More News on Harry and Meghan

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Two little bits of news I read today. First the bells won't ring out at Westminster Abbey for Meghans birthday next month and she'll be devastated. No I don't think she'll even expect them to ring. And I had to smile at Bogart the dog was left behind in Canada because it didn't take to Harry. What else could she do. Hardly leave Harry behind. And it would have been a worry with a baby in the house too. She did the right thing here.

I think the money was just resting in the Travelyst account Father Ted style.

I think I read they would want to launch it with a bit of razz matazz with clooneys, Obamas, Clintons and other global type people like that present to get it off to a good start. I can see the thinking behind that. Virtual launch not the same thing

Thank you @Roussette. I think Meghan has done wonders for Harry in making him be more respectful towards animals. Having seen things Harry did, even when young, makes me think he is not a natural animal lover. The polo incidents, the normal hunting and the trophy hunting. However young you are, if you are a true animal lover, then you don’t do these things. I do think Meghan is an animal lover which I really like, and I liked it when she didn’t participate in the Boxing Day hunt and was looking forward to see more of this impact in the royal family. At least Harry seems to have taken it onboard which is great.
With regards to an appropriate person to head up Travelyst, there are no perfect people and the head/ face of such an organisation doesn’t have to be perfect. However he or she do need to have the passion, knowledge and a compelling personality. For me someone like Steve Backshall would tick the boxes

Travalyst was registered as a private company in April this year.

I think someone posted that it's a company limited by guarantee. That's a suitable form for a charity, assuming the aims are charitable. As long as the right safeguards are in place it could still all work out fine.

I think the money was just resting in the Travelyst account Father Ted style.

Really need a "like" button!

@TofinoSurf

I actually don't understand why they haven't launched Archewell now if it's ready to go. I know back in April it wasn't appropriate at such a peak in the pandemic, but if it's a non-profit organisation to help people and relevant causes then what's the delay? They have reportedly said it's delayed as the time isn't right and to focus on BLM and the impact of COVID but what are they actually doing for those causes apart from the odd speech? Why can't they use Archewell for that focus?

Therefore I actually don't think Archewell is ready. I think there is some sort of technicality such as the reported instagram account issue or trademark issues. No idea what but I just don't believe it's COVID/BLM holding it up. I think it's a convenient excuse. I just don't know why they can't launch it now if it's truly meant to help people and other causes, and not themselves.

I wonder whether Archewell is just a distraction and not really what they are planning on putting their energies in but just something to take the heat off what else they may have planned - I only have this theory based on the unbelievable mess made of registering it which I don’t believe was accidental.

This was shared on another platform but gives further explanation about limited by guarantee. It seems you can be non-profit but not registered as a charity so don't have to comply with charity regulation. So they have more freedom and flexibility on how its run and where funds go I presume.

Travalyst is not currently registered with the charity commission like Sussex Royal and Royal Foundation are.

^Non-profit organisations that are not charities
A non-profit organisation that is not a charity cannot claim the beneficial tax treatment associated with charitable status, but has greater freedom and flexibility in not having to comply with charity law. Such organisations include:
Non-charitable social enterprises (businesses with social as well as commercial objectives).


Community interest companies (CICs) which benefit a particular community and whose profits are reinvested in the CIC for this purpose.


Non-governmental organisations which campaign for specific changes in UK law.


Community benefit societies.


Non-charitable housing associations.


Such bodies are subject to general legal restrictions that apply to their legal structure, that are in their governing documents, and that apply to their activities.
Company limited by guarantee. Most non-charitable non-profit organisations are incorporated as companies limited by guarantee, with restrictions on how the members can share in any profits of the company. They are subject to company law but need not comply with charity law^

uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/8-633-4989?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true&bhcp=1

There may be nothing at all wrong with anything they've done. This is entirely likely tbh. That's why there was no reason for the over the top response.

I read that on the Duchy Estate magpies are trapped and killed in cages routinely. I was horrified. Casual cruelty like that is just what the RF are brought up with.

KatherineParr that’s horrible. Humans classing some animals as vermin and some not, they kill the ones who they consider vermin only so they can kill more of the ones which aren’t vermin. All that old fashioned gamekeeping and hunting is just cruelty, and exposing children to it when they’re young just desensitizes them. I just hate it all.

@TofinoSurf

This was shared on another platform but gives further explanation about limited by guarantee. It seems you can be non-profit but not registered as a charity so don't have to comply with charity regulation. So they have more freedom and flexibility on how its run and where funds go I presume.

Travalyst is not currently registered with the charity commission like Sussex Royal and Royal Foundation are.

^Non-profit organisations that are not charities
A non-profit organisation that is not a charity cannot claim the beneficial tax treatment associated with charitable status, but has greater freedom and flexibility in not having to comply with charity law. Such organisations include:
Non-charitable social enterprises (businesses with social as well as commercial objectives).


Community interest companies (CICs) which benefit a particular community and whose profits are reinvested in the CIC for this purpose.


Non-governmental organisations which campaign for specific changes in UK law.


Community benefit societies.


Non-charitable housing associations.


Such bodies are subject to general legal restrictions that apply to their legal structure, that are in their governing documents, and that apply to their activities.
Company limited by guarantee. Most non-charitable non-profit organisations are incorporated as companies limited by guarantee, with restrictions on how the members can share in any profits of the company. They are subject to company law but need not comply with charity law^

uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/8-633-4989?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true&bhcp=1

Almost.

An organisation can be not-for-profit and not be a charity, depending on its aims.

However if an organisation exists for exclusively charitable purposes, it is a charity and must be registered as such.

There may be nothing at all wrong with anything they've done. This is entirely likely tbh. That's why there was no reason for the over the top response

Exactly - the OTT response actually makes things worse, encouraging the thought "what's he got to hide?", when a calm suggestion of "here are the details - you're welcome to look" could have been much more effective

Most non-charitable non-profit organisations are incorporated as companies limited by guarantee, with restrictions on how the members can share in any profits of the company

As a complete non-expert that screws with my mind; how can members be restricted on how they share in the profits of a non profit company? Unless they're talking about allowable expenses of course, and as too many cases have shown those are wide open to abuse

I read that on the Duchy Estate magpies are trapped and killed in cages routinely. I was horrified. Casual cruelty like that is just what the RF are brought up with. How do you feel about rats?

Of course the RF have to get rid of the magpies, otherwise they would steal all the tiaras.

That’s funny YouSayWhat - I like your thinking

I read that on the Duchy Estate magpies are trapped and killed in cages routinely. I was horrified. Casual cruelty like that is just what the RF are brought up with. How do you feel about rats?

Rats and magpies are not at all the same. I wouldn't condone killing rats in an inhumane way either.

Of course the RF have to get rid of the magpies, otherwise they would steal all the tiaras.

ROFL

. They might even pinch the Vladimir tiara just to annoy Meghan cos she couldn't have it.

@Pancakeorcrepe interesting comments about Harry and animals. I remember him saying that the corgis took to MM right away whereas they'd always hated him or something like that. I'm always suspicious of people who aren't kind to animals, irrationally I suppose.

Rats and magpies are not at all the same. Really? Why?

I thought all the rf hunted and stuff like that, none of them come across as animal lovers.

Samcro indeed, they’re all it, for me the newer generations doing it is even worse. Instead of letting these traditions die, they are continuing them. We’ll probably see little George shooting pheasants in a few years which sickens me! Camilla was a renowned fox hunter back in the day and picketed it against making it illegal.

@derxa
Why don't you tell me why you think they are the same rather than being so passive aggresssive.

And the bearskin hats worn by the guards, this to me is not acceptable either. Those hats are absolutely unnecessary anyway and there are a million alternatives of materials and fabrics to make them. Stella McCartney even offered to design and produce an alternative. Did they take her up on it? No.

Why don't you tell me why you think they are the same rather than being so passive aggresssive. They are both clever animals who have survived and adapted to different environments.