News on Meghan and Harry

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Since they are in the news more or less daily why not a thread on this. Latest I've read over the last few days is that Meghan is going to produce a film from a book. And later this month she is teaming up with Michelle Obama for project on gender equality. Both sound interesting projects.

Totally agree FannyCann x

She didn’t want to be forced to “step back,” she wanted to work and pursue her charity work.

Anyway the whole point was she wasn’t allowed to raise her son and do little charity projects in peace. She left because of the non-stop bullying and racial abuse, not because she was bored.

I mean, she left. She gave up. She sacrificed a royal title, palaces, connection, and squillions of pounds. She closed all her social media accounts. She spent months a virtual shut-in giving the press no ammunition. And still the press and the Bashers continue to be completely fixated on her 24/7 and to stalk and abuse her nonstop.

Meghan could take the veil and go live out the rest of her days in a remote Tibetan monastery, never showing her face to the world again, and the tabloids and online brigade would still spend every waking moment obsessing over her and taking about what a manipulative fame-chaser she is.

I think you'll find it has nothing to do with racism.

No it’s used to describe anything that’s perceived as “leftie.” Certainly it was used hundreds of times in the BLM threads on Mumsnet, and was all over the Laurence Fox threads too.

Curious as to why Mumsnet aren't chucking the derailers off this thread?

Defending Meghan actually isn’t derailing, as much as you wish it was.

wolf some feminists would argue that marrying at all is anti-feminist.
If I had fallen in love with a prince and thought I could cope with being a member of the RF (two big questions) then it would follow that I'd move country to be with him since his role was country specific.
I'm not sure marriage or love are ever 'feminist' decisions. Personally in my relationships, my feminism manifests in the dynamic of our relationship and in the division of labour.

Meghan could take the veil and go live out the rest of her days in a remote Tibetan monastery, never showing her face to the world again, and the tabloids and online brigade would still spend every waking moment obsessing over her and taking about what a manipulative fame-chaser she is.

That is complete nonsense and you know it.

"Woke" describes an annoying type of leftism that is about identity politics, Marxist claptrap and a lot of breathy jargon.

I'll continue to use this word to describe irritating people who engage the above, thank you, and that includes if they are biracial or non-white. Did you know that it's actually possible for biracial and non-white people to spout rubbish, just like white people can?

Frankly, the entire royal family (not just H&M) engage in a lot of superficial woke stuff, while continuing to sweat wealth and priviledge from every damn pore. It's so ridiculous.

She left because of the non-stop bullying and racial abuse, not because she was bored.

Its glaringly obvious there is now a huge rift between Harry and the rest of his family. Much like the similar situation with meghan and her own father and siblings. Is this also because of bullying and racial abuse do you think?

She left because of the non-stop bullying and complete lack of support by the family. They’ll issue an official denial over an innocuous story about Kate getting hair extensions, and William goes full war on the press threatening everyone and claiming his human rights are being violated over a small story about Kate falling out with a neighbour before anyone knew it was linked to an affair rumour. The Queen even personally defended Sophie Wessex and stated she wanted the press to leave her alone after she was caught selling access to dodgy sheiks and slagging off the royals in camera. That’s far worse than anything Meghan has done. Yet they didn’t lift a finger to defend Meghan against a two-year onslaught.

Meghan clearly wanted to enjoy a nice life doing her beloved charity work and jet-setting with her new celeb friends. She obviously didn’t have any problem at all doing the boring bread and butter stuff that other royals refuse to do. (And it’s pretty rich making completely unfounded statements that she was “bored” doing events when she performed those events diligently and enthusiastically, especially when other royals actually do have a record of being workshy and neglecting their patronages) But she voluntarily chose to walk away from all the money, fame, status and privilege. The idea that she sacrificed so much because she felt she’d be more of a star as a former Royal is a pretty big stretch.

No. She joined in good faith, worked as hard as she could, but was bullied out. Exactly the same as Diana except + racism and -unsupportive husband. At least Meghan is lucky enough to have a husband who genuinely loves and supports her.

I bet Harry is cheering that he met a woman who understood about toxic and emotionally abusive families, and was willing to support him in his goal of leaving and finding a path for himself. Such a shame his family wouldn’t let him do that.

Very few women would have accepted an offer to become a Princess then voluntarily walked away. Most women would have clung on for fear life and encouraged/coerced Harry to stay no matter what.

Gosh. Has Omid Scobie joined Mumsnet?

There’s always one 🤣

On the previous thread someone claimed that MM was going to be "teaming up with Michelle Obama" on a project to do with female equality.

Just to set the record straight, MM is a keynote speaker at Girl Up, a campaigning forum started by the UN. Michelle Obama involvement is contributing a message, on behalf of the Girls Opportunity Alliance.

H&M also launched court actions whilst they were senior working Royals. They may have wanted to launch more, but they were certainly not barred entirely.

I don't think it's ever a case of a faceless official deciding what is actionable. It's the individual. They'll be advised, but they cannot be compelled to follow that advice.

It was never going to be initiated by others for them, they'd have to come up with it themselves (as they did, several times)

And in that 2-3 years, Meghan had unprecedented welcome (first unmarried partner to Sandringham for Christmas, early public engagement with only HMQ (definite seal of approval - didn't Kate wait years?)

And of course being given some pretty major patronages, which she has not had to relinquish. It is a pity that we have not seen more of her icw The National, especially

(The Countess of Wessex BTW was compelled to stop her outside work, and was in the wilderness for years)

What status has she walked away from? A royal title?
Fame? The latest event she was invited to with Michelle Obama - was that in the back of being a d rated actress in suits?
Privilege - such as giving up uk tax payer funded security? Willingly give up not forced to?

At least Meghan is lucky enough to have a husband who genuinely loves and supports her

Agree.

All the women who have married in to the Royal Family (the men to a vastly lesser extent) have faced thus. And only one Royal husband has said, no actually we don't have to put up with this.

I don't think any of us what goes on in anyone else's relationship. I have seen seemingly devoted couples announce divorces out of nowhere in real life so am not going to believe any royal/celeb couple are just so in love.

Obviously, one hopes they are all in happy marriages.

I do think MM was initially good at PR she has that feminist/charity working/hard working reputation believed as fact by so many. I am not doubting all that stuff but as I have said before I don't think any of the RF work that hard and that includes MM when she was part of it. Am sure she would say she worked much harder on Suits.

As for the whole 'woke' conversation, Obama said it best, judge people by their actual actions not by what they say on twitter/insta etc.

I know Michelle Obama was a successful lawyer and Meghan Markle was a successful actress but both are only being asked to speak by the UN, are only that famous because of the man they married.

Surely women's equality needs to be moving away from "marry a rich/successful/famous man" as the example set for young women.

How about getting Angela Merkel, or Theresa May or even Diane Abbott to speak?

Quite @BalloonSlayer

I don't under estimate how hard it is to marry into the RF for anyone but if MM had done any due diligence especially after her friends alerted to her as to the british tabloid press, well 5 mins on google seeing how Diana, Kate, Fergie have been treated and I would have been really evaluating my options.

Gosh. I think Michelle Obama has done far more than just marry a man. Being FLOTUS, school meals program, LBGTQ rights, and she did a hell of a lot for feminism and african american women during her time in the WH. And continues to do so. Is this what we do now? Negate her achievements because it came about through marriage?.
She's an inspiration AFAIC.

@BalloonSlayer I agree entirely, and in some advertising I saw she is listed as her full name but with Duchess of Sussex underneath- a title she gained by marriage- why not actress/activist/charity campaigner