So, do you believe the royal couples revelations made tonight?

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I did. felt more authentic than I've expected. You?

@Toptotoeunicolour

The clue was at the end when she spoke about how you tell a story. There are grains of truth in what they said, but Oprah made it all sound way more sensational than it actually was. They should have just left to enjoy their wealth and their growing family under the radar - they would have been happy so would everyone else have wished them well (well, I for one would have). This was all just shit stirring, stuff that you would do far better to sort out within the family. A decent sit down and face to face could have sorted out their issues. That's not going to be possible now. But their money making opportunities have increased. The outcome is usually what someone planned, as my old boss used to say.

Harry and Meghan left the Royal Family in January 2020. One year later (before the interview), the tabloid and people like Piers Morgan are STILL talking about them despite the fact they lived the majority of that time in relative isolation away from attention.

The British Media are toxic.

What proof do you have she lied? Apart from surmising that YOU think she has lied.

It's not me surmising. The wedding 3 days before and the title stuff have already been discredited. I also saw someone else discussing the fact she said she hadn't seen her sister in decades was disproven. By adding in stuff that's untrue all they have done is lead people to question the accuracy of the other stuff they said. If you want people to believe everything don't tell lies it's not a difficult concept.

"Though rich and powerful, Dionysius was supremely unhappy. His iron-fisted rule had made him many enemies, and he was tormented by fears of assassination.
The king’s dissatisfaction came to a head one day after a court flatterer named Damocles showered him with compliments and remarked how blissful his life must be. “Since this life delights you,” an annoyed Dionysius replied, “do you wish to taste it yourself and make a trial of my good fortune?” When Damocles agreed, Dionysius seated him on a golden couch and ordered a host of servants wait on him. He was treated to succulent cuts of meat and lavished with scented perfumes and ointments. Damocles couldn’t believe his luck, but just as he was starting to enjoy the life of a king, he noticed that Dionysius had also hung a razor-sharp sword from the ceiling. It was positioned over Damocles’ head, suspended only by a single strand of horsehair. From then on, the courtier’s fear for his life made it impossible for him to savor the opulence of the feast or enjoy the servants. After casting several nervous glances at the blade dangling above him, he asked to be excused, saying he no longer wished to be so fortunate."

No, I don’t believe everything they said to be true.

For example, they couldn’t get married 3 days before the wedding. The garden wouldn’t have been licensed and I highly doubt the Archbishop would perform the sanctity of marriage outside the church.

Likewise, I don’t believe that Archie’s colour is an issue - otherwise, they wouldn’t have been married in the first place. To imply that he wasn’t given a title because of his skin is awful. He wasn’t entitled to a title until such a point that Charles is king. Will & Kates children have titles as they are direct heir to the crown.

They had such a high turnover of staff too.

It’s such a shame, because they were loved initially. But, they wouldn’t conform to what’s expected of a royal.

@ShallowCoastalWaters

And on the subject of security how on earth did they think it would work.

When Oprah questioned him on it - Harry casually mentioned 'my UK security'. As though there was no question in his mind that this security would follow him around the world. These British police protection officers would follow him to where ever he decided to locate himself. What about their lives and their families??

If it wasn't British police what was the expectation. Who did he expect would pay for it?

I think they initially moved to Canada where protection was provided by the RCMP but the Canadian Govt decided they weren't going to fund it anymore so H&M left. Why they would think the UK police would guard them in the USA I've no idea, I don't know if they'd have any authority there. I suspect it would come down to Homeland Security/FBI or local police and I don't see the locals rushing to pick up the tab.

I sympathise with them on some things. It seems quite petty not to let their children be Prince/Princess. However, I thought it outrageous that they expect for their security to be paid by people in the UK when they are not even living here. I thought Prince Charles might pay it out of his own pocket but I don't see why they should expect that if they're not working for the Royal family any more and not even living in the UK. The racism claims really need to be investigated. They shouldn't have mentioned them if they weren't willing to provide further detail because it means innocent people are now suspected.

Why would they go on TV and tell a pack of lies?

Likewise, I don’t believe that Archie’s colour is an issue - otherwise, they wouldn’t have been married in the first place. To imply that he wasn’t given a title because of his skin is awful. He wasn’t entitled to a title until such a point that Charles is king. Will & Kates children have titles as they are direct heir to the crown.

They were apparently told their children wouldn't get a title even when Charles is king though. That isn't what normally happens and doesn't sound fair. I can see why they would be better about that.

It’s not about it being true or not. That’s too simplistic. It’s about was the whole story presented. And that’s already been proved to be it was not.

Archie not being a prince. She never mentioned he was never destined to be one at birth under the law that has existed for over s century.

Not getting a therapist. She failed to mention Harry has a therapist due to his mother’s death. Or that she had her own staff and money and didn’t need to go to thr hr manager,

Being married three days before hand, she failed to mention it was just an exchange of vows snd they didn’t get married three days before hand as she said.

It was her version of the truth. Oprah simply sat back and gave her the platform.

better bitter

@stablefeet

Credibility - lied about getting married before the official ceremony. Deliberately intended to mislead with the comment about Archie's skin colour being linked to him not being an HRH. (They knew full well he hadn't been entitled to that since 2012). Went to a member of the royal household asking for help with suicidal thoughts and was "denied" help - unlikely isn't it? Particularly as her husband was already being supported by counselling and let's face it as an American she'd be much more accustomed to counselling being a part of life and - she had plenty of money to pay for it. And yet - people are believing every word uttered in that interview. Has the world gone mad? Putting so much weight on one word uttered by Harry - concern - when we know that the same interview includes much that was intended to mislead and sensationalise. I just wish they had either given pure and unembellished truth or preferably dealt with this in a much less destructive and vindictive manner. Yes, damaged souls but pretty nasty with it. And that's coming from me - who thinks the royal family has had it's day and should end when the queen goes.

Spot on.

Once Queen dies, the whole lot should be self- funded.
Heck, where does ''Protection'' end?
They all should pay to protect themselves, out of own pockets.

Harry anf Meghan whining about having pocket money stopped as well off middle aged adults while so much of the World is genuinely suffering is so utterly self- indulgent.

I also feel very sorry for her father [Archie looks the spit of him, with the square bonce!]..Surely ''Charity begins at home?''

@Charliecatpaws

Why would they go on TV and tell a pack of lies?

Is this a serious question?

Didn't he leave when he couldn't/didn't want to progress any further as it would have involved a desk job?

A situation that many career military face.

A young couple both with difficult damaging parents struggle when they have small children, fall out with family and are scared by pandemic and a very changed future. They are not so unusual and I think a little kindness and compassion could go a long way to helping them find a happier place.

There's always my side, your side and the truth. I think they're being honest with how they feel but it's not the whole picture, and frankly the whole thing just makes them look so cheap and pathetic.

Once Queen dies, the whole lot should be self- funded.

They pretty much are self funded via the civil list & crown estates.

"It seems quite petty not to let their children be Prince/Princess."

It's not a question of "not letting", more a question of waiting until it happens because Charles is King.

And if they want Archie to have a normal life unencumbered by Royal trappings in USA, then it's rather a moot point to bleat on about.

But of course she links it all back to racism, doesn't she?

@BigFatLiar

Didn't he leave when he couldn't/didn't want to progress any further as it would have involved a desk job?

A situation that many career military face.

Indeed. I read ''A Soldier's Song'' by Ken Lukowiack ..He was in 2 Para, and literally left jobless and penniless after his Service.

The Country didn't care a jot. It made me surprised and angry.

When Oprah questioned him on it - Harry casually mentioned 'my UK security'. As though there was no question in his mind that this security would follow him around the world. These British police protection officers would follow him to where ever he decided to locate himself. What about their lives and their families?

The UK provides security teams around the world for diplomatic staff, not really any different.
Many would no doubt love a posting to California!

They are all high profile without a Royal title and the Queens GGC, so yes he isn't being unreasonable, the threat to them hasn't magically gone away.

Aren’t we all glad that we are just the plebs! Free to do what we want, money permitting.

We want Royal Protection

Who's going to pay?

Someone else!

@BigFatLiar

Once Queen dies, the whole lot should be self- funded.

They pretty much are self funded via the civil list & crown estates.

£67,000,000 was amount paid by Taxpayers in 2019 {Quick google} Plus the weddings we pay for, and ''Security''

@Charliecatpaws

Why would they go on TV and tell a pack of lies?

Liars can’t stop themselves

The time frame is SO short from day 1 with Meghan to where we are now - between their marriage and stepping back it was barely 18 months. It seems they rushed into everything so quickly and made some very hasty decisions which will now impact their whole lives, forever.

So true. They met in July 2016.
They announced their engagement in Nov 2017 - is this when Meghan became a working royal and moved to the UK?
Their wedding was six months later in May 2018.
Pregnancy announcement Nov 2018. Suicidal thoughts Jan 2019.
At this point they must have planned their departure. Their Sussex Royal website was registered in March 2019 and all the associated patents were applied for in June 2019.
They announced stepping down, and made their website public, in Jan 2020.
So from engagement / becoming a working royal (Nov 2017) to putting exit plans in motion (Mar 2019) is about 16 months.

Meghan and Harry claimed they were self-funded at the time of Megxit. It’s a lie. I think maybe Meghan does believe it’s their money but they are funded by the British people and many of us are wondering why.