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Trend of claw covers

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Vinorosso74 · 14/09/2017 12:55

‘Cruel’ cat owners criticised amid growing trend of fitting pets with fake nails to show off on social media | London Evening Standard www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/cruel-cat-owners-criticised-amid-growing-trend-of-fitting-pets-with-fake-nails-to-show-off-on-social-a3634576.html

Just saw this and my thoughts were WTF?! I mean why would you do this to your already beautiful cat?

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Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 15/09/2017 12:05

Bertrand,
I've had to trim my old cat's claws for the last few years because with him becoming more sedentary his claws get too long and he gets them stuck in carpets/seats when walking/jumping up causing him discomfort.

ContraryToPopularBelief · 15/09/2017 12:30

I had to use these for my cat for a period of 6 weeks in conjunction with a huge booster collar. They were a life saver - literally! My poor wee cat was in a dreadful state with a skin disease that wouldn't clear up as he was scratching and biting it.

It was so bad we considered euthanising him as his quality of life was so bad. The vet fitted these and he wore a booster collar meant for a cocker spaniel.

They allowed his skin to heal and he made a full recovery.

That said, I can't think of any other situation I'd used them in.

KinKinKitten · 15/09/2017 16:44

I'm not trying to start an argument and I don't appreciate being accused of mistreating my cat but surely new things should be considered properly rather than dismissed. Like you say they prevent the claws retracting, but how? Is the anatomy of a cats foot such that it's claws retract through a tiny space into the paw (which would obviously be impeded by a cap)? It doesn't look like it on my cat. His retracted claws fit neatly within his paw and mostly covered by fur but not fully retracted into his body. I'd say a good 2/3 - 3/4 of the claw are not covered by the skin at the joint.

I'm all for my cat behaving naturally (although it's funny there are some natural behaviours such as spraying, coming into heat etc that are deemed undesirable) but, like many others I'm sure, if I can save my furniture without hurting the cat then I will.

BertieBotts · 15/09/2017 17:05

Okay, that's fair, I've heard that before and forgotten. It's true for some older cats or cats with poor teeth who cannot manage their claws themselves (younger ones manage them perfectly fine by chewing them as part of their grooming process, and scratching) then I accept that trimming may be helpful but in most cases you should leave your cat's claws alone.

Likewise an extreme case like Contrary's (I wonder if mittens would have worked here too, but the cat was obviously suffering) but for ordinary pet owners - no. Use a citrus spray or onion on your furniture to dissuade them. It's not about rejecting new products out of hand - there are lots of new products for cats which I think are a great idea, but anything which directly affects how the cat is able to use their body should be treated with a high amount of scepticism in my book - it needs to be proven that there's a significant benefit, rather than using something until you have significant evidence of harm.

To me it's like getting a puppy but saying oh I can't be bothered to deal with their biting stage and anyway dogs can really hurt people so let's just remove all their teeth - it would be so cruel and unnecessary. Pets aren't just fluffy fun things, they do come with responsibility and inconvenient parts too. Anybody who's trying to sell you a perfect solution to any of these inconvenient parts should be viewed with extreme suspicion, because it's rarely that simple and problem free.

Spraying and heat are not really the behaviours you're eliminating by neutering a cat, the point of neutering is to prevent them from reproducing, which is a different issue entirely.

5rivers7hills · 15/09/2017 17:10

Cats come with claws.. Don't like it, don't get a cat, simple.

^This

It's hard to know what to believe.

Honestly I wish people were taught critical thinking skills and how to asses information sources for bias at school. It doesn't require much intelligence to work out which information source are more trustworthy FFS.

KinKinKitten · 15/09/2017 17:39

Obviously you consider the provenance of information when deciding how reliable that information is. But just because a source has a vested interest or bias it doesn't mean what they say is automatically invalidated.

Battersea Cats and Dogs Home say the caps prevent the claws being retracted and inhibit normal behaviour, softclaws.com says that's not the case. Softclaws.com goes on to illustrate with a picture of a sphynx cat how the claws are not actually fully retracted into the paw and presents customer testimonials which say their pets continue to scratch, claw, knead etc and show no signs of discomfort. Battersea Cats and Dogs Home presents no further explanation how or why the caps inhibit natural behaviour or evidence of a cat in excruciating pain.

It's like the difference between saying "declawing is cruel because it inhibits natural behaviour" and "declawing is cruel because it removes the first joint of the cats foot rendering it unable to walk properly". One argument is clearly more persuasive than the other.

Orangebird69 · 15/09/2017 18:35

Battersea have nothing to lose or gain by saying that soft claws are ok. Their sole interest is the welfare of the animal. Softclaws make money if they sell. Battersea are totally unbiased. Softclaws are not. But you clearly only want to hear or believe what suits your needs Kinkin.

JigglyTuff · 15/09/2017 18:47

Knock yourself out kinkin. I hope your cat shits in your bed and pisses in your shoes

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 15/09/2017 21:44

Bertrand surely you understand that some cats need to have their claws trimmed because they don't go out (and before you say it's cruel, some choose not to) or because they can't manage to look after their own claws.

My boy doesn't have many teeth and if or when he loses more we'll probably have to go down the claw clipping route. We tried it this year after he kept scratching his face until it bled but we've decided to leave it for now and keep an eye on him.

OlennasWimple · 15/09/2017 21:46

I saw these in the pet shop and couldn't fathom how on earth anyone would ever get them on the Wimple cats. Even the more docile one would have your arm off if you tried to put these on him!

Vinorosso74 · 15/09/2017 22:09

The manufacturers only care about profit not animal welfare. I was shocked by the ES article where people were trying to glamorise their pure cats.
Clipping claws I believe is perfectly acceptable as long as it's done properly with the correct clipper. Vinocat is old and less active so doesn't keep her claw length down without help meaning they sometimes get stuck so the vet will trim them. Some of the CP cats I see get a pedicure (and some become octopuses in the process) as their claws grow whilst awaiting new homes.

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BertrandRussell · 15/09/2017 22:26

Clipping a cat's claws because it is unable to look after them itself is one thing. Clipping them because you don't like cat behaviour is something else....

Vinorosso74 · 15/09/2017 22:31

I agree. When a cat is out and about doing cat stuff the claws are naturally kept under control so no need to clip. As soon as they are less outdoorsy clipping is necessary, claw covers not.

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abbsisspartacus · 15/09/2017 22:37

I used to help fat cat with his claws when they shed I'm assuming claw caps would prevent that? He used to get bits of claw wedged at the top where it retracts this would then get red swollen and sore iyswim i would get the tweezers grab the offending part and he would pull and twist till it came away Grin

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 16/09/2017 07:51

Bertrand your post made it sound as though you thought no cat should have its claws clipped.

BertrandRussell · 16/09/2017 09:34

Sorry, Pink. I was focussed on the "my cat's behaving like a cat-shock horror" posters and clipping the claws of young healthy cats. Of course some older less agile cars might need help.

JigglyTuff · 16/09/2017 09:48

I used to have to trim my old lady's claws. My current furball would have your hand off if you even tried to put claw covers on him. Even brushing him is a bit risky!

Toddlerteaplease · 16/09/2017 10:02

My lazy beanbags have the tips clipped off their claws because they get stuck on the carpet. They are indoor/garden only and fairly sedentary.

ocelot41 · 16/09/2017 10:31

I didn't know clipping claws was considered controversial. My vet said it was a normal part of cat care, like grooming. Can someone please explain why they think it is a bad idea? Precious Puss Girl has lots of posts and other scratchers, but prefers our carpets.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 16/09/2017 13:55

Sorry Bertrand, a misunderstanding there! I've only ever had Harry's claws clipped the once and I felt guilty afterwards. I am resigned to the fact we might have to do it as he gets older though as he hasn't got many teeth now and if he loses more toenail care might be tricky!

Allergictoironing · 16/09/2017 15:10

I think the claw clipping thing is very dependent on the individual cat. If the cat spend most of it's life indoors, then they don't get the same amount of natural wear and tear that a cat that spends most of it's time outdoors will get. Mine are indoors, one of the conditions of me adopting them, and though they are great at keeping their fronts nice ad trim they both, Boycat especially, tend to growing slightly over-long back claws. These can catch in fabric, which in Boycat's case causes him to panic (he is a very thick panicky cat at the best of times).

They are both very enthusiastic users of the scratching posts on their tree, but of course that's front claws mostly.

BertrandRussell · 16/09/2017 15:32

Ah. Well, I've e got into trouble about my views on indoor cats before, so I'll just slink away....

ladystarkers · 16/09/2017 15:36

What sort of fuckwit has a cat and does this. Plain cruel. Don't have a cat if your worried about scratching.🙄

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 16/09/2017 16:06

Please don't Bertrand! I don't always agree with you but you make a lot of valid points.

I don't agree with keeping cats indoors unless it's necessary for health reasons or the cat chooses to stay in. DM's cat rarely goes out and his claws are bloody sharp but there's no way I'm even attempting to cut them although it would probably be better if they were clipped!

YodellingMama · 16/09/2017 16:35

Bertrand generally point blank refuses to acknowledge that any cat might be happier indoors than out.

My two will literally just sit there ignoring an open door or window. They could not care less about going out.