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Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!

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YorkshireFelix · 26/11/2024 23:01

New thread to get us through the festive season! Angelic and naughty teenage pups all welcome Halo

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Nella68 · 09/01/2025 12:14

@YorkshireFelix hope the ice clears soon and you are able to get out.

I’ve not tried to teach middle- Midge is a bit too tall to fit under my legs. I’ll google to see how to do it with bigger dogs.

It’s a lovely sunny day and I found a quiet clearing in the woods where Midge could bounce around in the frost and I could hide. He was doing really well coming back when called and sitting in front- until another dog appeared, then he turned his ears off and and scarpered. It’s so frustrating. How on earth do I compete with another dog? Any ideas?

CoubousAndTourmalet · 09/01/2025 12:24

Have you tried Winter Trax @YorkshireFelix ? We live up a hill and we honestly couldn't cope without ours. I had to go for some blood tests yesterday and the local surgery's car park was like an ice rink, but I had Trax on my Grisport boots and I was fine.

Hopefully it will thaw soon so life can get back to normal until the next round of snow.

Hope Vinny is doing okay now.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 09/01/2025 12:36

I seem to have an outside working dog these days, not an indoor pet...

Not complaining though, she's a lovely girl.

Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!
YorkshireFelix · 09/01/2025 12:42

CoubousAndTourmalet · 09/01/2025 12:24

Have you tried Winter Trax @YorkshireFelix ? We live up a hill and we honestly couldn't cope without ours. I had to go for some blood tests yesterday and the local surgery's car park was like an ice rink, but I had Trax on my Grisport boots and I was fine.

Hopefully it will thaw soon so life can get back to normal until the next round of snow.

Hope Vinny is doing okay now.

I'm definitely going to buy us some for the next time it happens! My friend was telling me how she uses them and they are really good. I looked on Amazon last night in the hope I could get a next day delivery but it was all next week. Although I don't think anyone is getting deliveries at the minute anyway.

I've tied up some treats in a knotted tea towel so he's currently trying to work out how to get them out. It's been keeping him busy for ages!

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YorkshireFelix · 09/01/2025 12:45

Nella68 · 09/01/2025 12:14

@YorkshireFelix hope the ice clears soon and you are able to get out.

I’ve not tried to teach middle- Midge is a bit too tall to fit under my legs. I’ll google to see how to do it with bigger dogs.

It’s a lovely sunny day and I found a quiet clearing in the woods where Midge could bounce around in the frost and I could hide. He was doing really well coming back when called and sitting in front- until another dog appeared, then he turned his ears off and and scarpered. It’s so frustrating. How on earth do I compete with another dog? Any ideas?

It really is frustrating isn't it. All the advice I see is 'make yourself the most exciting/interesting thing for them' which I've been trying to do every since we brought Vinny home, but at the minute he is WAY more interested in having his nose to the ground and following scents. His ears switch off in the same way and nothing I do brings him back. We don't have much of an issue with being more interested other dogs yet but I'm sure it will happen eventually!

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YorkshireFelix · 09/01/2025 12:45

CoubousAndTourmalet · 09/01/2025 12:36

I seem to have an outside working dog these days, not an indoor pet...

Not complaining though, she's a lovely girl.

I love how all your photos this week have been her just happily chilling in the snow 🤣

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timeforachange999 · 09/01/2025 13:11

YorkshireFelix · 09/01/2025 12:45

It really is frustrating isn't it. All the advice I see is 'make yourself the most exciting/interesting thing for them' which I've been trying to do every since we brought Vinny home, but at the minute he is WAY more interested in having his nose to the ground and following scents. His ears switch off in the same way and nothing I do brings him back. We don't have much of an issue with being more interested other dogs yet but I'm sure it will happen eventually!

Same with my cavapoo. When you first let him off he runs off and doesn't come back when called. Usually he has to find some poo to eat before he comes back 😩We rarely let him off as he will run towards roads/ through the fence to the train track or up to other dogs/ owners who might have treats.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 09/01/2025 13:16

YorkshireFelix · 09/01/2025 12:45

I love how all your photos this week have been her just happily chilling in the snow 🤣

I know. That's all she's doing, she's loving it! I can't get her to come indoors.

She's been getting walks on the fields, but I'm too scared to take my phone out with me (to get a non-loafing photo of her) in case I fall over and break it. Funny how I'm not scared of falling over and breaking myself, just the phone....😆

Nella68 · 09/01/2025 13:32

@CoubousAndTourmalet Brie looks like she’s in her element. She must find the cold refreshing with that beautiful thick coat!

Midge isn’t a garden loafer, he’s too busy sniffing out cats and his favourite feast of all- cat poo. I have to take him out on his lead so he can sniff it out and I can pick it up before he gobbles it. Gross. The neighbourhood cats use our garden as their toilet and then sit on the shed roof or fence taunting Midge. Does anyone remember Roobarb and Custard? It’s just like that!

brushingboots · 09/01/2025 13:35

@YorkshireFelix Oh god poor you with the weather, that’s grim. And there was me whinging last night on a lead walk in the very low-level slippiness here.

Re making yourself more exciting than anything – I think it works up to a point. It is fairly unlikely that any of us will be more exciting to our dogs (especially gundogs, maybe Brie is exempt, @CoubousAndTourmalet) than, say, a pheasant, but the way I look at it, that doesn’t have to be a bad thing. If you know what will tempt them then you can work with it rather than against it. If hedge diving is what they want (and need) to do to be fulfilled, then go into/next to the hedge with them – control their movement with hand signals, stop them and sit them up, ask them to go back or left or right or whatever, but so that the reward and the game is still hedge diving and working with scent. Chuck some balls into the hedge etc for them to find. Then they get their hedge-diving box ticked and you get control, and they understand that spanielling is on your terms.

Today I took a rabbit ball out with me and chucked it behind me while she was ahead or side to side a few times, stopped her, turned her and asked her to find it. She was delighted! We did about five reps of that and then I put it away and praised her and off she went again to be (slightly) feral, but on my terms, listening to my directions and stopping when I stopped. We did loads of autosit today which I find builds engagement really well and gives them an easy win. I always like her to finish the walk feeling like she's the winner.

Full disclosure – save anything think pupsy is soon to be a FTCH (lol) – before we got to the rabbit ball part of the walk this morning she decided that she was going to go off a bit further than I was comfortable with in the field we were in. She ignored the whistle and my voice so instead of getting cross I walked away quite a distance (keeping her in sight) and properly hid behind a hay bale. She genuinely lost me when she came up for air after running around with her nose down and after she found me she was much, much more engaged, so I think sometimes injecting into them a tiny bit of fear of losing you is no bad thing.

tizwozliz · 09/01/2025 13:36

I'm quite enjoying the break from the mud with everything being frozen

brushingboots · 09/01/2025 13:38

And re other dogs, @Nella68, beyond what you’ve already done and are doing, I don’t know how else you make yourself more interesting than other dogs, except to say that I just worked on offlead heel loads when I was trying to crack it myself. I also accepted that it wouldn’t always work or that we would have to build up engagement slowly, so she’d manage a few paces of offlead heel focussed on me and then she’d get to play (if appropriate). So I guess I dealt with it like an impulse control exercise, but one that she always won (as above) It’s hard to say without seeing him (and his no doubt lovely face).

Now, pupsy only ever runs in on another dog if they are one of her three best friends (and with my human friends) and I really, really think a lot of it comes with age. She is far less interested in bum sniffs from other random dogs now than she used to be. Sometimes she’ll be running full pelt with her nose down and some random dog appears and she literally ignores them because she is on a scent and the scent trumps almost anything. I never thought I’d get to that point but it really did just evolve as she got older and realised that most dogs aren’t particularly good news.

brushingboots · 09/01/2025 13:41

@tizwozliz Me too! It's dry, sunny, and mud-free. I don't even mind the cold but I can't bear the evening walks on slippy pavements when I've got no choice as it's too dark for the fields.

brushingboots · 09/01/2025 13:41

@CoubousAndTourmalet What a gorgeous girl!! She looks so content with life. I wish I was half as content as Brie.

Nella68 · 09/01/2025 13:54

@brushingboots thanks for the tips. Remind me how old is your pups?

Midge is 11 months and I have noticed over the last couple of weeks he is less inclined to jump up on random people, but still will if they look at him and talk with a squeaky ‘aren’t you cute’ voice. He’s not so cute when he puts his muddy paws on their clean coats!

We had to get some more kibble from our local pet store. He’s normally a nightmare with all the dried animal parts at dog nose level, but today he managed to sit and wait whilst I filled a basket. He did then manage to blot his copybook by diving for an antler and made the display crash to the floor. I was pleased though that he did show some control- brief as it was!

CoubousAndTourmalet · 09/01/2025 13:57

Nella68 · 09/01/2025 13:32

@CoubousAndTourmalet Brie looks like she’s in her element. She must find the cold refreshing with that beautiful thick coat!

Midge isn’t a garden loafer, he’s too busy sniffing out cats and his favourite feast of all- cat poo. I have to take him out on his lead so he can sniff it out and I can pick it up before he gobbles it. Gross. The neighbourhood cats use our garden as their toilet and then sit on the shed roof or fence taunting Midge. Does anyone remember Roobarb and Custard? It’s just like that!

I remember Roobarb & Custard as much for the weirdly grating music as anything else... Poor Midge being tormented like that and what dog doesn't find cat poo irresistible? Ours have been know to shove their head in the litter tray while the cat is still in there before now 😬It isn't good if the local cats are using your garden though, I can understand why it's annoying for a lot of people.

I'm just letting Brie lie out, she's very quiet and we're securely fenced with 6ft chainlink so she can't come to any harm. They're double coated so summer will be a struggle for her even if she sheds the undercoat. She's really happy right now though.

brushingboots · 09/01/2025 14:03

@Nella68 She’s 19 months. She had her season at 10 months ish, was spayed last summer, and after that she really grew up. I know it can be different for boys but I am convinced age has a lot to do with it. Not jumping up so much is progress! They have so much going through their tiny minds at his age and it must be really overwhelming.

Bless him! Impulse control is hard but he’ll get there. We have had similar incidents in dog shops and I have had to buy a fair few extra things that she has ‘dropped’ into my basket. I am quite a taskmaster here and I do make her sit around and wait a lot as for a cocker sitting quietly is the enemy of progress. It’s made a huge difference in many ways but it has also slightly killed her belief in retrieving so it’s swings and roundabouts.

Bupster · 09/01/2025 14:15

Actually @Nella68 and @brushingboots , now you come to mention it, Bill is getting much better with new dogs too and I also think it's age. He's simply not quite as interested, and is quite capable of ignoring a new dog entirely once they've had a brief introduction, even in the boring dog park. If he's scenting something, a dog could be sitting on his head and he'd not notice.

I was getting a bit of an imposter syndrome about coping with Bill as his hormones come in and his prey drive develops, but then I met a bloke this morning walking his rescue Brittany spaniel, who he never lets off the lead as the second time he did, the dog scarpered for ages, then the time after that dived in a hedge and brought out a pheasant in his mouth, then after that managed to catch a pigeon in the air 😳

Bill also was (marginally) better than his bestie at a sit/stay in the dog park this morning and I will take every tiny victory 😄. He's not getting much of anything today bar looking out the window and going for short scampers around the dog park as it was -4 at 8am, and hasn't got much warmer. He doesn't give a monkeys but I feel like that makes it worse as he won't even notice that he's too cold, let alone tell me.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 09/01/2025 14:49

She's a proper Pyrie now @brushingboots They've all been like this, they're really calm and content at home. I've always pretty much let them do their own thing and they've been no trouble. I've been very lucky to share my life with them.

Nella68 · 09/01/2025 18:48

Sometimes words fail me…
www.pets4homes.co.uk/classifieds/52vyvverl-2-boys-and-2-girls-evesham/

CoubousAndTourmalet · 09/01/2025 19:14

Nella68 · 09/01/2025 18:48

That's horrifying 😢
Things really need to change regarding dog breeding.

brushingboots · 09/01/2025 19:15

What was it? It had gone by the time I looked

YorkshireFelix · 09/01/2025 19:24

Nella68 · 09/01/2025 18:48

I can't even make sense of that description!! The sad thing is someone will happily buy one and then cycle continues...

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Nella68 · 09/01/2025 19:42

As far as I can tell the owners bought two dogs because their sons were spending too much time online. The puppies then mated at about 10/ 11 months old (sounds like there was no attempt to keep them separated) and had a litter of 5 puppies. Each on sale for £950.

Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!
Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!
Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!
Bupster · 09/01/2025 19:57

Absolutely insane. I do sometimes wonder if we should actually bring back dog licences.

In other, Too Much Information news, Bill hasn't pooed out in the garden in the dark since he was startled by a firework back in November. I really wasn't looking forward to this evening's trek to the dog park in minus ouch. But tonight,(classically, as soon as I sat down for dinner) he actually asked to go out the back! Didn't even indicate for a trip out the front to the park! I am so proud of him and so desperately glad I don't now have to put on eighteen layers - I'm already wearing about 14 layers in the house. I need to dress like Brie 😄@CoubousAndTourmalet