Where to find a goodledoodle puppy

[Maybemabel526]

After extensive research we’ve decided to get a black goldendoodle puppy. However we’re having trouble finding a good breeder we have confidence in - does anyone have a goldendoodle they would recommend their breeder? Or suggestions on where to look? Thanks!!

Would you not recommend MTAR?

If you had actually researched you would know doodles are a 'breed' (and I used that word very loosely here) that are not recommended by pretty much any vets. You are combining 2 breeds and can have anywhere on a large spectrum of issues. I would suggest doing some actual research regarding the best dog for your family based on breed qualities and your family dynamic and not looking at Google images.

Personally, no. I've heard too many stories of how they take in ex-breeding bitches from puppy farms and therefore "clean up" somewhat from the whole sordid nature of it.

Frequently unpredictable,nervous and neurotic ,of course not all but i would say the majority are.
These mixes are not 'mongrels',thankfully most people know the advantages of spaying a bitch so now vets very rarely see the type of mongrels seen decades ago.
The nearest things we see to mongrels are the dogs brought over from eastern Europe,Spain etc don't get me started on their problems!
The British mongrels were some of the best dogs ever , i have done my job a very long time and i miss those happy hardy heinz 57's.
It makes me sad what stupid people have done to dogs , i would never have believed all those years ago that we would be dosing dogs with prozac.

Last month near me 3 “doodles” were dumped in an abandoned quarry in the middle of the night, left tied to a gate with no food or water, absolutely terrified.

They were about 10 months old, fur matted with saw dust from being kept in an outbuilding. It was identified they’d clearly been dumped by a puppy farmer/ “breeder” now they were too old to be sold as cute little money making puppies. Adopt, don’t shop.

I remember seeing that on social media - it's horrendous and happens more often than people realise.

I see. But what would happen to the dogs if they didn’t? I see they take in a few puppies also that cannot be sold.
Other rescues take in dumped next breeding dogs too.

I found them a little pushy, but their reviews seem good. I am planning to go and have a look around, but I’m very wary. (Genuinely I have a thread on a similar subject). Really value as many opinions as possible.

I also thought council licensed breeder was a good thing to look out for- I can see I am wrong on that score too.

This.

I've had two cockerpoos, I'd never do it again. Rescue or a proper breed every time.

My issue with MT is that they're basically funding the puppy farm scene. By taking in unsold puppies and ex-breeding bitches, they're mopping up the "mess" the farms leave behind and giving them the room to breed even more puppies without anyone being dumped.

The issue with council licensed breeders is that, to be licensed, you need to be producing at least three litters a year - which either means you have lots of bitches on the go, or that you're over-breeding the ones you do have. Neither of which are a good thing.

Please tell me this is is a joke

It's not a breed

There are no good breeders of poodle mixes

They are backyard breeders who do it to extract money from clueless people.

They cross 2 working dogs then sell them for £££ to numpties tnat choose a dog based on fashion and looks.

Get a

Golden retriever
Black Lab
Poodle
Flat coated retriever (pretty sore on one would sell you one - they are rare and the breeders are good and vet people properly

Though honestly don't get a a dog.

Exactly this. I've heard of people before who have knowingly bought from a puppy farm (only realised when they went to view) and felt they've 'saved' the puppy, when all they've actually done is fund the place and enable them to continue.

@biscuitsandbooks Ok, thanks. I see what you mean.

@Maybemabel526 my neighbour has just bought a goldendoodle pup a couple of months ago!! it is going to be huge! but I agree. backyard breeders only breed for money and not for the benefit of the dogs. those dogs, are in fact, only mongrels given a fancy name!! think cockerpoos have only just be admitted into kc but how can you breed cockerpoos or goldendoodles? to do this then you must have a pure cocker and a pure poodle for each mating, or they become cockercockerpoos or cockerpoopoos!!

I’m hoping this is a joke 😂😂 doodles aren’t breeds

I doubt OP @Maybemabel526 will be back. But hopefully, the discussion here will make anyone else think very very carefully about their next pup.

what checks did you do?
Registered with the council? Can still be a puppy farm
Online? No idea what that even means
You aren't an awful person at all but you did buy a dog from a puppy farm

What I find incredibly interesting, is how much people's desire to get a puppy trumps their humanity and principles on things like puppy farmers. It really does show just how awful much of the dog owning population are.

I just googled 'Cockerpoo club GB,' - clicked on the link, went to the 'approved breeder page.' All their breeds have 5* council licences, and 'websites' (ohhhh a website, it must be legitimate!!!!!).

So, I clicked on one breeder at random, google searched their kennel...low and behold, puppy farmer. 15 cocker spaniel breeding bitches. No one can honestly look at that and not think that is an issue...yet, clearly, hundreds of fuckwits are buying puppies from them - otherwise they wouldn't be able to afford to have that many bloody dogs.

Maybe that was just bad lucky, you say. Surely the 'Cockerpoo' Club GB, wouldn't have more than one puppy farmer on it. Just an honest mistake, right?

That's okay, I clicked another. Three breeding bitches. Maybe, that's just about doable...

But, surely, it's just those two that are a bit suspect?

So, I clicked a third...five breeding bitches.

I clicked on 6, at random, in the end over ten minutes. All six had at least 3 breeding bitches, and at least two litters a year. All breeders recognised by the 'Cockerpoo Club GB' who have a 'code of ethics.'

Tsh.

I hope this serves as a useful thread for anyone still under the total misconception tnat these doodle breeders are anything other that profiteering abusers of animals.

I volunteer and foster for a proper rescue and do you know how many dogs gets dumped tnat are identical

Cocker spaniels
Bitch
Aged about 5 years old
Recently had a litter
In a terrible state - sites, underfed, terrified of people

Because they are kept in terrible breeding sheds having litter after litter - until their bodies give out - where their puppies are sold from front house. The ones you buy fen the good breeders, lovely people. It's a front. To fool people like you.

And they are then"lucky" ones. Most of the breeders shoot them rather than the hassle of dumping them

Do you know what dogs ask end up in rescue/dumped

Poo crosses

Because yeah they look like a teddy bear but they are mostly working breed crosses fluffy need treating like proper working dogs not Duffy little accessories.

You are living in total denial if you think anything other that this is the truth.

Thousands of cocker bitches have lived lives of hell so you can buy your designer dog.

But no one else would sell me one. Because it's a bloody animal, not a piece of furniture.

If a reputable breeder would not sell you a dog it's because your set up/lifestyle/research into the breed and ability to provide for it was not good enough.

Proper breeders have few litters. They vet people not just cash will take the dog back no questions asked. And people tnat breed working dogs will quite rightly never sell a dog to someone who doesn't not have the knowledge and lifestyle to keep one properly.

Yes this is a large part of our reasoning for looking for a mixed dog. We want an F1 golden doodle so with pure bred parents. We have had two flat coated retrievers in the past, both has cancer and died at 6 and 7 years old. We’re looking for a smart, trainable dog with a longer potential lifespan. The goldendoodle seems to fit the bill and a lot of the hate just seems to be for their being a cross and being expensive which is fine.

‘I like a designer dog, so I’m going to ignore all the evidence of puppy farming that has been presented to me. I don’t care about animal welfare - it’s all about me.’

Fixed your statement for you, OP.

But I’ve literally said I’m looking for the opposite of a puppy farm? I completely do not want to support a puppy farm at all and am not looking for that hence the question, I understand that is difficult to find but surely that does not make all goldendoodles imminently bad only the people who are breeding them?

Look up Golden retrievers and find out all of their worst traits
Look up Poodles and find out all of their worst traits
Decide how you would cope with a dog that had ALL of those, because that is what you could get.
I assume you don't want a Goldie because of shedding?

Completely understand that. Yes my husband is allergic to dogs so shedding isn’t good. I want another flat coat so maybe I’ll just have to persuade him on that if what I want doesn’t exist outside of unethical breeders.

Look at what I found on the cockerpoo UK website - several posts above.

I just had a look at the UK goldendoodle one. Likewise, 5/5 (admittedly they only had five recommended breeders) who, a quick google told me were all puppy farmers.

This is why you cannot find a good breeder, OP. Designer doodle mixed breeders are, 99.9% of the time, puppy farmers. They don’t breed because the love their mix - they breed because people like fashionable dogs.

Neither the Golden Retriever nor the Poodle need to be mucked around with - they are perfect the way they are. The only reason to breed a mix of the two is because it’s fashionable, profitable and has no oversight.