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Where to find a goodledoodle puppy

111 replies

Maybemabel526 · 23/02/2025 14:37

After extensive research we’ve decided to get a black goldendoodle puppy. However we’re having trouble finding a good breeder we have confidence in - does anyone have a goldendoodle they would recommend their breeder? Or suggestions on where to look? Thanks!!

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mnahmnah · 23/02/2025 16:02

The black colouring can come from the poodle. We have a phantom poodle, Black and Tan.

FindusMakesPancakes · 23/02/2025 16:08

Try a Curly Coated Retriever.
Lovely dogs, in need of more fans to keep the breed alive.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 23/02/2025 16:13

Garlicgarlicgarlic · 23/02/2025 15:11

I have Black and Gold by Sam Sparro in my head now. Love that song.

Are there any breed standards for crossbreeds? What genetic tests would the breeders need to do on the parents?

I can't think what things would make a good breeder, what did you find out during your research OP?

Edited

Main breed standard appears to be 'how cute does the name sound and how much money can we extract from prospective owners for our mongrels?'.

RoastPotatoConnoisseur · 23/02/2025 16:13

I got both my boys from Pengwoods in Wales. Both are happy healthy boys who bring a lot of joy and happiness despite being 'mongrels' according to the dog snobs. I don't think they have a black poodle though. In both my boys litters there was just a mix of reds and yellows.

biscuitsandbooks · 23/02/2025 16:16

RoastPotatoConnoisseur · 23/02/2025 16:13

I got both my boys from Pengwoods in Wales. Both are happy healthy boys who bring a lot of joy and happiness despite being 'mongrels' according to the dog snobs. I don't think they have a black poodle though. In both my boys litters there was just a mix of reds and yellows.

Do you not realise you bought your dogs from a puppy farm?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 23/02/2025 16:17

RoastPotatoConnoisseur · 23/02/2025 16:13

I got both my boys from Pengwoods in Wales. Both are happy healthy boys who bring a lot of joy and happiness despite being 'mongrels' according to the dog snobs. I don't think they have a black poodle though. In both my boys litters there was just a mix of reds and yellows.

It's not being a snob, it's more bafflement at why people pay so much money for generic mutts being marketed as something special and worthy of £££.

They're the Stella Artois of dogs - no different from any accidental matings from a bitch slipping the lead, but if you're told they're 'reassuringly expensive' people beat down their doors saying 'take my money now'.

LandSharksAnonymous · 23/02/2025 16:19

RoastPotatoConnoisseur · 23/02/2025 16:13

I got both my boys from Pengwoods in Wales. Both are happy healthy boys who bring a lot of joy and happiness despite being 'mongrels' according to the dog snobs. I don't think they have a black poodle though. In both my boys litters there was just a mix of reds and yellows.

You should be ashamed of yourself using a well known puppy farm.

It's not about your dogs being mongrels, it's about you being ignorant, selfish and foolish enough to support someone who abuses their animals. I wouldn't be advertising it, I'd be ashamed.

CellophaneFlower · 23/02/2025 16:20

NeverDropYourMooncup · 23/02/2025 16:17

It's not being a snob, it's more bafflement at why people pay so much money for generic mutts being marketed as something special and worthy of £££.

They're the Stella Artois of dogs - no different from any accidental matings from a bitch slipping the lead, but if you're told they're 'reassuringly expensive' people beat down their doors saying 'take my money now'.

Mine is different from an accidental mating of a dog slipping the lead. Her sire was chosen, fully health tested with proven parentage.

biscuitsandbooks · 23/02/2025 16:23

It's seriously depressing that two posters on this thread are raving about puppy farms.

RoastPotatoConnoisseur · 23/02/2025 16:23

@biscuitsandbooks not that I am aware of. They are a registered breeder with the council. When we visited 8 years ago to get our boys, they were on a small holding with only a few dogs (4?) all well looked after, in good health and kept in their house. Even googling now, there is nothing to suggest they are a puppy farm.

Either way, I am happy with my boys and so is everyone else who has got a dog from them on the Facebook group for their puppies.

LandSharksAnonymous · 23/02/2025 16:25

biscuitsandbooks · 23/02/2025 16:23

It's seriously depressing that two posters on this thread are raving about puppy farms.

It really is.

"Registered with the council."
"Five Star Licensed."
"Love their dogs."
"People judge me and say they're mongrels."

Always those same four phrases popping up from those who got a dog from a puppy farm and either don't care, or are in complete denial.

Or, in RoastPotatoe's case doesn't give a flying fig that the bitches were likely dumped as soon as they outlived their breeding purpose - she got her puppies, so it's all okay.

Chuchoter · 23/02/2025 16:27

Adamante · 23/02/2025 14:46

You’re struggling to find a decent “breeder” because decent breeders wouldn’t touch this “breed”. Most people putting these puppies out are doing it purely for the money not for love of the breed. Why not just get a black flat coated retriever? They’re a fantastic breed. Never met one who wasn’t a hilarious character and brilliant to be around.

This.

Black golden doodle is just ridiculous term for a mongrel that they can charge a high price that gullible fools will pay.

Snowmanscarf · 23/02/2025 16:29

I sometimes wonder about the breeding of such dogs.

First gen - golden retriever + poodle = golden-oodke

Then do the breeders mate the golden-oodle with another GR, or another oodle. So then does it become a golden -oodle-oodle? Or is a oodle mixed with an oodle? That’s the problem - no standard, and you could end up with a 1/8 gr , 1/8 poodle and the rest oodles(ie mongrels).

Stick with a pedigree!

RoastPotatoConnoisseur · 23/02/2025 16:32

Gosh what horrible and nasty people you are!

Do you have proof of this abuse or dog dumping once they have had their litters? Again, I can't find any examples of this online?!

I'm not going to bother responding to any more messages as whatever I say will be twisted into what an awful human being I am for having bought 2 dogs from what I thought was a loving small breeder when I did all the checks with the council and online.

biscuitsandbooks · 23/02/2025 16:33

RoastPotatoConnoisseur · 23/02/2025 16:23

@biscuitsandbooks not that I am aware of. They are a registered breeder with the council. When we visited 8 years ago to get our boys, they were on a small holding with only a few dogs (4?) all well looked after, in good health and kept in their house. Even googling now, there is nothing to suggest they are a puppy farm.

Either way, I am happy with my boys and so is everyone else who has got a dog from them on the Facebook group for their puppies.

They're a puppy farm. The fact that you can't see that from a five second glance of their website is really fucking depressing.

They claim to be "KC registered" but breed three types of doodle that can't ever be registered with the KC, for starters. And what in the ever-loving name of God is a "maxi cockerpoo"?

It's a puppy farm. Those poor bloody dogs.

biscuitsandbooks · 23/02/2025 16:34

RoastPotatoConnoisseur · 23/02/2025 16:32

Gosh what horrible and nasty people you are!

Do you have proof of this abuse or dog dumping once they have had their litters? Again, I can't find any examples of this online?!

I'm not going to bother responding to any more messages as whatever I say will be twisted into what an awful human being I am for having bought 2 dogs from what I thought was a loving small breeder when I did all the checks with the council and online.

Many Tears rescue will "re-home" many of the ex-breeders from places like that. To make it all look nice and kind and squeaky clean.

NormasArse · 23/02/2025 16:35

tsmainsqueeze · 23/02/2025 15:54

I came on here to say exactly the same , i work at a vets and wouldn't touch one with a barge pole frankly .
All 3 of these breeds especially a flat coat (wonderful temperament) are so much better choices ,much less likely to have the unpredictability and other issues of a goldendoodle - pains me to even write it.

Can I ask why? I thought mongrels were hardier than pedigree dogs.

I have two poodle crosses (purely by accident- they’re both rescues). One is a Schnauzer cross, the other Bichon (we think). They’re both fabulous dogs, although the schnauzer cross is quite timid around people.

biscuitsandbooks · 23/02/2025 16:37

NormasArse · 23/02/2025 16:35

Can I ask why? I thought mongrels were hardier than pedigree dogs.

I have two poodle crosses (purely by accident- they’re both rescues). One is a Schnauzer cross, the other Bichon (we think). They’re both fabulous dogs, although the schnauzer cross is quite timid around people.

There's a big difference between a true "Heinz 57" type mongrel and a deliberately bred crossbreed from puppy-farmed parents.

CellophaneFlower · 23/02/2025 16:37

Snowmanscarf · 23/02/2025 16:29

I sometimes wonder about the breeding of such dogs.

First gen - golden retriever + poodle = golden-oodke

Then do the breeders mate the golden-oodle with another GR, or another oodle. So then does it become a golden -oodle-oodle? Or is a oodle mixed with an oodle? That’s the problem - no standard, and you could end up with a 1/8 gr , 1/8 poodle and the rest oodles(ie mongrels).

Stick with a pedigree!

F1 is the first generation cross. Often a doodle will then be backcrossed to a poodle. This is an F1b.

An F1 mated to an F1 is an F2.

LandSharksAnonymous · 23/02/2025 16:38

RoastPotatoConnoisseur · 23/02/2025 16:32

Gosh what horrible and nasty people you are!

Do you have proof of this abuse or dog dumping once they have had their litters? Again, I can't find any examples of this online?!

I'm not going to bother responding to any more messages as whatever I say will be twisted into what an awful human being I am for having bought 2 dogs from what I thought was a loving small breeder when I did all the checks with the council and online.

Yes, proof online...it's called their website.

Good breeders don't breed more than one type of dog, don't have more than one litter a year (most don't even have more than one every two years) and don't need to have cheap websites.

Did you see grandma? Grandad? Any evidence of any dogs that weren't capable of breeding?

Basic critical thinking skills could have told you all of this.

biscuitsandbooks · 23/02/2025 16:38

Oh, and for anyone else looking, being council registered only means they breed at least three litters a year - not exactly a good thing.

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 23/02/2025 16:39

RoastPotatoConnoisseur · 23/02/2025 16:32

Gosh what horrible and nasty people you are!

Do you have proof of this abuse or dog dumping once they have had their litters? Again, I can't find any examples of this online?!

I'm not going to bother responding to any more messages as whatever I say will be twisted into what an awful human being I am for having bought 2 dogs from what I thought was a loving small breeder when I did all the checks with the council and online.

Did you ask the council how many breeding animals they were licensed for? It’s no good just knowing they are licensed - in fact, until the Government muddied the waters this was something to be actively avoided - you need to check what they’re licensed for, whether they’re registered at Companies House as the scale of their breeding warrants it (as the first suggestion on this thread is).

It is so depressing that people are still not getting the message on puppy farms and being more careful. It’s not even just about the health of the puppy you buy - and I don’t see reference to health testing - it’s the life that the parents of these puppies lead. 😡

biscuitsandbooks · 23/02/2025 16:40

Basic critical thinking skills could have told you all of this.

Yep. There are four "litters" available right now which is a huge, screaming wall of red flags. Then add the fact that they're breeding something called a "maxi cockerpoo" and anyone sensible should be screaming for the hills.

It's shocking that people think that a breeder like that could be anything even close to decent or reputable.

Glitchymn1 · 23/02/2025 16:59

I had to google what the breed was. There’s one on the pets4homes webpage. Based in Lincolnshire, with photos of the breeders on. That might be worth a look.
I’d research health issues and make sure you take out good insurance.

I’ve found it all a bit of a minefield, I’m untrusting and overthink.

@RoastPotatoConnoisseur If you look on Facebook and wales online you’ll see around 30 plus dumped labs from suspected puppy farm/ unscrupulous breeders. One of the dogs is pregnant, the others have had litters. It doesn’t make the news, nobody seems to care - sadly. Rescue centres pick up the pieces. Many dogs are sadly dumped after having their litters. There was also a lab who was stolen and reunited with owners age 13, she’s been bred from time and time again then dumped. See walesonline.

CellophaneFlower · 23/02/2025 17:00

When I was looking for my pup I looked into a litter. The lady had lots of different breeds and quite a few litters a year. She has a page on FB where she shares daily videos of her dogs out walking etc and she does seem to take good care of them. However, the amount of litters she was having and the fact I scrolled back over a few years (I do go full on 🕵️‍♀️) and her bitches had had far too many litters in their lifetime, made me discount her immediately. I actually kept nosing after I'd got my pup and noticed the bitch that had a litter at the time I was looking (she was already 6 and she'd assured me it was her last litter) had had ANOTHER litter. She'd been really shady about it as well and not announced it like previous litters. Poor dog looked knackered and only had about 4 pups, which is low for these dogs and a sign of being overbred.

She's a vet nurse, licenced and her dogs were fully health tested... but none of this meant anything in the scheme of things.

I do get annoyed on here when people get do snotty about ALL breeders of doodles as there are some that do it properly. And if you're prepared to find 1 of the tiny percentage that do, they're generally fantastic dogs, depending on the mix of course.