Harry and Meghan fly off into the sunset (soon)

[PelicanPie]

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Harry could fly helicopters

Harry can't fly helicopters. My take on the whole mess is somewhat different to the theories I've seen advanced on this thread. See what you think:

This mess has been caused by very low self-esteem issues, both Harry's and Meghan's. Harry should never have gone to Eton. He had to repeat at least one, if not two, academic years, and only got two very low A level grades by getting teachers to cheat for him. If ever there was a case study in accurately matching school to child and vice versa, this is it. He was 'supported' in the Army. Due to this, his self-esteem and self-worth must have been at rock-bottom for many, many years. However, he really started to come into his own when he showed an interest in injured military personnel - and, all that came before would not have mattered because he was the Queen's grandson, so would have found respect from others in this domain (and, because of this, the general public noticed too). However, this all came to an abrupt halt, which is a shame.

Meghan has her own self-esteem issues, signalled by the, quite frankly, wacky behaviours that we have witnessed. These, very clearly, show that she is seeking to raise her own self-esteem and self-worth from external sources by bending people around her to her will (hence validating her weird actions). Wacky behaviours include Wimbledon, baby shower, transatlantic flights without baby, hide-and-seek with baby, one million on clothes in one year, only one person from the 'friends and relatives' category at wedding, Disney...People who are comfortable with themselves know that just because you can do something doesn't mean to say that you should. They make the right judgements. She didn't.

They did not leave but were pushed, hence the scramble to release the 'we are leaving' narrative before the 'you are taking a step back' narrative was made public.

Low self-esteem x 2 = difficult to navigate. We all suffer from low self-esteem issues at times but if you have someone around you who can support you, then all ends well. When two individuals who are seeking external validation from others because they don't feel it inside themselves join forces, the outcomes are not so clear.

coconutpie I think if you include the deleted threads we're on number twenty five.

I believe that there are a good many people reading who never post.

I have almost given up posting. Anything I want to say always seems to be said better by someone else anyway.

There are certain posters whose comments I particularly look forward to reading.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though - but wasn't humour a feature of these threads a few hundred years ago?

Correct me if I'm wrong, though - but wasn't humour a feature of these threads a few hundred years ago?

You're not wrong there, and it is much missed..

Ah good luck to them. I hope they get their happy ending. Meghan can't do right for doing wrong. The press coverage of her in the Fail particularly is toxic and reactionary. Do not blame her in the least for going. Liked her a lot and she is a loss - all the leaks and bs from William's side to Dan W should think about that, nobody to scapegoat now, buck lies with them.

Ahh when the humour and witty comments reigned.

But was inevitably not going to last. Still not a guarantee this one will.

Humour sometimes still is a feature, I think. But that's often when the pile-on starts. I think quite a few of the rows have been about sense of humour failures.

Ah well, Pelican, we were well and truly told off for daring to show pictures of cats and discussing the minutiae of our daily lives.

Pah. Who cares? If I want you all to see a picture of my cat(s) I shall jolly well upload one.

Not right at this moment, though. I have to go to the Robbing Butcher's shop.

I thought Harry looked so wistful at the military event the other night, as if it had finally dawned on him what he was giving up. Apart from when being introduced to people, he was struggling to maintain a smile. MM does that a lot more easily because she is a trained actress. So I was pleased to see the announcement this morning about their plans for a military charity, though we will have to wait to see how that pans out.

I do find their constant hand holding and touching irritating. Yes it's nice that they are so in love, but this is something else, smacking of a neediness and a lack of confidence that belies the Hollywood grins.

On the other hand, when you see how natural MM was with the school children and how Harry loves his military roles, I feel so sad that they believe they can't make a fulfilling life in the UK. They had so much potential, all now seemingly thrown away for what? An illusion of freedom and a quiet life.

Liked her a lot and she is a loss

As far as I can see, the only thing this country will lose will be the huge amounts of money we'll have to pay for H & M's protection abroad.

Humour? This is No Laughing Matter as we all know

The point is not that we're all invested. One would be blind not to say so.

The point is the hypocrisy in people going out of the way to accuse others of being over-invested, when these have never sought to apologise for being so, whilst they themselves profess to be uninvested but are remarkably and demonstrably so.

In fact one could be pedantic and say they are more invested since the subject matter would appear to be one they disagree with which, by nature, must require one pushing past a certain threshold of distaste.

Who told who off for posting cat photos?

What do cats have to do with Harry and Megs?

How is discussing the minutiae of your life bringing humour to these threads?

Who the frick is the Robbing Butcher?

I have to go to the Robbing Butcher's shop

To find out if he's shut, obviously.

There is something I am absolutely itching to say, to do with over-investedness but I can't say it. So I will do something else instead.

Oh shoot, the pesky corona virus and now the sliding FTSE are hogging the front pages.

This is So Inconsiderate when people have a 2bil brand to build!

What time is the Commonwealth event today?

What has a butcher got to do with the price of fish?

Would imagine it's late morning 7, then perhaps a cheery family lunch afterwards?!

They must have balls of steel is all I can think - fair play to them.

mateysmum

I thought Harry looked hollowed out. His skin was grey, he looked like he hadn't slept and there was a sort of going through the motions, unreal quality about him. I agree I think it's beginning to sink in. I actually think he's really suffering with his mental health. I wonder if all the hand holding and patting is because M knows he is barely coping, but it looks all wrong.

He looks like his former self when on solo engagements which makes me wonder if M somehow zaps his life force or something.

In footage of him before his marriage he looks so so different. He may have had issues then, but I suspect they pale in significance to how he is now. He does look much happier in photos abroad, though it's hard to tell in a snapshot getting off a plane or whatever . I truly hope this move brings them peace. I don't think either of them are suited to the Royal life . It's the cost of it all that pisses me right off, and the fact they are living off the taxpayer and Charles.
Just go quietly, I say.

The Robbing Butcher is an enigma, a legend a mystery...

Cat's have traditionally always been a feature of Royalty from the Egyptian's onwards.

Princess Michael of Kent has a cat apparently.

And there are studies show stroking furry animals help reduce stress. Maybe that is the problem: If M &H had a kitten, we wouldn't be where we are. The lack of furry cuddleness on lap is the problem.

yolo somehow I can’t picture an amicable farewell lunch, where Kate asks MM to pass the ketchup, and they all have a right laugh because ofc none of them would dream of consuming common condiments.

Nothing in Meghan's 38 years on the planet indicates that she has ever wanted a quiet life. She has worked her way to fame with whatever means and people were at her disposal.

showing! Goodness.

What cat does Princess Michael own? It has to be a sphinx surely?

Archie was left behind again even though they are here for at least a week. This is to ensure he can't be domiciled in the UK.
He has to spend the majority of his life in a different jurisdiction before they will bring him back to the UK for a visit. I suspect that is why he didn't come this time.

This is to ensure he can't be domiciled in the UK.
He has to spend the majority of his life in a different jurisdiction before they will bring him back to the UK for a visit. I suspect that is why he didn't come this time.

That is awful if so.