Harry and Meghan (15)

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No harm in having it ready for the next event/announcement...

Update - producers of said show spoke officially to deny the rumours about MM appearing.

Sometimes I think these sort of rumours are PR teams testing the water to see if the public will respond well.
Or, if I was super-cynical, I’d say put rumours out there for really tacky stuff, so then something a little less outrageous is confirmed, it just doesn’t look as bad as the rumoured thing. 🤔

I’d agree re PR teams testing the waters. A lot of ‘leaks’ are fully intentional.

Also, assumption Diana would be happy that Harry has found happiness...just my opinion but he’s the unhappiest happy person I’ve seen for a long time! I’d be very worried if he were my son but would let him get on with it and make sure I was there to pick up the pieces

I agree about the testing of waters. I doubt she will be making burger ads again but you never know!

Agree about the unhappiest happy person.
No mention at all of what Harry is intending to do to earn his living! He could surely join a search and rescue operation like William as he’s a trained helicopter pilot!

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Looks happy to me but the press look for the negative as that sells. Unfortunately people don’t seem to want to accept that they are happy doing something different from being senior royals.

Only time will tell whether they are happy or not.

I hope they are with my heart, but my head tells me it'll be a bumpy ride.

I can't believe that anyone on this thread is falling for the MH stories as these are obviously being drip fed by the RF. Delicate Harry, he's in a fragile place, his concerned family want him to be able to return in case he can't cope outside the UK etc. All these little whispers are now treated as fact and goodness knows what will come next. The RF PR machine is ruthless.

It’s not about not being senior royals.
It’s about Harry not having any obvious prospects as Meghan’s +1 in LA, apart from using his RF status to beg executives for voiceover work.
And MM pursuing fame and wealth in ways that cheapen the RF.

If they went to Africa to tend to elephants everyone would’ve approved.

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Did you miss all the many references Harry has made himself about his poor MH? Just recently he said he thought he had dealt with his issues in therapy but they’ve come back and now he realises they will always be with him?
Whoever it was earlier In The thread asking if he had had a diagnosis, you don’t need a diagnosis to know if you are severely depressed and struggling. No one really knows what’s going on, but he has indicated himself he has been on the verge of a complete breakdown several times. He also had anger issues which were pretty severe.
It could be he has PTSD coupled with issues from his childhood.
He looks like a very unhappy man in general and all the light has gone out of him.

There seems to be a lot of common ways to attack women cropping up in these threads...

age - ridicule her as old, portray her as desperate. Women don't have best before dates! Women like Staunton and Streep are the famous examples not the exception. There's no reason to suggest Meghan's career was over.

motherhood - imply she's not a good mum. Baby Archie has two loving parents. There's nothing to suggest he needs any concern. There are plenty of babies that do.

jealousy - pit women against each other. Often Meghan and Kate but directed towards Diana this morning.

Basically none of us know, or will ever know why they have made the decisions they have or what their plans are for the future. I’m no fan of the RF but do like this couple - a breath of fresh air in the family.

7worfs this is my concern. M will be fine, there are lots of things she could do. H has no expertise that we know of in anything but soldiering. He is the trailing spouse, and as people who've been there know, there are challenges in that role too.

Sunset you are so right about the light having gone out of him. perhaps he is a different person at home, let's hope so.

This is from a Guardian article and sums up the DM well

Microsoft’s internet browser is warning users not to trust the Daily Mail’s journalism as part of a feature designed to fight fake news.

Visitors to Mail Online who use Microsoft Edge can now see a statement asserting that “this website generally fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability” and “has been forced to pay damages in numerous high-profile cases”.

The message, which is produced by a third-party startup called NewsGuard, tells readers to proceed carefully given that “the site regularly publishes content that has damaged reputations, caused widespread alarm, or constituted harassment or invasion of privacy”.

DM publishes rumours, that deliberately look like they could be true , rumour posted here and discussed, drives traffic to site to check, public exposed to rumour and more likely to believe the next one. DM get money and damage MM's reputation. Job done.

Poppyfields21 - I’d agree re PR teams testing the waters. A lot of ‘leaks’ are fully intentional

Yes I think they were testing the water as a PR move - it's her friend Jessica's wedding planning show

There could possibly be the potential for huge political embarrassment if they do something that is not properly planned. I wonder if Harry and Meghan actually have residence or work permits for Canada? The speed at which they left for Canada made me think that they had probably just applied for for an initial 6 month visitor visa while they sorted themselves out. Work and residence permits usually take longer to approve. They had no planned work at the time and are living in a holiday home so it probably would be fine to sort themselves out on a visitor. I always thought that this was one of the reasons that they were keen to keep Frogmore as you need to have a home to return to for a visitor visa. But you cannot work on a visitor visa. Harry has never had to think about such formalities before. Meghan has had a work permit in the past - but it would have been cancelled when she left the country permanently. It would be a huge political issue if they broke the law.

Sorry Rocking but you post misses the point completely.

No-one is ridiculing her age but they are pointing out that in her career there is a cut off point for pretty LA actresses of the type that M is. She isn't Streep or a Staunton, she has never played a heavyweight role (or at least we haven't seen any evidence of it in the many excerpts available). Watch Suits to see what she is capable of, it has a market but it's limited

No-one has said she's not a good mum. People have concern for Archies's future because of the foolish decisions his parents have jointly made.

Pitting M & K against each other has worked in her favour as well as against it. She isn't being pitted against Diana. People are saying that it isn't a given they would have got on. And there is plenty of evidence, for instance in the way Diana treated Sophie, that shows Diana liked to be top dog and could be mean and manipulative to ensure that position.

a breath of fresh air in the family.

Hmm, not sure that's how the family would describe it.

How was Diana supposed to have behaved to Sophie? I don't remember reading about that.

Agree - this isn't about us saying age discrimination towards women is right (it clearly isn't) but it is commonly what still happens in Hollywood.

rocking: "There seems to be a lot of common ways to attack women cropping up in these threads...

age - ridicule her as old, portray her as desperate. Women don't have best before dates! Women like Staunton and Streep are the famous examples not the exception. There's no reason to suggest Meghan's career was over.

motherhood - imply she's not a good mum. Baby Archie has two loving parents. There's nothing to suggest he needs any concern. There are plenty of babies that do.

jealousy - pit women against each other. Often Meghan and Kate but directed towards Diana this morning."

I think this is rubbish. 1) Her age is barely/rarely mentioned on these threads. No one has said women have best before dates! Read things properly. The poster said actresses have best before dates - which they do! Actresses talk about this a lot too - Helen Mirren, for example, has said the roles for women over a certain age drop.
Streep has said it too. It's a fact!

2. again very few have implied she's not a good mum. It's not an over-riding reason people dislike her. The concern expressed has been if they split up and that he probably won't see his cousins as regularly as he might have if there were based permanently in the UK. Again, references to it have not been excessive.

3. the newspapers do try to pit Meghan and Kate against each other. Again it's not an over-riding theme on these threads and most see through it. There have been a couple of posts saying Diana might have been jealous of her DILs, just that, it hasn't been excessive.

You're exaggerating. You're doing what peridito did yesterday, focusing on things to make the posters on these threads look bad when the examples you give are few and thin on the ground.

Sorry to go back to this but I'm only just catching up

@annielouise
There is no common criticism in these threads that Meghan has said that she hates England. It is no way accepted as a fact. Where? It's been mentioned once or twice but not extensively and perhaps not even on these threads

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CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook Tue 14-Jan-20 13:07:20
There’s no way Meghan will want Archie at a boarding school in England. She obviously despises the UK and probably despises the class system too. Although happy enough to profit from it when it suited her

Yet hates the country that gave it to her (because they're so racist they made her a Duchess). I mean what WTactual hypocritical F?

JulietJanuary Thu 16-Jan-20 13:23:10
The painting a whole nation as hateful is not rational though.

BillieEilish Thu 16-Jan-20 21:37:42
Neither of you thought the efforts made for you in your extremely short time together here were enough, you hate the country, the people, the family. So just bugger off and stop talking to anyone and everyone about it. Talk about scorched earth.

Cora1942 Fri 17-Jan-20 01:19:15
They have been very rude. The Guns and Rose's song. Megan's comments via friends how she hates UK.

TeaLibrary Fri 17-Jan-20 13:26:13
They hate us and use their friends to spew bile to the press about the British people and the monarchy

Wheresthebeach Fri 17-Jan-20 18:16:47

So what are they going to announce? That H&M hate the UK even more now, then they did last week?

CurlyWurlyTwirly Sun 19-Jan-20 12:48:53
There was something in the original statement from thevSussexes about Archie experiencing his British (Royal) héritage. Even if Meghan hates the UK

yolofish Sun 26-Jan-20 13:26:43
Then they get told she hates it here, the RF were unwelcoming, we're all racist etc etc - that's a bit of a slap in the face really.

DeTwamps Sun 26-Jan-20 16:37:08
The chances of Meghan returning are slim and none. She has nothing over here. She certainly appears to have hated it enough to move continents.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling Sun 26-Jan-20 11:36:46
but don't label and cast aspersions so publicly on the people and country who welcomed you and financed you.

Clearly she didn’t like something about the UK peridito as I assume otherwise they wouldn’t have left the UK less than 2 years after they were married. A very expensive & public wedding where they had people lining the streets.

And, I think the point of my post has been missed!
These things are very insidious, deliberately. But women are attacked for different things to men.

She was not washed up, it's a stick to beat her with. Archie is in no danger. I mentioned Diana as someone said she would be jealous of her daughters-in-law. It's not whether Meghan has benefited from the comparison of pitting women against each other, it's that this is a tactic commonly used against women.

@annielouise

The phrase cherry pickers has been consistently used throughout the threads.to describe picking and choosing events .Along with the more commonly used variations like picking and choosing .

joyfullittlehippo Wed 15-Jan-20 13:37:49
what they believed to be work-shyness and an insistence on cherry picking only the glam events.

SpanishLady Fri 17-Jan-20 06:23:35 as now but with them getting cherry picking rights

CallmeAngelina Sat 18-Jan-20 18:20:49
But does he seriously expect to ride off into the sunset with an open cheque, pop back every now and again to cherry-pick a couple of his favourite charity events

Some headlines to keep this thread on track:

Royal officers protecting Harry and Meghan in Canada say they are treated ‘like skivvies’

SCOTLAND Yard officers protecting Prince Harry and Meghan in Canada have voiced concern about running errands including picking up groceries and coffees

I was such a fraud!

Newly-unearthed clip shows the moment Meghan Markle admits she fibbed to casting directors about being in an actor's union so she could land a part

Kim Kardashian's endorsement company claims to be taking offers for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle and asks for commercial requests from its clients across the globe

All the repeated use of 'fragile' in statements from 'Royal sources', plus 'Frogmore will be there for a period of rest & recuperation should they return for good' says to me that there has been a deeper MH issue than the not being over his Mother's death. Which he has publicly admitted to, where he stated William told him to get help. I have a feeling he'll struggle to find a role, end up mostly a house husband, then get fed up & come back, without Megan.

Blind item 7

Apparently the alliterate former actress was willing to latch onto anything that would give her a paycheck regardless of the quality of the project. That is not going to be a good look if that continues.