What happens when the queen dies?

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I know that. Harley's becomes king etc but what happens to the others? Will they be left money/homes/? Do they inherit anything? Is the queen allowed to leave them royal 'stuff'?

Might be a bit random but I just thought of it

I too was puzzled by Gimmee's posts! On the one hand, she says she will be unperturbed and yet on the other hand she vehemently insists that she and most of the nation will be nonplussed! Her posts are rather self-contradictory.

But I think you must be right, Gasp and it is just a 'using the wrong word' issue.

Ah! This throws some light on the "nonplussed" usage!

I think there's a chance (Charles's) mother may outlive him though

Yes I've wondered about that myself, especially since historically - even with the excellent care they get - Windsor men haven't been all that long lived

I realise we're talking about a man's life here, but from the point of view of the good of the monarchy, some might even consider the scenario no bad thing

His dad is 95 though. The duke of Windsor did ok age wise too, IIRC.

Last king died of lung cancer, didn't he?

Charles is pretty healthy, and I doubt that he smokes. I think George V, George VI and the Duke of Windsor all died of smoking-related causes.

Duke of Windsor died at 77 but that was in 1972 when life expectancy was lower anyway - he beat the average by a few years!

I agree that Charles seems very healthy and clean-living. But also I wouldn't be surprised if the Queen lasts till 110 or more.

The Queen mum loved gin and fags and still made it to 101.

Oh and re coins, even after decimalisation we kept some of the old ones - the old shilling ones became the new 5p coins. I have a memory of there being a two shilling silver coin which could be used as a 10p but that the half crown coins (2/6) were bigger and those were removed from circulation. Happy to have my menory corrected!

But definitely remember playing "who's got the oldest/newest coin in their piggy bank" post decimalisation and having Victoria on some.

The Duke of Windsor also smoked, didn't he?

George VI lung cancer was probably caused by asbestos as well as fags. When he was a naval cadet he slept in a dormitory built from badly degraded asbestos.

The QM smoked well into her 80s and was a right pisshead. When she became Queen she cut down on her drinking by limiting herself to only sherry before 12am and not hitting the gin until lunch.

Sort of like dry January, but not quite then, Bill!!

I should have clarified my thoughts on that - it's not that I think Charles is unhealthy or will die relatively young - I can just see the Queen lasting until she's older than her mother. Although I think that may depend on Philip and when/how he goes. They could be one of those elderly couples who go within a very short time of each other.

Would change a few things for William and Harry (and Harry's children in particular) if Charles did go before his mother.

I hope Charles does become king, even for a short time. He's 68 now so even if the Queen lives to 100, he's got a good chance of 5-10 years on the throne at least.

William will probably have a long reign, so the later it starts, the better.

Do we get a day off work when she dies?

People didn't get a day off work when the King died. I think most did for the Coronation.

They got a day off for the funeral eddie.

Someone upthread mentioned that Edward VIII's real name was David and that he picked Edward for his regnal name.

He was actually called Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David (the last four names being for the patron Saints of the British Isles) and was known as David.

Victoria decreed that all male descendants had to be named Albert . Edward VII was Albert Edward (known as Bertie) but it seems he didn't want to be King Albert so he changed his name. The next heir was also Albert-as-a-first-name but he died. George V, his younger brother, was actually called George. Then Edward VIII as above and then George VI who was also called Albert (Bertie) but presumably didn't want to be King Albert either.

It seems that if their name is a traditional regnal name they keep it, otherwise they don't. I strongly suspect that Charles, William and George's names have all been chosen because they are Kingly names.

Charles is pretty healthy, and I doubt that he smokes

He's very anti-smoking - Camilla gave up for him. Now that's lurve!

I can't see the Queen wanting to be in the throne until she's 100+, I reckon when Philip goes she'll step down in favour of a quiet life at either Sandringham or Balmoral.

DanGleballs said: "The country will mourn a lady who put duty before her personal interests at all times. Whatever people think of the monarchy, the Queen has served her country faithfully at the expense of her own happiness and at the expense of her relationship with her own children."

She left two infant children in the care of others for months on end over a two-year period when she went off to Malta to live between 1949 and 1951. So sometimes "at the expense of her relationship with her own children" was for her pleasure as it was not duty pulling her away; she chose to leave the children in the care of others when she could have taken them with her.

The idea that she's sacrificed such a lot is such rubbish. If the "sacrifice" hadn't been worth it - in terms of untold wealth, adoration, being spoiled, not having to exactly work at the coal face etc - I'm sure none of them would choose to do it. The pay-off is clearly worth it. They have A LOT of spare time.

Prompto she won't, and Charles won't step aside for William. The British royal family strongly believe in the heriditary principle and that stepping aside or retiring and passing the throne on to someone else undermines the principle of a hereditary monarchy so entirely because the logical next step is to do away with heriditary positions entirely. Maybe William might do it, but it won't happen before about 2057 when he is 75 if at all:

I wonder if any of the Royals are MNetters and are reading this thread with amusement?

[waves to Camilla/Kate etc. just in case]

Agree, Bill. Her father didn't abdicate for her despite poor health, unlikely she will abdicate.

At the risk of being outed as really dense, why did the C of E not recognise divorce when it was ostensibly set up to allow Henry VIII to divorce? Surely what Edward VII wanted was small potatoes in comparison to Henry?

It's not very logical, is it?!

Henry VIII was still broadly catholic in most of his practices. The pope would not deem his marriage to Katharine of Aragon invalid. Henry claimed to think it was (after 20 years...) because it was wrong of him to marry his brother's widow. It wasn't an open season on divorce.