More News on Harry and Meghan

[Viviennemary]

Two little bits of news I read today. First the bells won't ring out at Westminster Abbey for Meghans birthday next month and she'll be devastated. No I don't think she'll even expect them to ring. And I had to smile at Bogart the dog was left behind in Canada because it didn't take to Harry. What else could she do. Hardly leave Harry behind. And it would have been a worry with a baby in the house too. She did the right thing here.

@ajandjjmum

I think Kate and William seem to be raising a lovely family, and I like them very much.

Just been watching on Twitter one of the Army regiments wishing Prince George a happy birthday, and thought to myself that I really hope his parents don't show him that - lovely as it is - as it is placing too much importance on a small boy. It's the position that calls for it, but it would be really hard for a 7 years old to differentiate the two.

I was then thinking that Diana tried to do everything to put Harry at the same 'level' as William, which is quite natural as a mother, but maybe in the long term hasn't helped him. As we are currently seeing, this sense of entitlement extends into adulthood, and is not sustainable within the hierachy of the Royal Family.

I've obviously not got enough to do today!

Do you remember when Harry got in the papers when he was at school. He threatened to "set all the soldiers" on a class mate.

@Viviennemary

New article on DM website about Meghan wanting a birthday bash next month as she is sick of being cooped up in her multi million dollar mansion. It's not going down too well according to the comments. All the guests to be tested for covid as she is very responsible.

I wonder how the testing process works in America because I can’t see how this could work here considering the high number of false negatives and length of time it takes to get a result, means you could have started to come up in symptoms since the swab.

@CallmeAngelina

I think that the plan behind all the legal posturing is to deter others from going anywhere near them unless it's something they're in control of.

I agree but I doubt it will work. Newspapers etc employ legal teams to ensure what they publish generally is just in the right side of crossing the line. It seems that the more H&M have reacted to articles, the more negative ones are published which make them look bad but aren’t actually something they can win litigation over.

I think the birthday party is a bit of an invention.

Yeah, I'm not sure I believe that one either.

Do people honestly think that Meghan is demanding a birthday party?
It sounds like typical DM headlines and clickbait...
Well... I suppose it gives an opportunity to beat her with a big stick again

I read she wants something low key, she wants a few close friends, she would like it outside and she doesn't want to come across as careless or irresponsible... surely this is all quite normal, or am I missing something.

All wild birds die for those reasons! What a stupid post! Have you never thought about why there are fewer wild birds that are not bred for shooting. Loads of pheasants are about. They really are not in decline!

Do people honestly think that Meghan is demanding a birthday party?

On this thread, clearly not - look at all the replies already saying that report has to be wrong

@Roussette

Do people honestly think that Meghan is demanding a birthday party? It sounds like typical DM headlines and clickbait... Well... I suppose it gives an opportunity to beat her with a big stick again

I read she wants something low key, she wants a few close friends, she would like it outside and she doesn't want to come across as careless or irresponsible... surely this is all quite normal, or am I missing something.

I don’t see how you have made that assumption from reading the multiple posts above which have either completely disregarded the article and not even commented on it or else said they haven’t believed it. The vast majority clearly don’t believe that at all. I really do think we sometimes read completely different things when we see the same words.

Ummm... people have said they don't believe it, but also posts like Meghan will do what she wants because she's full of her own self importance, she brooks no opposition and someone can see her going all out to have her party.

Ummm... people have said they don't believe it, but also posts like Meghan will do what she wants because she's full of her own self importance, she brooks no opposition and someone can see her going all out to have her party

5 straight 'no' and one 'well maybe, because she doesn't like being opposed, but what are the actual rules where she lives'

Hardly ringing endorsement, is it?

Right, ok, so they have a different general opinion of her character to you Roussette. People are saying that, though they agree with you on the point about the accuracy of that particular story. I don't see the problem.

I don't believe the party story. I think the comment about feeling cooped up in a mansion over egged the pudding.

DM has been bringing out these "exclusive" stories almost every day. Definitely a slightly malicious attempt to drag down their image before the book launch but who can blame them if they're currently being sued by MM.

Though regarding the party, covid testing parties is actually a "thing" in LA. I follow a blogger (relatively unknown) and she had a covid-tested baby shower a few weeks ago. It was only close friends/family but clearly there are services on offer in the area if people want to meet up.

I suppose seeing the 'she'll do what she wants because she's full of her own self importance' etc etc coloured my view of who said what. I didn't count, I'll remember to do that next time

Newspapers etc employ legal teams to ensure what they publish generally is just in the right side of crossing the line

I think this is something that often gets forgotten in the heat and fury
Nobody disputes they sometimes get it wrong, but to read some comments you'd think they print absolutely whatever they want without the least thought of accuracy

... and that's certainly not the case where anything litigation-worthy is concerned

So saying Meghan feels cooped up is something that can be proven one way or the other?

Nope. Surely it can't, because it is saying she feels something. Therefore, it gives the DM carte blanche to shout out a headline like that and have those that dislike her frothing at the mouth at the injustice of her feeling like this whilst living in a huge mansion.

The fact that people believe this drivel is beyond me. It's designed to keep the clickbait MM gravy train going.

Let's just assume it's a load of BS, to be faced with such headlines day after day must be deeply upsetting.
OK, at times they don't help themselves but none of us on here knows the real truth of the past and the present do we? We know some of it, we don't know all of it.

@Roussette

I suppose seeing the 'she'll do what she wants because she's full of her own self importance' etc etc coloured my view of who said what. I didn't count, I'll remember to do that next time

I genuinely think that for once we are all pretty much in full agreement that either the entire article is rubbish or perhaps, having read what CrystalPuff has said, the suggestion is fairly normal where Meghan is and it’s just that we don’t have covid testing parties here that it seems so ridiculous as to not be true. Certainly if it’s fairly normal in America then again, I think we can look at the slant of the newspaper article which doesn’t make any suggestion of that and gives the implication that Meghan is just thinking of herself rather than considering the sort of party which is considered sensible and normal (in America) right now.

We’re likely to have covid-19 for a long time so actually, testing prior to parties or special events could well become some sort of new norm for some people.

Whatever the rules are in LA, they're not working!

Well, I've just seen a thoroughly depressing interview with an American public health expert / WHO staffer on the rise in cases in California. It's quite concerning.

Whatever the reguiations are today, they might have to be re-tightened.

The message in every country is the same: wear masks, keep your distance, wash your hands, cooperate with T&T. The countries which do this have (to date) kept it under control. Those which loosen too quickly, or have populations which put individual choice above common good are failing. US is failing quite markedly right now, and California amongst the worst affected.

Totally agreeWinnie, don't want to hijack the thread with COVID news but I do think we're on track with something in UK, read an interesting article today from a reputed source

I sincerely hope we’re on track with covid in the U.K. it’s complacency that could end up being our biggest downfall.

Absolutely. The article I read was about us leading on the biomedical front.

@WinnieTheW0rm

Whatever the rules are in LA, they're not working!

Well, I've just seen a thoroughly depressing interview with an American public health expert / WHO staffer on the rise in cases in California. It's quite concerning.

Whatever the reguiations are today, they might have to be re-tightened.

The message in every country is the same: wear masks, keep your distance, wash your hands, cooperate with T&T. The countries which do this have (to date) kept it under control. Those which loosen too quickly, or have populations which put individual choice above common good are failing. US is failing quite markedly right now, and California amongst the worst affected.

This is off topic, but as a nerd I can't help but point out the inaccuracies in your post.

Looking at covid deaths per capita, UK, Belgium, Spain, Sweden, Italy have done far worse. It's interesting that the UK has fared much worse than both Spain and Italy.

UK: 671 deaths/1M pop
Spain: 608 deaths/1M pop
Italy: 580 deaths/1M pop
Sweden: 562 deaths/1M pop
France: 462 deaths/1M pop
US: 444 deaths/1M pop

Sources:
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

I'll take liberty over "common good" any day. Thank you very much. No doubt too that US would have fared much better if certain governors (like Cuomo from New York) did not force Covid patients upon nursing homes.

How can you compare when UK is same size as just one US state, we're a bit cramped here! Also Spain... vast compared to us. More than twice as big area wise, and 16million less people. Only 60 less deaths per 1M pop there, hardly surprising given our size and population within it.

(Disclaimer, our figures in UK are shocking but we have to put it into perspective)

I did a really long reply and then realised I was completely veering away from the topic. So to stay back on track, I have to say that I agree that California in terms of active cases is concerning. I hope H&M are staying safe where they are and I expect they do feel cooped up and bored. They might be in a huge mansion but I’m guessing they are without many of the possessions that make it a home and without much contact with friends. Virtual talking is great but no substitute for seeing people in person and being out and about.