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A positive thread on Harry and Meghan (aka Thread 6)

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Mummy195 · 28/07/2020 11:58

@rousette

I'm sure you won't mind that your excellent link gets 'pinned'.

Some of the things MM did before marrying H.

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1282990766097301504.html

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ButteryPuffin · 01/08/2020 11:37

That story says Meghan's patronage of the NT will be 'business as usual' - has it been? Of course the central issue here is that business for the NT (and everyone) has been far from 'business as usual'. But my point, now and when I've raised this before, is that it's a shame she hasn't issued any video or message of support for them, when she has done this for other organisations that she isn't the official patron of. If she intends to continue supporting 'her' organisations, as the Sussexes said they would, then it's disappointing.

@blurpityblurp Can you say any more about this?

ButteryPuffin · 01/08/2020 11:40

Also, the story @Mummy195 posted the screenshot of dates from them being in Canada. That's what was said then. Things have moved on somewhat and views may have changed!

ButteryPuffin · 01/08/2020 11:41

if they were papped walking about with him...they would be judged for that. they really can't win.

I don't think they would. But we'll have to agree to disagree on that!

Serenster · 01/08/2020 11:42

Using a baby as a stick to beat MM with is quite low tbh.

To be fair Mummy195, you do keep reminding us that this is a parenting site, and parents' decision to keep their toddler hidden away from all external interaction for a lengthy period of time would quite likely get responses no matter who who the parent doing it was.

TofinoSurf · 01/08/2020 11:43

if they were papped walking about with him...they would be judged for that. they really can't win.

I don't agree. Unless it breached their local COVID restrictions of course, but then I would judge anyone breaching them.

mrscampbellblackagain · 01/08/2020 11:51

There was a very long thread on here a week or so ago about a woman who was very worried that her friend and her children hadn't left their house/garden since before lockdown. So not just royals who get concern over that.

I guess though it isn't like being in the UK where H&M could have decamped to Balmoral and had lots of space and very little press intrusion.

StartupRepair · 01/08/2020 12:03

They could have been in Norfolk or Scotland or Windsor Great Park. No paparazzi. Lots of free space for Archie to play.

TheChristmasPrincess · 01/08/2020 12:06

Has there been any pap snaps of the Cambridge children since lockdown? I know W&K have released a lot of photos of them for birthdays and Father’s Day recently.

Samcro · 01/08/2020 12:07

@ButteryPuffin

if they were papped walking about with him...they would be judged for that. they really can't win.

I don't think they would. But we'll have to agree to disagree on that!

oh please lol. remember when M was papped with him in a sling? that went well for her.
Mummy195 · 01/08/2020 12:08

She was with the NT on her last trip here, so I don't see them rushing her for talks. We don't know, maybe they will be in contact soon. In one of the zoom calls from KM, I remember the head of the patronage saying to her they have not seen her in years (was it 9rs or something?).

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myrtleWilson · 01/08/2020 12:10

samcro - when you say they'd be judged if they were papped with Archie - do you mean judged on MN or more widely? There have been various celebrities papped out with children in LA during the pandemic and I've not been aware that they have been judged for doing so, presumably they are within guidelines.

That said, am not condoning papping children in any way and of course MM and PH will have Archie's welfare uppermost in their minds.

Re the Mail & National Theatre - the piece is written in a weasely/subtle way depending on your standpoint. It doesn't say a NT insider was wondering why they have MM as a patron. It does say a theatre insider was wondering why have MM as a patron.

The theatre insider could be a current NT insider (but blurpity is clear this is not the case), the theatre insider could be someone with a previous connection to the NT (Trevor Nunn is quoted as concerned about the NT future [but doesn't mention MM] and he was previously artistic director at the NT), or the theatre insider could be the person in charge of the ice-cream stall at the Little Theatre in Chester.

I have no idea about the credentials of the guy who wrote it.

Roussette · 01/08/2020 12:17

Honestly if this was a friend I would be staging an intervention

Honestly?! Shock Because he's been in a mahoosive house and grounds with his mum, dad and M? If you were my friend I'd be telling you to MYOB! It's not a tiny house with loads of children who need to be out and mixing. He's 15 months old and no doubt quite happy.

I don't blame them one little bit. And I bet they've had friends coming to see them, possible with little ones, you don't have to go out for a toddler to have interaction, especially with a pandemic on.

Besides which she'd get a lot of stick for it if they did go out whilst covid is around, look what happened with the baby sling when she took him out. The thread on here was horrendous.

Good point on Balmoral. If they were here, it wouldn't be much difference.

Roussette · 01/08/2020 12:18

That should read Mum, Dad and GM

mrscampbellblackagain · 01/08/2020 12:21

I thought the sling criticism was on how the baby was in the sling. I have been on mn long enough to know people are fanatical about the correct way to baby wear Wink

Roussette · 01/08/2020 12:25

It was that which then led on to other stuff, yes.

TheChristmasPrincess · 01/08/2020 12:28

@Roussette

Honestly if this was a friend I would be staging an intervention

Honestly?! Shock Because he's been in a mahoosive house and grounds with his mum, dad and M? If you were my friend I'd be telling you to MYOB! It's not a tiny house with loads of children who need to be out and mixing. He's 15 months old and no doubt quite happy.

I don't blame them one little bit. And I bet they've had friends coming to see them, possible with little ones, you don't have to go out for a toddler to have interaction, especially with a pandemic on.

Besides which she'd get a lot of stick for it if they did go out whilst covid is around, look what happened with the baby sling when she took him out. The thread on here was horrendous.

Good point on Balmoral. If they were here, it wouldn't be much difference.

Honestly!

Because it’s not about having a big house and garden. It’s about going out and exploring the world. As I stated in another post, they don’t need to go out to beaches or park and mingle. But even just going for a walk locally whilst walking the dog would be so beneficial for him. It gives him the opportunity to visually explore a new environment and show him theres more to the world than the house & grounds they live in. It’s just as much about cognitive development as well as social.

I’d be worried that they are so concerned about protecting his privacy that they are costing him his freedom.

Mummy195 · 01/08/2020 12:28

If she had been in Balmoral, the DM would have cooked up some story about how she upset the Queen somehow. lol

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Oldbutstillgotit · 01/08/2020 12:29

I read that W and K travelled by helicopter to their holiday ?

TheChristmasPrincess · 01/08/2020 12:30

I was under the impression people were criticising her for how she was carrying him in the sling rather than the fact that she was taking him outside.

TofinoSurf · 01/08/2020 12:37

Yes the criticism was about the use of the sling and also if the pap shots were arranged. Not about taking Archie out in public.

lifestooshort123 · 01/08/2020 12:39

Isolating him now in a pandemic, fine. Doing it when he's a bit older and it's safer to go out, not so fine. It will be hard for them in LA to achieve the balance - at Frogmore it would have been a doddle. Perhaps they have a list forming of pros and cons to living in LA but I think that's unlikely (not speculating, it's my opinion).

My0My · 01/08/2020 13:05

I think it’s reasonable to wonder about whether it’s a good idea to keep a toddler at home or try and do a bit more. I think Covid has caused problems but they have other options, especially with their security. She struggled with a sling earlier and he would probably appreciate the sea and sand. It’s all very secluded which probably isn’t great for any of them. We didn’t get loads of photos of the Cambridge children and still don’t. It’s a lot more controllable here.

ButteryPuffin · 01/08/2020 13:14

The 'wondering why the NT has Meghan as patron' point - that wasn't my point and I don't agree with it. She's been a professional actor and the distinctions between that and the theatre are snobby - of course it isn't exactly the same but she'll still have more understanding of it than most people. However, that's also not the main issue. Whether or not she has a deep personal interest, she agreed to become patron and she should see that through, as she said she would. She has found time since March to do videos for a number of other organisations so I would hope she could also fit in one for the NT that spoke to the particular troubles they are facing.

Mummy195 · 01/08/2020 13:23

I think they did weigh the pros and cons.

Either stay here, not get papped, but have lots of hideous lies published and get criticised on a daily basis for things that others with the RF are praised for. It would not have been easy for the too disappear as they have to do the charity work all the while being made a laughing stock - tarnishing their reputation so that maybe some charities may not really want to be involved with them.

Or, go away far from the BM, to a place where there are lots of ppl with high profiles and just disappear among them. Sure for the first few months the paps will try for pics, but LA laws mean kids must be blurred. And the novelty of papping them will eventually cool down, I mean how many times did we see Doria walk her dog, even the paps got tired of papping her in the end.

There was that time here in the UK when the story did rounds about them going to a pub. TMZ did their due diligence, like they did with the LA cctv footage. Archie's face is blurred on the pub phone video. What I noticed was that TMZ posted the videos without commentary. No snarky lies made up, what you saw was what you got. I think they prefer pics rather than a smear campaign, after all they don't fall out of clubs off their faces etc.

I also remember the ET reporter saying that the way to get around LA is long established because there have been so many famous ppl there who know how to go about without being seen if they try. He said there are back ways to LAX etc. he figures that is why no one knew H&M were in LA for ages.

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SunbathingDragon · 01/08/2020 13:34

So everyone now knows that Archie has not had visitors?

I don’t think that’s true; it’s just been confirmed that Archie hasn’t left the house. It’s quite possible he has had lots of similar aged interaction and fun whilst staying in the house/grounds.

DC4 is the same age as Archie. He has seen one child the same age as him since the start of the year but goes out for daily walks, plays in the garden and has older siblings. It works well for him. Hopefully Archie’s lifestyle is working well for him.

I’ve flown to the Isles of Sicily. Much better than the boat which is notorious for causing motion sickness and even if you don’t suffer, there is bound to be at least one vomiting passenger on there.