More News on Harry and Meghan

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Two little bits of news I read today. First the bells won't ring out at Westminster Abbey for Meghans birthday next month and she'll be devastated. No I don't think she'll even expect them to ring. And I had to smile at Bogart the dog was left behind in Canada because it didn't take to Harry. What else could she do. Hardly leave Harry behind. And it would have been a worry with a baby in the house too. She did the right thing here.

Just looked it up and W, K & children as well as Charles & Camilla, parents, and PP were in background photos.

That's to demonstrate the continuity of succession in an official broadcast. Are Zara, Peter, Beatrice, Eugenie, Louise and James all whining about not being in the photo collection? Probably not because they're probably not as petulant as M&H. If I can grasp this as an ordinary UK citizen why the hell can't Harry when he's grown up with it? Maybe his ego is in the way.

@Mrsmathancock those shoes of Meghans are nothing like gold.

Great example of the boot being put in with no provocation whatsoever.

The Queen has 4 dcs, 8dgcs and I lost count how many dggcs! They can't all feature every year in the Queens speech. Anne does a shit load of work, for example, but I really can't recall her being featured. She doesn't flounce off! It does seem H & M expected to be the stars of the show and when they didn't get that billing, had a strop.

I'm wondering if Finding Freedom will reveal the sources of the anecdotes detailed in the book. If not, Finding Freedom is going to be a fiction rather than a biography. Who are the close friends of them who told the authors of the book? I would not believe any anecdotes from an anonymous source.

I always end up saying this on all these threads . . . people constantly say, "William doesn't want to be king, it's such a responsibility, it's so awful . . ." Etc. So how come people over the centuries have schemed, intrigued, murdered, waged war, married innocent daughters off to tyrants, all to get the faintest opportunity of beoming king?

Similarly, Charles, and William in his turn, were constantly trumpeted as "the most eligible bachelor in the world," with girls falling over themselves to try to catch their attention.

Then as soon as they find someone, it's "Ooh it's soooooo hard being married to a King. No one wants the job."

Yeah yeah being married to a King is MUCH harder than being married to someone with a zero hours contract at Aldi. Everyone knows that.

I don't get the logic of - the Sussexes were demoted from procession and were upset, therefore the Cambridges tried to smooth things over of their own accord and volition by demoting themselves to be on a par with the Sussexes but the Cambridges were so incensed at having to voluntarily make this choice that they snubbed H&M at the ceremony (or rather Kate snubbed Meghan)... surely if they were so riled up they'd just say nothing and keep their place in the procession...?

Harry's friends have not been leaky in the past though, have they?

@myrtleWilson I don't understand that either. Perhaps H&M threatened to pull out completely which obviously would have been a potential PR disaster so W&K had no choice but to suck it up, hence the bad feelings. Behind closed doors.....

I would not believe any anecdotes from an anonymous source.

This. I am astounded that so many are taking this book at face value and gossiping about it. If somebody won’t put their name to a story, it is very very embellished if any grain of truth at all.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8560269/Kate-Middleton-Prince-William-hit-biography-said-shunned-Meghan-Harry.html

Oh dear

Which story about Late not offering Meghan a lift @alliwantisagoodnightssleep?

Public Service Announcement: I went through 10 years of Christmas messages so you wouldn't have to...

In terms of photos, Harry and Meghan's wedding was featured in 2018, and then their engagement in 2018. Eugenie and Jack's wedding was also featured in 2018, but no engagement photo for them.

You then have to go back until 2008 to find another photo of Harry featured.

People who feature the most: George VI, Prince Phillip and Prince Charles. There's a bit of William and Kate but probably less than you''d expect - only 2 photos of the two of them, then individual ones of George and Charlotte in 2017, plus two of the Queen, Prince Charles, William and George (2013 and 2019). Then Anne and her whole family feature in 2011, somewhat surprisingly - maybe a significant birthday?

Queen Mary and George V in 2014, the 100th anniversary of the start of WWI.

No other children or grandchildren at all. I didn't look for the video footage, there's probably more there, but even I have my limits! Anyway, it's quite clear from this that it's the continuity of the monarchy that is the main focus.

From that DM piece, William and Harry really don’t sound like they have made peace. It’s so sad.

Oops, sorry @alliwantisagoodnightssleep. Didn’t mean to get you into trouble.

From that DM piece, William and Harry really don’t sound like they have made peace. It’s so sad. That's the bit that gets me. My brother stopped speaking to me when I married DH. Then DB died young. It broke my heart. They all need to grow up W&K included and I like them much better than H&M.

DMail says H is foof struck.

Gosh it is all a bit unseemly - the Cambridge's getting their friends to bitch and whine about the Sussex's friends. Very schoolyard - what a toxic family. Remind me why we fund them all?

Whether or not they collab'-ed (they did), they'll be the first to disown this book now it's made worse fools of them.

YouSayWhat no problem. I didn’t realise we weren’t allowed to link to the actual website.

I'm sad to read that Harry was always miserable and wanted out. It seemed to me that he had purpose with charities and Invictus, was close to his brother and family and had a trusted group of friends. It seems he can't get past the insult of William suggesting he took some time before rushing to marry Meghan. Time that could have been spent sorting out a relationship with Thomas Markle ( even meeting him!) And making sure Meghan understood the role and the principles of service to the Queen.

Gosh it is all a bit unseemly - the Cambridge's getting their friends to bitch and whine about the Sussex's friends. Very schoolyard - what a toxic family. Remind me why we fund them all? Sour as usual

@derxa - say what? That is a bit of an odd response to my post. I don't know if you have especially noted me as a poster - I usually engage with the contents of posts and don't keep track of who posts them so I don't really have any context for your odd wee post.

I'm trying to understand why Meghan thought that she shared a unique position with Kate. In one generation, depending on how many children the Cambridge children each have, Meghan will potentially be the wife of the 12th and mother of 13th in line and Kate will be queen consort, wife of the king and mother of the future king. Surely Meghan realised the situation before marriage, yet the book implies that she didn't. Her position would be comparable to Sarah and Sophie, so why wasn't she trying to bond with them over their 'shared unique position'?