So, do you believe the royal couples revelations made tonight?

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I did. felt more authentic than I've expected. You?

Would that ‘friend’ even have wanted to interview Harry and Meghan if Harry wasn’t who he is.

Harry is now the priority of the American networks (and Apple was referenced by Oprah in the interview).

There’s only one winner here.

*property

Poor little billionaires.

I don’t doubt what they say, but it’s a struggle to feel all that sorry for them.

So the palace didn’t stump up for therapy. Even Charles and Diana just went off and organised their own.

And they have to pay for their own security detail?

I find their whining and self-pitying so out of touch. People in their home country are out of jobs, out of homes, unable to feed their families, sick, dying.

But we’re all supposed to feel sorry for them?

It's time for a British republic.

Why would they lie about getting married 3 days before? Why would they disclose this if not true?
If anything it wouldn't do them any favours as the public would get mad about paying for their 2nd unnecessary wedding?

The thing I don't get is why Meghan thought it was a big deal having to curtesy to the queen in private and she didn't know

Up until watching this I really disliked them both, I've now changed my mind.

They made a really good point about safety, the fact that the royal family cut them off financially makes sense to a point but he can't change his heritage - for that, he needs the security he's always had. The situation might have changed but the risk hasn't.

It seems like the casual racism and 'I'm not racist but...' cards have been played and they're not standing for it. Good for them!

And those saying that Harry was enjoying his lifestyle and questioning how he could have felt 'trapped' need to realise that being trapped isn't just for people with no money and poor prospects. What was he supposed to do? He didn't know any better as a youngster, then he didn't have anyone to help him change things, he's done an amazing job of forging his own way but who has he had to truly guide him towards the life he actually wanted?

He's older now; he's tried to change his life so that he isn't living that way anymore. Rather than allowing him the freedom, the royal family have cut him off. Of course they're cashing in on what they can, they need the money. At this point he can't do right for doing wrong,

I don't particularly like Meghan Markle, I think she's dramatic and has dramatised an already difficult situation. But she had a point, the press were quick to paint her as the villain, she's had to bring up the childish 'who made who cry' situation so that she can defend herself.

Good luck to them, Diana knew that this situation was right around the corner and they have been right to fear what the future held had they stayed. At least this way they can respond to the press rather than having to sit there and watch them assassinate their choices, unable to say anything.

I think the royal press are basically writing fan fiction to create a narrative, after all no-one is going to be buying papers if it's January, Kate and Meghan are pals, February, still friendly, March, yep, same again. Meghan's story arc was very similar to Fergie's, oh look, a new girl on the scene, isn't she a breath of fresh air! Oh wait, she's a bit too fresh actually, and look at all this dirt we've raked up from her past. She and Kate are great friends, nope, they've had a fight. Why did the argument with Kate come out months later? Because it wouldn't have sat right in the middle of their gushing multi-page coverage of the wedding.

I do think she was treated poorly by the royal family but like others I found things in the interview odd. They both seemed really fixated on the removal of their security, it kept coming up over and over again, almost as if it was masking something else. And the chickens! Did no one else whisper 'Marie Antoinette' when they came on?

She can't just say "I'm going to a baby shower at the Langham, send the car round". There's more to it.

She was free to go jetting off to the US. She could have gone there, then diverted to whatever she wanted really, they would not have had remit on what she did there, she would have called the shots. Pretty much like when they left to go on their Canadian holiday. Then didn’t return.

@TheBugHouse

I read that the conversation about the colour of a babies skin( not even conceived at the time) was just a general chat like I wonder if he will have my nose or yours, my heir or yours, my skin shade or yours ? That all new parents have, I think this has just been blown out of context ?

@TheBugHouse I'm pretty sure both Harry (who knows his own family) and Meghan would know the 'context' and if it was anything like you suggest, it wouldn't be an issue. But it clearly wasn't, and is.

As to OP's question, yes, I do believe it. Their emotion was genuine. I question the mentality of anyone who didn't believe it, and what their agenda is. They came across as both truthful and sincere.

@23PissOffAvenueWF

Poor little billionaires.

I don’t doubt what they say, but it’s a struggle to feel all that sorry for them.

So the palace didn’t stump up for therapy. Even Charles and Diana just went off and organised their own.

And they have to pay for their own security detail?

I find their whining and self-pitying so out of touch. People in their home country are out of jobs, out of homes, unable to feed their families, sick, dying.

But we’re all supposed to feel sorry for them?

Absolutely this. It’s like when they were literally surrounded by starving dying children and going on about how hard their lives were because “nobody had asked if she was okay”

I also think most of their claims will be exaggerated or H&M’s twisted version of the truth. We haven’t, and won’t ever because they’re too dignified, hear the other side.

@TheBugHouse

I thought Charles had footed the security Bill for quite a long time too? And Aldi there is no issue about the titles as Archie isn’t in line to the throne so it’s nothing about race. And Megan knew that anyway!

@TheBugHouse Neither are William's kids (not immediately) yet they have titles. And, Archie would get a title when Charles becomes King, but the RF wanted to change the rules so even after Charles, he doesn't get a title.

It is entirely about race. That much, is more than obvious.

@Cokie3

As to OP's question, yes, I do believe it. Their emotion was genuine. I question the mentality of anyone who didn't believe it, and what their agenda is. They came across as both truthful and sincere.

I have no trouble believing them.

I just find their out-of-touch whinging, when vast swathes of people are actually struggling, beyond unedifying.

It’s like when they were literally surrounded by starving dying children and going on about how hard their lives were because “nobody had asked if she was okay”

Yes, completely. The lack of self-awareness is so embarrassing.

@Jonnywishbone

No, it's embellished and we already know some of it is incorrect and has been disproven.

Such as what, @Jonnywishbone ? To my knowledge nothing they've said has been disproven. So where is your evidence?

When she was first introduced as Harry's gf and then got engaged, the press were concentrating on her being divorced (not a virgin bride) and her family coming out left, right and centre making her look like a lying trashy bride, so it was like a field day for the press to fill their newspapers with all these stories. Come on, her sister wrote a book about her calling her out on her lies and then the estranged father and his letter and then the wedding invites only including her mother but no one else from her mother's family and her new found 'high profile' celebrity friends that she never knew before meeting Harry was a perfect picnic for the tabloids. I didn't watch the whole interview but did she comment on these because to me it seems these stories gave her a hard time more than the Royal family itself.

I'm not saying she wasn't subjected to racism but why did they allow her as a bride into the institution in the first place if they were racist? I'm not white British but my husband is. A lot of my in laws and even friends were guessing if my unborn baby would have dark features like me or lighter features (blonde blue eyes) from my husband. At the moment they are talking about whether my toddler would be tall and lean like my husband or short like me lol. I think some of the stuff she mentioned is really really strong accusations and could it be that she is taking it out of context and some one so obsessed with Diana is trying to take some of her story to fit her narrative? I'm only guessing but I'm not convinced.

It’s a shame that some of it must be untrue such as not understanding why Archie wouldn’t be a prince or have protection. The fact they have implied this was due to racism when in fact its a rule that has been in place for years & years and would be the same for any of that generation other than Williams children to me muddies the waters around what is and isn’t true.
I believe that she has really suffered with her mental health but I don’t understand why Harry couldn’t find her help without the HR department.
They have obviously been through an awful time and the media and have behaved appaulingly towards her. No one should be treated like that regardless of who they are or what ‘they sign up for’. I can’t blame Harry for taking his family away from that, to protect his loved ones especially as the media don’t seem to have learnt any lessons from his mothers death.
Its just a shame that they were in a position where they felt they had to be so public to stand up for themselves.
I think its true that there is always 3 sides to any situation, both parties perspective and the truth somewhere inbetween.
I find it very sad that the media aren’t going to change because a percentage of people feed off its negativity, they are giving people exactly what sells their paper. Then you have the likes of Piers Morgan constantly attacking Megan when his ethics when working for newspapers were appauling. When it comes down to it what has Megan actually done thats so bad, has she hacked peoples phones, faked pictures, done anything criminal or deliberately unkind to anyone?

@Number3BigCupOfTea

Yeh, they told their truth and I believe them that they felt unsupported, but Meghan lacked resilience and Harry didn't tell Meghan that every woman that marries in to royal gets dragged by the media, and they both lacked judgement. She said she had a very clear sense of herself before she met Harry but then cracked up over newspaper headlines and the men in grey suits being weird.

But I do think now they did the right thing leaving and good luck to them, they have a lovely house and life now.

This I do not understand - why is it ok to have the women who marry into that family "dragged" by the media? Dragged is one way of looking at it . You could also say they are utterly humiliated, shamed and degraded. How can we fret so much about bullying and public tone on one hand and turn a blind eye to that on the other? I have not heard or seen one media outlet discuss their own participation in this.

Think that was a reference to the wedding rehearsal and blessing?

End of the day, they achieved what they set out to do. Set the cat amongst the pigeons and get us all talking about it 🤷‍♀️

I believe them. Also noticed how Harry got Charles's good looks and William got his ugly side.

@ExhaustedFlamingo

No.

There are lies somewhere about the so-called private wedding. You can’t have it in a private location and you can’t have it without witnesses. You also can’t remarry the same person, only have a blessing/confirmation which has to be handled differently. The wedding register would also have to bear the true date.

She also misled Oprah over the titles, claiming racism was the reason for it, which is a blatant lie.

Based on two things which can be objectively checked, and both are found to be either lies or wild exaggerations of the truth, I believe it casts genuine doubt over the truthfulness of the rest of the interview.

I believe there are scraps of truth but it’s largely all been embellished for their role as perpetual victims.

Also, aside from that, I think their claims of wanting to build bridges are a lie. You don’t do a hatchet job on your family if this is the case. Harry says his family are deeply scared of tabloid press - so he does this? Nice.

Is it not entirely possible that, for her, the thing they did in the back garden was an intimate quiet thing and is the moment in which she "married" him. Then they had the spectacle?

As for the "She also misled Oprah over the titles, claiming racism was the reason for it, which is a blatant lie" - you cannot for a second say that was a BLATANT lie asyou were not there and have NO CLUE about that conversation.

@faithfulbird20

I believe them. Also noticed how Harry got Charles's good looks and William got his ugly side.

Not really.

Why didn’t she invite anyone from her mother’s family?

Charles gave her away to his own son.

I’ve honestly never seen a person more welcomed by that family. And I am a republican.

My god, people are struggling to keep their heads above water and this is what they have to complain about.

They said they chose for Archie not to be an Earl because they wanted him to live life as normally as possible...he could be prince when Charles becomes king. there is so very little context in this interview.

Royalty and celebrity aren’t the same. I think there are 8 ‘working’ royals. Slimmed down because the tax payer funds them and don’t want to fund those who take the privilege and do FA.

If they hate the institution, walk away with the blessing they had from the Queen. The performance was toe curling

@Chloemol

No, some has already been disproved. They knew when they asked to step back they wouldn’t get any money, and at 36 why should his father pay when they have millions between them. Meghan had plenty of help when she started, and was given opportunities Kate wasn’t when she was engaged to William (eg staying at Sandringham etc). I think the RF had learnt from Diana, but where not going to change protocols because Meghan didn’t like them. It’s sad that they feel the need to discuss everything like this, they know that there are two sides to every story, but the RF won’t be able to put their side out there

It’s just so sad they are prepared to rip the family apart, with Meghan already having done that to her own family

@Chloemol What exactly has been disproven? Nothing at all has been disproven so what are you referring to.

And the victim-blaming is unbelievable. Meghan has been a victim of her family's abuse of her, and you are saying she (rather than they) is the one who 'tore her own family apart'? Seriously? Where do you get off saying such an abhorrent thing?