So, do you believe the royal couples revelations made tonight?

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I did. felt more authentic than I've expected. You?

OK so back to before this interview and google it...Where does it tell you that yes in private family members curtesy to the Queen?

I'm British and never knew that, never read that anywhere.

Where does it say about the security only being if your titled Prince? Where is a clear definition on who gets a title? Even the media cannot tell you correctly, why because the Queen can make up a letter to allow it to happen likenahe did for George and Charlotte

Where on google does it tell you that you have over your passport etc to our aide or whoever and you never see it again?

Did you even know all of that yourself? Because I never did and no google doesn't have that information either.

There is no massive bible you csn go google on how to be the perfect royal

Harry knows all this, it was his responsibility to tell her all this detail - I don’t understand why she’s blaming anyone else and he doesn’t realise that if she didn’t know these weird quirks of his family it was because he didn’t tell her

Prince Harry should have prepped her for the role and she should have done some research. His mother was one of the most famous women in the world she would have been a good case study. Her story was well documented over the years. That’s why I don’t buy the fact she had no clue what to expect, shes seemingly is an intelligent woman. This was always her plan. She acted throughout the whole interview. Let’s hope her love for Harry is real and not an act . The serious allegations about the alleged racism need to be investigated and dealt with if found to be true, regardless of the seniority of the person in question.

It is possible.

@LawnFever I knew about curtsey in private - no idea where I first heard, but I knew

I had no idea that you had to curtsy to the Queen in private

I don’t understand why people are so anti Megan and Harry. They have obviously had a terrible time with the press. People should just leave it be. It’s none of anyone’s business how they lead their lives. I imagine Harry is massively scarred and therefore hyper-sensitive about what happened to his mother and probably panicked at seeing history potentially repeating itself in some way. Yes they are privileged but that doesn’t stop them feeling or hurting or having MH issues. No one here can understand what it’s like to be in that position. Lots of bitter, nasty people passing comment.

It’s OK for Meghan to sell her story but not her dad? Would anyone be interested if she hadn’t married a Royal.

I can imagine the older generations of Royals would have taken a few deep breaths about her at the start - underlying racism, maybe. But they also work with people of all backgrounds and as she is/was so personable must have adapted quickly.

I think the real suspicion is she is a gold digger. She wanted a rich husband and celebrity and she got it. I can’t imagine dowdy, fusty palaces and the British weather are her style. She wanted the villa and the pool and now she has it all and a way of milking it for the rest of her life. Maybe Harry did want out and she was her ticket. But they do both seem very isolated now from family. Who are Harry’s friends now and what does he do apart from interviews? He was so close to his brother and that relationship is destroyed.

Lots of things were not true. He said he wasn’t allowed to ride a bike as a kid. But he did and there are pictures.

I don't believe them, no.

Harry has really gone down in my estimation. He is obviously trying to bring his brother down.

The whole thing is contrived. A house of cards.

I think her father is coming across well. I don't think he has been drinking. He was thrown to the wolves IMO.

I believe them overall, but of course it's biased from their side with some overegging. Just like when I bitch about the ILs to my friends .

@Lampzade

I had no idea that you had to curtsy to the Queen in private

But if you were marrying someone and their gran expected you to courtesy to her, your partner didn’t tell you and it all kicked off, then despite the concept of courtesying being bonkers it’s the person you’re marrying’s fault for not giving you the heads up

Why didn’t Harry tell her all this information?

She said they got married in the garden 3 days before?? You can only get married in licensed venues can’t you? And I thought they had to have a structure with a roof? Something like that would be easy to prove or disprove.

@Lampzade

I had no idea that you had to curtsy to the Queen in private

I only know from the crown! Had no idea before that. Why would you!

I believe them. Our perception of the royal family is what they want us to see. I can imagine behind the scenes it's not a very nice environment to be in.

It did make me happy when they said the queen had been nothing but lovely.

It seems to be the staff, the people who schmooze the papers etc that are the bastards here.

If Megan was suicidal and the palace denied her mental health treatment because it would look bad then that is an absolute scandal

I do believe that Harry should have prepared her for the role. However, one would have thought that a senior female royal would have been assigned to Meghan to assist her .
The royal family made many mistakes

UsedUpUsername

Yep she treated her family like they were white trash!!

And now she is treating Harry’s family (the family she never had!! Harry’s own words) like trash!!

They have really burnt they boats!!

But I don’t think we need to worry about them and there pots of money sitting in a mansion in the Sunny California!!

Did you see the way she burst out laughing at the end as the cameras panned away. Like it was all one big joke.

I totally believe they believe it. Whether it’s totally the truth or not we’ll probably never know. The racist thing about the baby was probably true, although they couldn’t even get the details of that straight. She said it was when she was pregnant, he said it was right at the beginning.

I don’t believe for a second, that with all their mental health contacts, they couldn’t have got support for Megan in her mental health difficulties. Terrible for anyone to go through that.

If she was ill prepared that was totally down to Harry and their rush to get married. I bet he didn’t warn her properly what a shit show it was going to be because he didn’t want to put her off marrying him.

As for not researching the royal family, not really knowing about them, etc, she must think we’re stupid.

There was actually very little detail in there and a lot of wholly padding out. Even the Kate thing, she couldn’t quite just come out and say. On the whole I think they should hand the titles back and stop now trading off their royal connections, which they won’t do, because without them they are nothing.

Just on a side note, who knew Charles had balls.

Also Diana died because she was driven by a drunk. She was miserable because her husband was having an affair and was in love with the other woman from the start. She was a very naive 19-year-old and was deceived. Meghan’s situation is very different. She’s a smart cookie.

I don’t understand all of this “poor Harry” rhetoric. Do people honestly believe that he, with a lifetime of privilege and swathes of people around him whose primary role is to protect the monarchy has somehow been duped. If at any point he felt out of his depth he would have been protected.
Also his family will always put the monarchy first. It’s a business. The Queen has done it before and she’ll do it again. And they said they were still in touch with the Queen!

Just the idea that a “B list actress” (has she been promoted from C list?) is the one with the power is absolutely laughable.

@TorringtonDean

It’s OK for Meghan to sell her story but not her dad? Would anyone be interested if she hadn’t married a Royal.

I can imagine the older generations of Royals would have taken a few deep breaths about her at the start - underlying racism, maybe. But they also work with people of all backgrounds and as she is/was so personable must have adapted quickly.

I think the real suspicion is she is a gold digger. She wanted a rich husband and celebrity and she got it. I can’t imagine dowdy, fusty palaces and the British weather are her style. She wanted the villa and the pool and now she has it all and a way of milking it for the rest of her life. Maybe Harry did want out and she was her ticket. But they do both seem very isolated now from family. Who are Harry’s friends now and what does he do apart from interviews? He was so close to his brother and that relationship is destroyed.

Lots of things were not true. He said he wasn’t allowed to ride a bike as a kid. But he did and there are pictures.

A self made millionaire is a gold digger. Ok

Harry knows all this, it was his responsibility to tell her all this detail - I don’t understand why she’s blaming anyone else and he doesn’t realise that if she didn’t know these weird quirks of his family it was because he didn’t tell her

Demanding your grandchild's GF to curtsy says quite a bit about the Queen, though Harry should have told her, perhaps he was ashamed?

They should have kept security because the risk threat to them both hasn't lessened, the Queen looks like particularly spiteful.

However anything that helps bring an end to the RF is ok by me.

@BrieAndChilli It would be a legal and ecclesiastical impossibility for the archbishop of Canterbury to have "married" them in their back garden three days before - they would have practiced the vows and he may have blessed them, a joke may have been made that "this is our real wedding!" but they were catagorically not married before the windsor service.

I think there is some truth in it yes. I don’t particularly warm to Meghan, but I think it’s not secret that the RF are very dis functional and toxic and you couldn’t pay me to marry into them.

@Anjo2011

Prince Harry should have prepped her for the role and she should have done some research. His mother was one of the most famous women in the world she would have been a good case study. Her story was well documented over the years. That’s why I don’t buy the fact she had no clue what to expect, shes seemingly is an intelligent woman. This was always her plan. She acted throughout the whole interview. Let’s hope her love for Harry is real and not an act . The serious allegations about the alleged racism need to be investigated and dealt with if found to be true, regardless of the seniority of the person in question.

Couldn’t agree more. Harry knows more than anyone that living within the royal family is about protocol and traditions. Like it or not that is the life. He should have made sure Meghan knew this and what it involved. I get the impression she thought she would walk in and be the fairytale princess. She quickly realised it wasn’t the life she thought it would be. They walked away which is their choice but don’t now complain that you have been cut off.

I had no idea that you had to curtsy to the Queen in private

You mightn’t but hard to believe Harry didn’t know after all those years. I’m betting he did. It’s really odd that he didn’t mention this to Meghan before she met granny. So either he didn’t mention it - in which case, why she’s not angry with him about it is odd. Or, he did and she didn’t want to tow the line. Or, he didn’t mention it because he thought he was so special that, while the rule applied to absolutely everyone else, granny would let his partner off the hook and have a tinkly laugh with her instead. None of those possibilities paint either of them in a good light.

Yeah I just can’t see them as victims

Poor Harry, having his money cut off from granny at age 36, it’s not fair!

Would love to see this as an AIBU:

Got married and DW wanted to work for the family company. She did not want to do any work, but still wanted the title of Marketing Director. The CEO (my gran) said no. So we emigrated. We think it’s so unfair we can’t be Marketing Director anymore and it’s clearly just racist of gran. We want the job title. We want the money. We are above doing the actual work as it’s actually really boring and hard work . AIBU to think that we should still be allowed to call ourselves directors, and get the salary? It’s racist if they won’t.