To take away water from puppy at night?

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We're picking up a chihuahua puppy in a few days. We are going to crate train so have got her a crate for downstairs and a crate for the bedroom. The downstairs crate has plenty of room for her bed and a water bowl but not much else.

The bedroom crate due to the size of the bed only has enough room for her bed and blanket. Is that okay or do we need to make space for water? Never had a puppy before so not sure of the correct way to do this. Getting different info on Google.

Have attached the picture of nighttime crate.

Thank you.

My dog had access to water in his crate. Crates are a newish concept, dogs didn’t used to be confined in crates.

That crate is far too small you need at least double that.Im an owner of Chihuahuas and they need room to move around to use a puppy pad.

Why don't you get a hamster instead?

Already got one hunny

they need room to move around to use a puppy pad.

I disagree. The crate is for sleeping. Our puppy whined a couple of times to be let out for a wee during the first week, then lasted comfortably all night. If we'd given him room for a pad surely you then have to teach them not to use it at night?? Not sure how...

The whole point is that they don't go in the crate

Also it isn't seen as best practice as puppy pads at all?

I’m not a huge fan of puppy pads especially during the day. I find it encourages them to go inside when you want to discourage it. They’re also fun for a puppy to shred!

For those who don’t want to use a crate and don’t have access to a small and safe confined place e.g. a utility room, a big playpen is a good compromise. You can attach a water bowl so they have access to water and they can have vet bed or a bed and blankets. I put a puppy pad in the corner of the playpen overnight for emergencies but set my alarm regularly to take pup outside. The pad is useful as sometimes they hear you get up to take them outside and then get overexcited and pee before you get them out.

I have a 16 wk old miniature dachshund and I use a crate overnight.

so the crate size is fine, it’s the bed, utterly ridiculous. You just need a bit of vet bed from pets at home and Amazon and loads of cheap £5 blankets from somewhere like Asda. You also need to cover the crate - again just a throw type blanket from Asda etc is absolutely fine.

we don’t put water in our crate at night, but she goes in at 11pm and wakes at 5.30am and we take her out for a wee. She happily goes in and settles to go to sleep. And it’s only whilst she’s a baby and can’t be trusted not to get herself in trouble.

but that bed is too big for that crate. You just need vet bed and some cheapie blankets

Day two with our little pub and we are not crate training her.

My 12 week old pup is crate trained and doesnt get water in his crate during the night, pups cant hold their bladder for long so filling up on water through the night is asking for trouble. All advice on the internet is not to put water in their crates, a healthy dog wont die from not drinking water from 10-11pm till 6am, 4 weeks ive done this and he's still alive and kicking

I mean, not killing them is a pretty low bar for welfare tbh.

Actually advice is to allow access to water at all times. Pups need to drink. If they need to wee at night then you get up. That’s what you sign up for when you get a puppy.

@Wolfiefan

@Canyouanswermyquestion a random quote from an unnamed website doesn’t constitute decent advice. No decent trainer, vet, puppy advice book, forum or breeder would advise denying a dog water.
puppies may require going out to wee in the night.

letting a puppy get dehydrated so you don’t have to take them out overnight is a terrible idea, it’s not even usually for more than a couple of weeks you need to get up for them.

even the RSPCA who aren’t exactly great at reacting to dog welfare issues count no access to water as one of the few things they will in fact go out and check a dog for.

Genuinely but do Do puppies actually drink much overnight? I’ve had a number of dogs and can’t think of any big drinkers.
I guess mine could have take a few sips and I’ve never noticed but otherwise, I wake up to the same amount of water that I’ve put down the night before.
I have a camera and motion sensor and my lazy git of a puppy does not get out of his bed at all until he hears my footsteps. Perhaps he’ll drink more as we get into warmer weather.

Mine is raw fed and doesn't drink water during the night. He has a water bill right by his crate but doesn't come out for a drink. If I put it inside the crate he spills it and then moans about his wet bed, so I leave it next to the crate.

This ^^
Our beautiful boy has at least one good drink of water in the night - we know this because he sleeps in the bedroom, on a lovely comfy bed, not in a crate.

A dog cannot tell you that he is thirsty, so if he doesn't have water available he could potentially suffer all night. I wish 8 hours, in daylight, in the Sahara, without water, for anyone who doesn't leave their dog with fresh water at all times!

A dog cannot tell you that he is thirsty, so if he doesn't have water available he could potentially suffer all night. I wish 8 hours, in daylight, in the Sahara, without water, for anyone who doesn't leave their dog with fresh water at all times!

This x100

This.

Don't want to get your rump out of bed, don't get a dog.

Alive isn't necessarily comfortable or well cared for.

So the crate door is open, and he has water available to him at all times? You are not one of the ones we are worried about, you are doing great!

Where did you find that wonderful bit of advice then? You do know don't you that just because something is written down it doesn't necessarily make it right?

" All the advice on the internet" ??
You have honestly looked at ALL the advice on the Internet, and all of it is to not leave water in their crates?

I don't think I am allowed to accuse you of lying on Mumsnet
@Canyouanswermyquestion
but guess what, I am anyway. Because no-one can have looked at all the advice on the Internet about it, except maybe someone doing a thesis, who can spend months looking in obscure places for such information! And, even if all the advice did say to leave a dog of any age, locked in a crate all night without water, that advice would be WRONG. I would stake my life on that - I am not exaggerating here - it is a hill that I am willing to die on.

I cannot stand the thought of any animal suffering, but particularly dogs. They have spent thousands of years giving us unconditional love and loyalty, and to repay that by making them suffer, just so that we don't have to get out of bed at night, or just so that we don't come home to chewed furniture etc, breaks my heart.

If you can't dedicate time, effort, and your own uncomfortability (at times) to your dog, then don't have them. It is also probably a good idea not to have babies either, as they are much harder work, and for much longer.

By the way, in the above paragraph the "you" wasn't directed at any one person, it was for everyone who fits that particular bill.

This thread is hilarious. Your pup will love that cosy bedtime safe space. We don't put water in our dog's crate anymore because we no longer shut the door.

He has free run of the house and oddly chooses to sleep in his cosy crate. He rarely gets up at night. He bloody loves sleeping on there.

Good thinking to have a clip on bowl for now though.

The absolutely batshit hysteria on mumsnet about dogs never fails to amuse me. According to many threads, dog's should never be left alone for even one minute and need at least 2 x 1 hour walks a day, preferably more. 🙃