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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Act 6 Scene 2) Is Everyone Okay?

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TheMustressMhor · 17/01/2020 00:06

This is Thread Eight in a series which I did not imagine would last more than one.

Meghan's friends are now writing on social media that she has been fortunate to "escape the clutches" of the Royal Family.

We, who care enough for the Queen that we are appalled by Meghan's blatant disrespect for the Crown (and the family which embraced her) are still reeling as we go from revelation to revelation. This bizarre and unprecedented situation has unfolded over a period of just eight days.

We are now beginning to see what Meghan's likely agenda was. It seems that abandoning the UK was her plan even prior to the wedding - a wedding which cost the British people £20,000,000.

Not many people actually begrudged paying that £20,000,000. But some were prescient enough to say that the marriage would not last and that Meghan would abandon this country once she had a child.

She has. She has fulfilled those prognostications amply.

It was just rather...quicker than perhaps we had imagined...…. and a good deal more brutal. Cries of "racism" have abounded - cries which are simply not justified.

What will happen next? Meghan has gone to Canada, a country which does not seem particularly keen to foot the huge bill for security which her presence requires. She is dropping in on charities for disadvantaged women, almost unannounced, without the backing or knowledge of Buckingham Palace. It is cringeworthy and embarrassing in the extreme.

Prince Harry seems to be lost in the maelstrom of public opinion. What will happen next? Will Meghan announce a second pregnancy?

And is the RF okay?

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katiegoestoaldi · 17/01/2020 19:35

Goodness, that's a bit of a leap lamarschallin

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 17/01/2020 19:37

That's a really unpleasant post @LaMarschallin. Who thinks like that?

Planeplane · 17/01/2020 19:37

The six weeks "much-needed time as a family" (wouldn't we all like that?)

Wouldn't we all indeed. I haven't had a holiday for a couple of years, in fact the closest thing was us breaking down on the way to the in laws this Christmas and having to stay there for over a week!!! (Which admittedly was fine as they are lovely and generous with the gin but still...) Not sure that 'much needed time as a family' is quite the same without a nanny and chef and Pilates instructor though, I'm not planning to holiday until my DS is an easier so a little way off but I'd be an awful lot more ok if they'd lend the nanny to me for 6 weeks.

The80sweregreat · 17/01/2020 19:38

Narcs do well as they know how to play the games.
My mil was one and it was tough going ; she was a classic text book type who lived a horrible life as she would never realise that the sun moon and stars did not revolve around her. It's not good talking about the dead like this, but she really was the most difficult person in the world to help or like.
It was sad really as she couldn't see how her actions hurt everyone and how toxic she made everyone's life.
I miss her ( strange to say) but she could have done with some help in life. The other persons point of view did not exist.

ajandjjmum · 17/01/2020 19:39

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite
I have always understood that the Queen has always been fond of Fergie, despite previous behaviour. It's Philip who has the problem with her.

So much of what you said resonates with me though - I never thought I'd warm to Camilla, and yet she seems now like a good partner for Charles - and fun.

And yes, Diana became very manipulative. But goodness know what effect her upbringing and then Charles' treatment had on her. And she certainly loved those boys.

Don't think I'll ever change my opinion of Meghan though.

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LaMarschallin · 17/01/2020 19:40

yolofish

&oh ffs lamarschallin! The woman was eating a fucking Bounty bar!!

No, I wasn't being sarcastic and obviously missed that bit.
My fault for not reading more thoroughly.

I'm probably a bit jumpy because this thread - which I was enjoying and have contributed to - seemed to be veering towards the racist end of the spectrum.

I did report the post; if it was made in good faith, MN hopefully should let it stand.

And - to quote the chap from Disney when Harry made his Meghan V/O pitch - "I did not know that".
Re M's V/Os or the coconut thing.

Always pleased to learn.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 17/01/2020 19:41

I think she has shed her Royal skin and this is Canada Meghan underneath, probably close to how she was before she met Harry.

Buying into this for a bit...

It begs the question - why marry a PRINCE I mean what on earth did you think it was all about?

No one is that insulated that they do not know that being Royal means you loaf in your baggy tops at home and be normal (sometimes) but the rest of the time it's presenting a certain way and being on display.

Anyway, I reckon she read all about Diana as evidenced by the books on her shelf, and went in with preconceived notions (and a lot of attentional bias) about what the RF were like. I think she used that to work on H as well. She's an actress (she has a degree in the subject) and can emulate a famous persona if she wants to.

What's being forgotten is that Diana (angst aside) was devoted to the RF up until she got divorced. Had their marriage been reasonably happy and the love reciprocated, I think Diana would still even now be married to Charles. Plus she gave it considerably more time. Not less than 2 years.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 17/01/2020 19:43

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NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 17/01/2020 19:44

Don't think I'll ever change my opinion of Meghan though.
Me neither.

kinsss · 17/01/2020 19:46

Sorry now, both Camilla and Charles were off the wall whilst C was still married to Diana.

So many threads on here about the OW in ordinary lives and it is devastating. But I suppose being a Royal means it is not that bad, tradition or something?

Now to be absolutely fair to M and H, which is worse, sleeping with your mistress for years whilst married to your wife, or fecking off and leaving them all at it?

I bet many of them are all messing around. And it is covered up big time.

LaMarschallin · 17/01/2020 19:46

@Lordfrontpaw

My sincere apologies for not reading through the thread more carefully and misconstruing your comments.

I'm very sorry.

The80sweregreat · 17/01/2020 19:47

My opinion of Meghan is low.
My opinion of Diana was much more sympathetic really. Yes, she had flaws and manipulated the press and was difficult but I believe she was also nice and caring and had a heart. I was sad when she died as it seemed such a waste of a life.

Andylion · 17/01/2020 19:47

One of the female leads was played by the same Actress in Downton Abbey. She married a Duke who turned out to be secretly gay and in the end she ran away with her lover!

That was Carla Gugino. I don't think she was in DA.

colouringinpro · 17/01/2020 19:48

Katie 😁😁😁

Lilybetsey · 17/01/2020 19:49

I have been giving some thought to why we are all (myself included) so invested in these two people we don’t actually know.

Part of it is, for sure, the ‘having cake and eating it’ attitude, and resentment at their entitled and ridiculous posturing , in Africa, a “ much needed” six week break etc etc

But for me part of it is an appalled fascination at the mechanics of another royal relationship doomed to failure. Harry, foof struck and adoring, Meghan planning, adoring on the surface, but so much smarter than dimHarry ... the speed of the relationship, the inevitability of the decline

I think the marriage has been miserable from almost day1. M whinging, crying and demanding, Harry stressed anxious and desperate to please her..giving up friends, distancing himself from family, agreeing to things that he knows are not “ok” - all to try and make monster-attention-seeking Meghan thrive... but it will all end in disaster for Harry. I salute HMQ for leaving the door open or her grandson to return, ....

Lordfrontpaw · 17/01/2020 19:50

@ LaMarschallin - s’ok... I’ve done the same thing too in my time... it’s not a slur I’ve heard for a long long time (shudder). Thank god DS has done kick boxing for the past ten years.

The80sweregreat · 17/01/2020 19:52

I have a feeling they will part and Archie will not really know his dad ; Harry will be back and forth and she will rise up through the ranks to the A list she craves. For a while anyway!

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 17/01/2020 19:52

If what you're saying, Catherine, is that she was treating it as another acting role, then we agree. I think she naively thought she could blag it until she learned the ropes.

The problem is that being royal is about a change of mindset, not a change of clothes.

I think her self belief exceeded her capabilities in the end.

LaMarschallin · 17/01/2020 19:53

@Lordfrontpaw

Thank you - that's really gracious.

(Especially when I didn't even ask if you were okay after the choking fit Smile)

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 17/01/2020 19:53

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diddl · 17/01/2020 19:53

(Camilla aka Tracey Ullman) goes shopping)

Did someone put this up recently.

It made me laugh& I can imagine Camilla appreciating it.

Lordfrontpaw · 17/01/2020 19:55

I was fine - a nice chap did actually stop me in the street to as if I was ok (all snottery and whooping - and guffawing at this thread).

Don’t try to walk, listen to R4, MumsNet and try to stuff a whole chocolate bar in your mouth all at the same time.

Bar #3 is sitting on the bread in daring me to eat it.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 17/01/2020 19:57

Have been giving some thought to why we are all (myself included) so invested in these two people we don’t actually know

For me I find myself watching in horrified fascination, a textbook toxic relationship play out in front of the entire world and yet the two involved probably have absolutely no idea this is what's happening.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 17/01/2020 19:58

Oh I think one of them knew what was happening...