up perfectly

I believed them, I thought it seemed genuine

I wanted to know (although it is obviously a very intimate thing) how she survived being suicidal and heavily pregnant, through newborn stage, potential PND and the tour of south africa without psychological help. I was incredulous (but I'm not saying its untrue) that they were not able to access a doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist or counsellor without going through the palace officials. A year seems a really long time to be on the edge, or suicidal and not have any help (when practically and financially, you would imagine it would be easier for them than Joe Bloggs who has to join an NHS waiting list) which explains why they would feel the need to escape.

I didn't see what the chicken scenes added though.

I have mixed feelings. I believe the press were awful to Meghan and I'm not surprised it led to her feeling suicidal. More should have been done to help her through it.

I definitely think she would have googled him. You are dating a Prince!! Of course you are going to google him and his family. I remember seeing a pic from when she was teenager outside Buckingham palace, so I'm sure she had knowledge of the royal family.

I felt like Meghan and Harry had a very 'poor me' attitude.

The titles are confusing me because most royal offsprings don't have titles? Princess Anne and Prince Edwards children aren't Princes and Princesses so why did she describe like it's never happened before and it must be a race thing.

The security issue was irritating, they can afford their own security. You chose to have a child, it's YOUR job to protect them.

I reckon Meghan thought marrying a prince would be a fairytale when actually it's a nightmare. She wanted out and she made that happen.

I do wish them all the best though. They seem like great parents and I hope they are very happy away from 'the firm'.

Is “my truth” not just a wanky way of saying “my version of events”. 2 sides to every story. Theirs is very sad.

Harry definitely Charles son, there is a strong resemblance I see (including the bald patch)

@Totallydefeated

I think they both believe they told the truth. However they’re both so emotionally damaged that all events will have been viewed through that lens, they’re likely to have interpreted meanings differently to how they were intended, etc, and may well be quite far from the objective truth.

This is the most charitable I can be about them.

I believe that he believes her.

I think she truly believed she could overcome and overturn centuries of royal protocol by the force of her will and charm and is absolutely enraged by the fact that didn’t happen. And I think all her narrative should be read through that lens.

Actual objective truth? Nope.

No

Archie wasn’t made a prince when apparently he should have been. Then to deny him security because he’s not a prince is putting his life in danger. No wonder Meghan and Harry don’t want his face shown.

Harry has exactly the same nose and eyes as Charlie’s, he looks a lot more like Charles than William does.

The Royal Family shouldn’t be racist, as they have mixed race too, due to Philippa of Hainault and Queen Charlotte, grandmother of Queen Victoria.

Yes 100%
They have the Californian therapy vibe which some won’t like but they are Authenticator themselves and it rang true as their experience.

@Freddiefox

For example Megan made Kate cry or Kate made Megan cry? It sounds like they were both pretty stressed and had an argument. That happens, doesn't make either of them the villain of the piece.

I completely agree with this, but then questions have to be asked about who in the palace leaked this event to the press and what was the agenda, because it certainly Painted M as the aggressor and Kate the victim.

If you really think about it, it shows Kate’s as lacking integrity in staying silent and not setting the story straight.

Yes, exactly. I understood this whole part to be about the press reporting, and the way the RF expected her to suck up being painted as an evil diva making Kate cry, when the reality is in a stressful week kate was a bit of a cow, said sorry and they all moved on. Seemed clear to me that meghan wasn't moaning about kate making her cry, she was upset about a story being leaked in a way that lied and then being told no one would even attempt.to set it straight. I'd be fucked off about that.

@Cleverpolly3

Space cadets Also Harry came off much worse than she did.

All that bleating around being trapped.He always seemed quite happy living it up, shagging posh blondes, dressing up as a Nazi, stumbling out of nightclubs and shooting lions

My money is on her chewing him up and spitting him out in the not too distant future

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I believe them

I feel bloody sorry for them too

@greengrey

I believe them. Or at least I believe that that is their perception.

I still think Harry is James Hewitt's though!

Diana didn’t meet Hewitt till well after Harry was born.

Yeh, they told their truth and I believe them that they felt unsupported, but Meghan lacked resilience and Harry didn't tell Meghan that every woman that marries in to royal gets dragged by the media, and they both lacked judgement. She said she had a very clear sense of herself before she met Harry but then cracked up over newspaper headlines and the men in grey suits being weird.

But I do think now they did the right thing leaving and good luck to them, they have a lovely house and life now.

No.

What is the most annoying is the bloody Millions spent on that wedding and it was all fake - we were fed a big fat lie! It’s disgusting!

I believe a comment was made about their future child’s skin colour.
I believe they were told their son would not be a prince or have security paid for.
I believe they were both deeply unhappy.

I do not believe much or even any of it happened within the context or with the narrative they’re implying.

I think Meghan, perhaps not unreasonably had a very unrealistic perception of what being in the royal family would be like. She thought princess in the colloquial sense, with riches and a lavish lifestyle, not the reality of balmoral, duty and stiff upper lip.

The person who let her down in nearly all of these situations is her husband, who comes across as too dim and indulged to have any self awareness. Kate Middleton and her entire family were absolutely vilified by the press for years, Harry knew this. Harry knew their son wouldn’t be a prince, Harry knew about the curtsying, Harry knew how to access mental health support.

The entire reason they’ve done this interview isn’t to set the record straight or really with the British public in mind, it’s to launch their new careers, ironically, changing the world through compassion.

I don’t think Archie should have been made a Prince under the current rules. And only working (and I assume retired) Royals get paid security. They didn’t want to be working Royals so why get paid security.

I can understand for Harry it must be strange not to have security as I assume he had previously had it, but he needs to pay for it now.

'''For example Megan made Kate cry or Kate made Megan cry? It sounds like they were both pretty stressed and had an argument. That happens, doesn't make either of them the villain of the piece.

That's what I inferred as well.

The press hold too much power over people and establishments. It's frightening.

Absolutely not.

And I think they'll split up in a couple of years and Harry'll come crawling back. But unfortunately his nan and grandad probably won't live to see it.