Harry and Meghan court dramas (not Suits)

[ARoseInHarlem]

Starting this thread while I digest the last few posts on the previous thread. I think the H&M saga could be as unsettling for the RF as the Charles & Diana bad publicity in the 1990s, if not worse.

@ZaraCarmichaelshighheels you do realise that Zara Tindall is an Olympic equestrian? Which may contribute her sponsorship with Rolex

Steve Guerdat is also sponsored by Rolex and last time I checked he is not related to HMQ

It's not up to me is it? It's what sells well.

I think unfortunately she's infamous rather than famous.

According to yesterday’s papers, Meghan‘s friends say she has gone “worryingly quiet”.

I’d say don’t worry! Unless you’re Jessica Mulroney...

That's debatable, to put it mildly

Lots of people think she is.

I didn't say Charlize and Keira weren't famous, I said MM was too, like it or not.

for complaining about the Royal Family, for shrieking at staff and flinging tea at them
Dear oh dear. Could you prove a source that says Meghan Markle flung tea at members of staff of the royal household please. If you do, I will apologise profusely. Your loathing of her shines through in your posts.

Anyway, shouldnt you be busy reporting me for being some some of paid shill ?!

*some sort

The difficulty with the speeches, is that the only interesting thing either of them really have to talk about is their experience in the Royal Family. They can't do that though as it would be making money out of royal connections. People would pay a lot of money to hear that.

So what to talk about? Speeches about their charity work would be very boring I think and they have no specialist or expert knowledge. People listen to Royal speeches on such matters at charity events because they are free and bring publicity to the charity. No one in the right mind is going to pay a million to hear any of that (and I say that about any Royal)

The court case is a car crash. As a lawyer I can seen in the drafting that the lawyers are being asked to include stuff against their advice. But the customer is king, and if they tell you to put it in, you put it in (after sending a lengthy written disclaimer detailing why you advise against it).

I think ‘flinging tea’ is a phrase, ‘spilling the tea’ is a phrase used to mean telling the things people might not know . If you look on You Tube for example you will find lots of videos ‘spilling the tea’ on all sorts of organisations for example students ‘spilling the tea on their first year at University’

See a pp mention Nick Leeson - I would go to a speech he makes because he was involved in a very scandalous, fascinating piece of history. That is what makes it worth paying for - it is interesting. But Nick has to talk about the scandal. No-one is going to pay Nick Leeson to talk about Black Lives Matter for example as he has no expertise in this. This is the issue Harry and Meghan will face - the one thing people would pay a fortune to hear about is the one thing they can't talk about.

According to this, Meghan can speak perfect Spanish (and is also fairly fluent in French) and this social enterpise she visited recently certainly seemed to appreciate her visit - it sounds very worthwhile and relevant

Recent visit to social enterprise for former gang members

I imagine that the public speaking gigs are to raise money quickly. I doubt they see this as their long term career. I still think it's a bit deluded, based on what we have seen so far, but they live in the spiritual home of delusion so maybe in LA it will fly.

TV and film production I could see working for them. My impression is that they see Archewell being the vehicle for productions on issues that they are (currently) passionate about. Funding perhaps to be drawn from generous benefactors, and also some in house productions of the money making variety. H and MM closely involved, him presenting, her directing.

I hope it works out for them. The sooner they are properly independent of the royal family the happier everyone will be.

Part of Meghan’s issue with securing major endorsements with eg fashion houses is that they always have incredibly robust morality clauses covering termination of the deal is the endorser does anything which might damage the brand’s reputation. Meg is far too volatile for most. Kier knightly / n Portman etc pretty much only open their mouths to promote their films. They appear on red carpets and are otherwise off radar and that’s what they’re paid for. Meghan will always consider herself bigger than the brand (even if the brand happens to be the British royal family - “hey, lets colllaborate!”)

@TheNavigator

According to this, Meghan can speak perfect Spanish (and is also fairly fluent in French) and this social enterpise she visited recently certainly seemed to appreciate her visit - it sounds very worthwhile and relevant

Recent visit to social enterprise for former gang members

That's not quite what the article says. She does speak Spanish well conversationally but there's no evidence she is fluent. The article doesn't say perfect Spanish, it says when speaking to a girl she spoke it "perfectly", then goes on to say it was "very good". She herself admitted her French was "High school".

All credit to her for the skills she does have but let's not get carried away.

@TheNavigator it’s really not a major accomplishment to speak Spanish if you were born and grew up in LA.
And with regards to French - being able to hold a basic conversation is not the same as being fluent.
I don’t understand why you are mentioning these two languages as if it is some special skill. It is fairly run of the mill and basic stuff.

I think her best bet would be to restart Tig - or similar and then make docuseries for the likes of Netflix where she follows and interviews notable people - doing interesting things. A fashion designer preparing for fashion week (with a humanitarian/cause angle); Harry following a sports star preparing for a huge sporting event (with a charity angle etc...)

This way they can use their own status and celebrity but the focus is on someone else and so more interesting and more longevity.

Then they can add on premiers, met galas, cameos in Bond films etc..

@Myimaginarycathadfleas apparently now she is a polyglot and linguist too 🤣🤣🤣 it does make me laugh.

Let us not pretend that if William & Kate visited a social enterprise and slipped into a second language you wouldn't be genuflecting in awe. I'm just pointing out MM doing something that sounds useful and being accomplished while doing to - but I guess a lot of posters on this thread won't enjoy reading that at all.

I think her Spanish is pretty decent, she did the internship in Argentina and became pretty fluent I think

@TheNavigator

Let us not pretend that if William & Kate visited a social enterprise and slipped into a second language you wouldn't be genuflecting in awe. I'm just pointing out MM doing something that sounds useful and being accomplished while doing to - but I guess a lot of posters on this thread won't enjoy reading that at all.

You're just being silly now. HMQ's French is pretty good, you don't hear people banging on about it. No-one is genuflecting in awe, other than you.

@TheNavigator I can guarantee you I really wouldn’t be genuflecting in awe for a bit of Spanish from someone that grew up in LA. Do you not have a sense of context?
And how do you think MM’s visit to this social enterprise was useful for them? Yes, it was useful for MM. It’s again one of those very discreet visits arranged by her, they’re always very low key but somehow end up in the news...

Just to be clear, my point in correcting TheNavigator was not to bring MM down. I was at pains to give her credit for the skills she does have.

But it doesn't sit well with me for someone to make grandiose and unsubstantiated claims about her abilities based on a misreading of an article and then find fault with other posters when they do something similar from a more critical standpoint.

She cannot have thought through he court case though. Surely the Mail will call someone from the palace - a courtier to give evidence. They will then be asked why the didn't deny the stories. They will say that they did not deny as they have grounds to believe a lot of the stories were true - and then can give detail on what they believe to be true.

This will be terrible press for the couple.

Let us not pretend that if William & Kate visited a social enterprise and slipped into a second language you wouldn't be genuflecting in awe.

Er, no. It's not that impressive to know a second or even third language. I know several 'normal' people in real life who do and one who teaches two languages. It's great but I'm not in awe of them.

I don't understand why there's constant comparison to Kate from those defending Meghan

Agreed, they really aren't in the same league. It's like comparing Lady Diana to Fergie.