What happens when the queen dies?

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I know that. Harley's becomes king etc but what happens to the others? Will they be left money/homes/? Do they inherit anything? Is the queen allowed to leave them royal 'stuff'?

Might be a bit random but I just thought of it

And the issue was less with him setting aside Katharine and more with him marrying someone else whilst she lived. When he married jane Seymour, both Anne Boleyn and Katharine of Aragon were dead.

My Nan lived under 5 monarchs and so would have seen this happen three times in her lifetime.

I know that broadcasters are always prepared and update their material for when it happens on a regular basis.

Crazy to think of people living through five monarchs. Most people alive now will only have known one.

A lot of people alive now will know three, though - Elizabeth, Charles and William.

I suppose I'm thinking about people of my dads generation....he was born in the early 50s and recently died but I guess he died younger than most.

I agree that Charles seems very healthy and clean-living

On the face of it yes, and obviously I know no more than anyone else since medical records are rightly private

But sometimes I notice his often florid complexion and those sausage-like fingers and wonder ... blood pressure issues?

Henry VIII did not divorce Catherine of Aragon, he had the marriage annulled. On account of her being married to his brother before him. "Divorce" was still more or less prohibited; although to our modern eyes it is a clear case of divorce that was not how Henry presented it.

Lol at his ears being to big
Harley sounds much cooler

Henrys sister Queen Margaret of Scotland was divorced. Ironically Henry tried to stop her and then changed his mind completely when he decided he wanted to get rid of his own wife.
Margaret had to get permission from the Pope and it took years but it was granted.

Henry VIII did not divorce Catherine of Aragon, he had the marriage annulled. On account of her being married to his brother before him. "Divorce" was still more or less prohibited; although to our modern eyes it is a clear case of divorce that was not how Henry presented it.

Exactly. In a different european political climate, Henry may well have received an annulment from the pope. But (if I remember it right) the Spanish Emperor Charles, Catherine of Aragon's nephew, was more or less holding the Pope prisoner at the time. Plus it probably suited the other major powers in Europe to have an unstable English succession - or at least a princess in succession who would need a husband.

Henry lived and died a catholic in his own eyes and in terms of doctrine etc.. the first protestant king of England was his son Edward.

great thread.

I don't know if Charles would have married Camilla if Diana hadn't died. As his ex wife was dead, his remarriage was less of an issue. Of course, the c of e stance on remarriage also changed.

I've been told that Diana's death actually resulted in Charles having to postpone his marriage to Camilla - which was allegedly planned for

People are talking about us having a day off when she does but surely if she dies at say 11am we aren't just going to pack up and go home. By that token it won't be worth have the day after off as that defeats the object. I suspect we would only have the day of the funeral and coronation off.

language is fluid,and the commonly understood meaning of nonplussed
Is not bothered,unperturbed
I'm using nonplussed in that context not any other.and I'd wager majority would understand it too
Nonplussed is frequently used to illustrate not vexed,unfazed. I do know the more traditional meaning of nonplussed from the Latin,but a cursory glance at literature,news shows nonplussed used in context I've applied it

It's still wrong even if thousands of people are using it incorrectly!

I have never heard nonplussed meaning not bothered.

Language is fluid, yes. Words change their meaning, yes. During a period when one group believes a word to mean the direct opposite of what another group believes it to mean, it is bound to cause confusion. I've no idea how nonplussed has come to be used in this way, but that's not what I understand by it, and I'll wager there's still a substantial number of people who stick to the traditional meaning. For that reason alone I will now be avoiding using the word.

But a quick google suggests differently if you are American.

I've no idea how nonplussed has come to be used in this way,

I think because it does sound like it should mean "not bothered" and people just never learned that it didn't so use it to mean that.

I thought non plussed mean not bothered and I considered myself fairly erudite

I've Googled and learned my lesson bit I've had 2 bottles of prosecco so God kb9ws if I'll remember tomorrow

Nonetheless,I'm indifferent,nonplussed,unperturbed about what happens when queen dies
I'm sure there'll be plenty conspicuous grieving,and maudlin threads on mn
And the silent majority,will silently,stoically get on with life.cringeing at the media coverage

one group believes a word to mean the direct opposite of what another group believes it to mean, it is bound to cause confusion.

What's the other word like that? It's driving me mad, but I can't bring it to mind. Does anyone know?

"Peruse" is one of those words, at least in the States. It's traditional meaning is to read something thoroughly, but it is often used now as the opposite, to read quickly or glance through.

@Manumission I bet you are thinking of fulsome. I hate its misuse but as it is increasingly common, I too tend to avoid using it at all, to escape confusion.

language is fluid,and the commonly understood meaning of nonplussed
Is not bothered,unperturbed
I'm using nonplussed in that context not any other.and I'd wager majority would understand it too
Nonplussed is frequently used to illustrate not vexed,unfazed. I do know the more traditional meaning of nonplussed from the Latin,but a cursory glance at literature,news shows nonplussed used in context I've applied it

I'm not sure language is fluid in the sense that a word can mean anything at all at anytime (unless we are in Alice in Wonderland) but language certainly changes.

I wouldn't have put Nonplussed into that category. I read your first post using it and thought "what is she saying??". I have no recollection of ever seeing it written or spoken the way you are using it. I can see how Nonplus may well be making its long march to your meaning but it isn't there yet.

And its original meaning is great (thinking of the Percy French song McBreen Had Two Daughters which has a great line "and that left the lad in a horrid nonplus".)

Enormity is further down the road to meaning something entirely different. Hopefully has already arrived.

great thread this.