So, do you believe the royal couples revelations made tonight?

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I did. felt more authentic than I've expected. You?

There is more to this that meets the eye. I don't think Harry is charles son. Why would they cut him off financially??
Because as a royal you get paid for being a working royal as such or expenses etc all paid , they are no longer working royals and have gone to make their own money
Do you your parents still send you a monthly cheque

I lost any vestige of respect I had for her when she compared herself to Ariel the Little Mermaid with a straight face! Mature, educated, strong worldy feminist she is and all that

I can't believe why people are questioning Charles cutting them off financially!! Erm because hes a grown man who no longer works for the family firm therefore is no longer entitled to the financial rewards for that! What nearly 40 year old man should expect his father to pay his bills?

@TrustTheGeneGenie

An interview designed to be a takedown of the RF

Except they didn't say anything negative about the family at all, did they?

Are you being sarcastic?

Genuine question. They are clearly speading horrible things about the RF.

Exactly @donewithitalltodayandxmas! He is a big cringey man baby.

No. The main thing for me is that Harry considered existence in the RF to be toxic -
if true, why would he take the woman he loved, wanted to marry and have a family with into such a life? He is a more than financially independent adult and could have stepped aside, married and lived in private from the outset. It was offered to him, and them both, as I understand it

@steppemum

again - they were told they could have the wedding they wanted. Any wedding. They chose this wedding, and now she says it was all for the public not for her?

And the who made who cry. That is a nasty piece of sniping at Kate. Kate had a new baby, and 2 women, under massive amounts of stress meet for a bridesmaids fitting and words were said.
Probably both end up in tears, (who knows?) but certainly both are upset.
That is pretty normal in all families around times of high tension and especially when one of them has just given birth.
Kate apologises, sends flowers, Meghan accepts the apology. Then 2 years later Maghan feels the need to tell the world this. What a spiteful nasty thing to do really.

Why should Meghan have taken the blame for this when the papers reported a LOT that Meghan had made Kate cry and painted Meghan as a horrible bully?

If you were in this situation and everyone thought you had done something to upset someone, and you couldn’t answer back, wouldn’t you want them to set the record straight even years later?

and the Queen.
Meghan bangs on about lack of support etc, and at the same time says the Queen went out of her way to make her feel welcome and how much she liked the Queen's company.

So the head of this family who apparently rejected you went out of her way to welcome you and make you feel welcome but that wasn't enough?

@wewillmeetagain

I can't believe why people are questioning Charles cutting them off financially!! Erm because hes a grown man who no longer works for the family firm therefore is no longer entitled to the financial rewards for that! What nearly 40 year old man should expect his father to pay his bills?

I know, right? (joke!)

I couldn't believe that bit. It made Hazza look terrible.

@DoubleTweenQueen

No. The main thing for me is that Harry considered existence in the RF to be toxic - if true, why would he take the woman he loved, wanted to marry and have a family with into such a life? He is a more than financially independent adult and could have stepped aside, married and lived in private from the outset. It was offered to him, and them both, as I understand it

Well, yes, but he's a spoilt brat so that wasn't going to work.

@BibbityBobbety

I don't believe it.

1. Why on earth would Harry TELL his wife some irrelevant member of the royal family made comments on their baby's skin colour? And given Meghan never actually heard those comments herself, it's very heavy to label it as the whole RF being racist towards her. It's hearsay and something she can't comment on giving she did not hear it herself.
2. She takes pride in being an intelligent, wordly, independent, self made women who has forged a career in one of the most misogynist and competitive industries. Yet we are to believe she didn't have conversations with her her husband on what her life in the RF would entail and the impact on her career? What successful career woman blindly gets married into an institution (having been through a failed marriage previously), which requires her to move to another country, and give up her job, and doesn't read up on what they expect of her? Especially when their treatment of his mother is all over the news.
3. What the hell was Harry doing in all this? She was depressed, suicidal and he didn't get her treatment? He could fly her to another country to hide out and break ties with his family, but he couldn't use his substantial private resources to get her a residential appointment or have conversations with the family on her behalf. He didn't set her expectations on what exactly she was marrying into? And that's the RF's fault, given they are honest about who they are and what it all means.
4. His shock at being cut off financially is very entitled. They were hardly leaving him destitute with his mother's millions. And I think it reasonable that if he turns down royal duties he doesn't find financially benefit from it. But for a 36 year old man to be whining about not getting money from his father (while living off his mother's fortunes) is in bad taste - especially when there's a serious pandemic forcing most of his country and the world into poverty!
5. Harry talking about his good relationship with his grandmother, yet savaging everything she has worked for on international TV is unbelievably cruel.
6. The mixed messages on what they want. A quiet life away from the media yet he says doing podcasts and Netflix interviews are the only way he has to earn a living.....?! Do they not think there will be equal amounts of media scrutiny if they choose to make a living out of TV? And are we really saying the Hollywood press is less racist and kinder than British media?

It's all baffling.

1. Because he might have been frustrated about the conversation and he said he didn’t understand the race element early on - it might have been an aside “can you believe what x said” or on top of reading something in the press. It’s perfectly reasonable to talk to your wife/ girlfriend about odd conversations you’ve had with a family member.
2. She never said she blindly went in to it- she said she knew but she thought the trade off was that she would be supported to do so, and protected from lies/ smeers. She wasn’t.
3. Yes agree and it appears he was quite ashamed at doing nothing for her but I suppose in the end he did get her out or suggest that they step back as senior royals (I assume like the other children of the Queen/ or their children).
4. Agreed but I think probably a product of being entitled!
5. I didn’t hear savaging at all - they were very careful to say that it’s part and parcel of being in the family but they would have liked it to be different.
6. They never said they wanted a quiet life - they just didn’t want to be savaged on everything they do and prevented from sticking up for themselves. Living in LA and making your own choices within that bubble is very different from the life they were leading and probably far more freeing.

There is too much flakey contradiction for me to not believe very much of their childish and constantly self-centred complaining.

@wewillmeetagain

I can't believe why people are questioning Charles cutting them off financially!! Erm because hes a grown man who no longer works for the family firm therefore is no longer entitled to the financial rewards for that! What nearly 40 year old man should expect his father to pay his bills?

Imagine leaving a job and expecting your boss to still pay you.

Lastfreakinglegs

Part of me thinking she's like a black widow spider. She will chew him up, get bored of him and spit him out.“

What do you base your thinking on? Do you know them, personally?

What a ridiculous thing to say.

Yes.
Plus the more I think about it, the more it seems like it was William who made the racist comment - as there has never been a clear reason for the brothers ‘rift’, yet that would make sense & saying it was him would be extremely damaging to a future king.
But harry implied this was said when they got engaged or early in the relationship, and they all appeared ok at first
It was all lots of speculation and we could all say someone said this or that
Harry obviously didn't tell meghan a lot and could of prepared her more and they never needed to become working royals in the first place
Like the passport are they not taken because all your trips are booked for you and saying she wasn't allowed to seek help , why did Harry just stand by ? Hes never not done things he has wanted in the past

@Lastfreakinglegs

Part of me thinking she's like a black widow spider. She will chew him up, get bored of him and spit him out.

I totally agree, stepping stone is all he is.

He's really thick and she's an actress. I'm not planning on giving much head space to either of them.

I hope they live a happy life, but I won't be voluntarily subjecting myself to any of their whining or moral lecturing. Nope. No thanks.

@ChocolateSantaisthebestkind

Exactly *@donewithitalltodayandxmas*! He is a big cringey man baby.

Quite. I mean, you're 30-something, find your family toxic AF but then whinge about their not being your bills or giving your son more titles (and you keep all yours and your place in the succession of this toxic family). You bitch about privacy but have this massive wedding and court the press at every turn.

C'mon, how can you not see right through them both?

Haven't RTFT but my take on it was that Meghan came across better, it was her version and she put it across well, as a PP said interwoven with a few fabrications etc. What struck me through the whole interview though was how badly this interview reflected on Harry and he came off looking completely unsupportive and like a petulant child. I would have liked Oprah to have questioned him about where was the support from him when Meghan joined the royal family, where was he when she was feeling she couldn't cope mentally. I felt the questioning of him did take a slightly different tone by Oprah particularly when he was questioned about his wealth and being trapped but instead of just saying yes I felt trapped and leaving it there, he decided to throw both PC and PW under the bus by saying that they are too and that he feels sorry for them. I would not have liked someone speaking on my behalf like that to a global audience.

The whole 2 hours was all about how wronged they have been with zero acknowledgement that maybe they could have addressed some things differently themselves. If this interview is an example of how they think it is best to address things then you can bet your life there are other things that they haven't handled well in this whole sorry saga. Throwing your family under the bus in such a public way is never a good idea.

@Freddiefox

For the most part yes.

I think there is often 2 sides to a story, each believing theirs is the truth.

For example. Kate and Meghan crying, it’s more then possible that both cried, and one didn’t know the other had cried. So both stories are true.

I haven’t seen the interview, but I believe this is true for most of life’s falling outs and conflicts.

It’s almost impossible to sort a single ‘truth’ from most complicated situations.

It's one thing to trash your in-laws, but Harry saying those things about his own family? He sounded petulant and spoiled.

What happened to Michele Obama's "when they go low you go high"?

They never really explained how she came back from the brink of suicide (if she asked for help, and was refused, and he was too ashamed to ask) The evening where she was afraid to be left alone with suicidal thoughts was when she was heavily pregnant. Would no one (even Harry) not be worried enough about her unborn child to seek help?

I completely believe that they both did have MH problems (and unsurprisingly so how they were treated by the press, and seemingly their own family) but Harry has talked about having therapy in the past, why would he not use his contacts to get help for his wife. (And himself)

I think it went,

They wouldn't give my son a title (slight inkling of sounding like a dick)

And

They said we wouldn't have security (yep bells ringing, total dick)

Jesus, I'll have to pull something big out...........

I expected her to then say something like I'm a real life Disney princess and a wicked sea witch stole my voice (oh she did!!)

@callmeadoctor

Interesting point in the mail:

"When is somebody going to air all Meghan's secrets and why have so many been hushed up? Her first marriage to Joseph Goldman-Guliano the lawyer for example that ended in an annulment after his mother paid her off with a substantial sum due to realising she was totally unsuitable for her son. Her mother abandoning her for a life of crime and serving six years for money fraud and d rugs. Her uncle the diplomat who pulled a lot of strings to wangle her an internship that she would never have managed on her own merit. And she was in a civil relationship with a chef when she met Harry, who she just walked out on. And why does she snub all family members either her own or Harry's but prefers celebrities. The wedding a prime example. Also, Doria's relative that mysteriously died so she inherited a house, and a hazing incident at Northwestern University that included supergluing students eyes shut and being suspended...interesting rumours."

They are just that though.. rumours. No evidence whatsoever.