A positive thread on Harry and Meghan (aka Thread 6)

[Mummy195]

@rousette

I'm sure you won't mind that your excellent link gets 'pinned'.

Some of the things MM did before marrying H.

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1282990766097301504.html

Wow dido I would love to hear more about that role. Sorry if it sounds nosy!

I hope someone got her stories on paper. How interesting.

That would make a great Catherine Cookson style memoir @didofido. You should get her to write it and publish as a kindle book.

Yes, it seems you can access ET. I'm not sure that's a good thing or a bad thing!

www.etonline.com/media/videos/how-meghan-markle-plans-to-celebrate-her-39th-birthday-150571

Trip to Oprah's for her birthday, apparently.

Video contains the sentence: "It's pure speculation..."

Re Finding Freedom: "Even Oprah wasn't able to get a copy of this book."

It's all the same bollocks you would get in the Express, just with a more positive steer.

I just had to look up TMZ, never heard of it
It’s celebrity and entertainment news (according to the website)
Are we now following stories and reports there about the British Royal family
Goodness me

Same with ET, entertainment tonight
Oh dear

TMZ get media / celebrity stories early. IIRC they broke the news of Michael Jackson's death, possibly from picking it up from police radio.

@Nanasueathome

Same with ET, entertainment tonight Oh dear

I was curious Nana because many of the US media sites are blocked in the UK (happened after GDPR rolled out.)

Most of it seems to be US based people I've never heard of.

Very odd.

I know its a bit early but what is happening with the next thread?
Can I suggest a title like.
A thread about H&M every one welcome.

OVienna: It was just what servants did, I think.
My father was valet to the Lady's brother. He had to iron The Times and stitch it along the spine before taking to His Lordship. Wouldn't want it to fall apart, would we? Might make Himself cross.

ButteryPuffin: Alas, she is no longer with us.

Ah @didofido

@Samcro that sounds like a good title to me.

I don't think the OP is in the UK but when I asked previously (because it could explain some of their idiosyncratic views of the RF and of British history, culture and our media) they declined to answer.

It's fine for Meghan to feel more comfortable with the US media because she is accustomed to it and has contacts within in. But it's beyond silly for posters to pretend the US media are less intrusive than the UK. You can have your own opinions but not your own facts.

I disagreed with the earlier MN thread about a woman harassing her friend to take her DCs out during Covid and I disagree with posters arguing it will damage Archie that he has spent time playing with family in a massive garden rather than going out during a pandemic. No-one here knows Archie's medical history or that of H&M or Doria. There could be lots of valid reasons for shielding.

[quote OVienna]@WurraBurra I was thinking exactly the same. Discussion of the TMZ video and ET- which I guess is Entertainment Tonight. I didn't even know you could access 'ET' in the UK. I have never tried, to be fair, That is quite forensic knowledge of the nuances of royal media coverage particularly for non UK based sites.[/quote]
It took me a while to work out what BM was, as I'm used to the Royal Family being referred to as RF.

Too many acronyms!

@MeghanSussex

Harry is still in the line of succession, that was made crystal clear in the statement when Harry and Meghan said that the Queen doesn't have authority over the word Royal. It was emphasised that Harry and Archie are still 6th and 7th in the line of succession.

Yes, of course, that's why I said "direct line of succession" rather than just "line of succession". Sixth in line is on the outer borders of constitutionally important. If William and Catherine were to have just one more child, Harry wouldn't even have required the monarch's permission to marry. He would be constitutionally irrelevant.

Just as well that William and Catherine are not as small-minded as me!

@Samcro, good title suggestion!

@MeghanSussex

H&M were senior members of the RF.

Thank you for the second extract, which confirms what I said. According to that, Harry no longer meets the definition of senior Royal, by his own volition.

Well my original post was about them staying on as Senior Royals in the UK. I think it was clear that I meant, they had to choose to stay on within the RF and endure the hatred or they could move somewhere else.

@didofido I have a million questions as I am fascinated by social history and am also very nosy. But I will hold back!

[quote OVienna]@WurraBurra I was thinking exactly the same. Discussion of the TMZ video and ET- which I guess is Entertainment Tonight. I didn't even know you could access 'ET' in the UK. I have never tried, to be fair, That is quite forensic knowledge of the nuances of royal media coverage particularly for non UK based sites.[/quote]
I am in the UK, that is how I know that the rags influence goes as far as daytime TV such as Jeremy Vine, Loose Women, Lorraine etc.
I did not answer the poster as I was not comfortable with the xenophobic undertones of wanting to know who I am, not all Brits are negative. The thread is not about me anyway.

ET, TMZ coverage is found freely on youtube. It is less negative than the UK that is for sure, but I would not say it's all fully positive.

We already had a discussion about BM, because I could not use BP on a royal thread as it also stands for Buckingham Palace. And I did not want to say Press either as that encompasses nationwide press.

Ppl on here have said they come from other countries, what is this about exactly?

Well my original post was about them staying on as Senior Royals in the UK. I think it was clear that I meant, they had to choose to stay on within the RF and endure the hatred or they could move somewhere else.

It wasn't clear to me but thank you for clarifying that now.

I do think 'hatred' is a very strong word to express a very strong emotion and it seems - in my view - to be used far more widely than such an extreme emotion warrants. It is not, for example, a synonym for 'criticism' and I would be loath to confuse the two.

Harry and Meghan have attracted both admiration and criticism but as far as I am aware, expressions of outright hatred have been rare. That's why I can't agree with your view that their choice was to decamp or stay here and "endure the hatred". Wasn't it about them wanting to be independent and earn their own money and live their own lives? That's what they said, anyway.

It took me a while to work out what BM was, as I'm used to the Royal Family being referred to as RF.

So does it stand for British Media then?

TMZ is vile. I would never quote it, nor Perez Hilton, as a reputable source.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/columnists/tim-walker/the-couch-surfer-together-tmz-and-perez-hilton-are-a-microcosm-of-the-modern-media-1732588.html%3famp

Perez Hilton – hypocrite, egotist and all-round "douchebag"

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@Samcro I like your suggestion, thank you 🙏

So, TMZ is less negative than UK media but not all fully positive?
What sort of statement is that?

I didn't mention 'BM', another poster did.

I found the analysis of individual media stories for sites which are not mainstream UK to be exactly, as I put it, forensic and beyond what many observers might do. You may have a particular interest in this couple or in media generally that means you like to do more research.

It also not xenophobic to wonder about why that might be.