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Puppy survival thread. Cold nights in the garden ... yeah...no

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MakeMeCleanTheHouse · 26/09/2021 04:07

The foghorn is sounding frequently and I suspect that's why I'm up enjoying the ambience of a foggy garden at 4am.

Hoping @BaconandAvocado is fast asleep and all the others with wide awake pups.

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Aria20 · 10/10/2021 17:16

Mine also prefers not to eat in bowl. She has wet food in kong or on lick mat and kibble either in snuffle mat, inside a ball that dispenses them, in a plastic bottle or cardboard box/tube, inside a hollow buffalo horn or her toy slipper etc. Mainly only give it in a bowl if it's sardines as don't want the smell/mess elsewhere!

MsAwesomeDragon · 10/10/2021 19:08

AwesomePup is getting most of his food in a bowl at the minute because rice is a complete pain to give in any other way. He's getting bits of chicken as treats for training and walks. I can't wait til we can get back to kibble for playing games, scatter feeding and snuffle mats. Those things tire him out as well as being fun for him.

I think I might have over walked him this afternoon. I'm just so happy that he's feeling better and he was having so much fun running around. We went down to the river and he ran straight in, then looked a bit panicked as it was deeper than he expected and ran back to me. He was on his long line so I could have got him back if he needed help. He did go back in, trying to catch a duck.

tizwozliz · 10/10/2021 19:27

No after effects so far after pup's butter thievery, although not sure if could still be to come.

Ada normally has half her food in a bowl (often with something wet on top like fish or yoghurt), then a mix of scatter feeding, kongs, puzzle feeder, lickimats for the rest. We've got a couple of kibble dispensing toys but she tends to bark at them which isn't quite the right idea!

MakeMeCleanTheHouse · 10/10/2021 19:33

@Jinnybean I'm so sorry for your loss. Such a difficult time to be juggling a needy pup. Gorgeous they are... but also needy

Makemepup has learned to back at anything dispensing food (me or toy) so I'm discouraging it

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GuyFawkesDay · 10/10/2021 20:33

@MakeMeCleanTheHouse the duck toy is really solid. The shop I got it from is great, he's very much a decent quality over prices. Raw food/high quality non raw, gundog training bits, ruff & tumble coats etc. The toy is probably the most sturdy one we have that's not a ball or rope.

Nahhh · 10/10/2021 21:07

I’m very new here but thank you to whoever suggested cuddles in between repeated toilet trips this morning. Little pup has had a successful day with toileting in the garden.

Does anyone have any suggestions for toys for teenie tiny puppies. Little pup is only 0.7kg, some puppy toys seem bigger than him!

Returnoftheowl · 10/10/2021 21:22

@LadyCatStark

Sorry to hear about your loss *@Jinnybean*.

Is anyone else still finding the whole meeting other dogs etiquette really hard to fathom? I always recall Billy and put him on his lead as soon as I spot another dog as he’s such a dog’s dog and just wants to play but then the other owner puts their dog on a lead and moves away from us. They’re only doing it put of courtesy but then Billy misses out on an interaction/ play time that he could have had. This happened yesterday and Billy sat and refused to move so I shouted over is it ok to say hello and it was so we went over and Billy had a lovely play with another lab and I had a lovely chat with with owner. I explained that I never know the etiquette and she said that she’d only moved away as I’d put Billy on his lead incase he was scared 🙈. He’d really have missed out if we hadn’t have gone over and so would I! The day before another lab came up and the owner was having a chat at the other end of the field and didn’t even notice his dog and then later on another dog came over and I tried to ask the owner if they could play but she didn’t speak enough English so she also called her dog away because Billy was on his lead 🙈. It seems like a whole minefield of unwritten rules!

I walk mine on a lead (as I don't trust him to recall just yet), but I've assumed the rule is if a dog is on a lead you don't let your dog approach it.
Goawayangryman · 10/10/2021 21:42

@Jinnybean I'm so sorry for your loss. It must be a hard time.

I don't know what to suggest for a pup less than a kilo. So cute. Maybe really tiny soft toys or things with flappy labels on? Or a small rope toy? Mine loved toothbrushes for supervised play. Liked the spiky brushy texture. But she was 7 times as heavy as yours at the same age 😬.

Goawayangryman · 10/10/2021 21:43

I sort of presumed that if your dog is off lead then the owner is reasonably confident that their dog is ok with other dogs. But if on lead, you ask if ok to greet and don't let your off-lead dog approach them?

Goawayangryman · 10/10/2021 21:44

As in any owner with an off lead dog is confident. Sorry, wasn't very clear.

LadyCatStark · 10/10/2021 22:18

@Returnoftheowl and @Goawayangryman, that’s the trouble, I put Billy on his lead out of courtesy to the other owner but I do want them to let their dog play with him. So I’m inadvertently giving off “stay away” vibes which is the opposite of what I want 😂. I need like a “please come and play with us” lead or something!

Aria20 · 11/10/2021 07:26

@LadyCatStark I've seen dogs wearing harness or bandana type things that say "I'm friendly"

tizwozliz · 11/10/2021 07:42

Think pup has kennel cough, she's been coughing followed by retching intermittently all night. Otherwise happy as larry but I'm exhausted! Waiting for the vets to open...

sandwiches77 · 11/10/2021 08:16

LadyCatStark I assume if dog is off lead then owner is happy for their dog to play with sandwichpup but I do ask the owner if I can (sandwichpup does charge off to play with dogs before I can ask, but I try to ask when I can) I assume any dog on their lead means that the owner doesn't want them to be played with, maybe nervous or injured.
We have bumped into the same dog on our walks a few times so sandwichpup and I both know they are OK to play with. Seems the dog walking community are a friendly bunch near us and know each other

MakeMeCleanTheHouse · 11/10/2021 08:40

Sounds like K cough @tizwozliz

@LadyCatStark I view dog etiquette as not letting your dog approach another dog unless the manner of approach is reciprocal.

So on lead: if they move towards one another and the owner doesn't stop it...rock on.

Off lead I still think there is still etiquette but under doggie control and this is the bit dogs need help to learn. So if a dog is indicating playful behaviour...rock on. But if like my terrier they are ignoring your dog which then continues to chase her or get into her space you need to call your dog away. This is the really hard behaviour to train and I think a longline is essential unless their recall is solid.

My terrier is scared of big dogs and will happily run off lead, playing on her own. If a dog approaches she will ignore, divert direction and generally avoid. If they don't leave her alone I recall but big dog is then chasing her and she gets more scared. She eventually turns around and has a snap at them. The vast majority of owners understand this is OK as without their dog bothering her nothing would happen. It worries me however because one day a big dog might then retaliate and my 6kg terrier could be mauled.

So recall is your answer. As long as you can recall your dog if they are bothering another let them off lead.

The bit about learning this is done on lead on sight of other dogs. So their initial reaction is to turn to you rather than overflow with "ooooh dog lets play" excitement

Last night on the beach a big dog headed aggressively straight at us. (My two off lead but mooching close to me) I immediately scoop littleun up as I know she will launch into defend panic and the other dog would probably kill her. Big un I'm just keeping hold of so I can manage the situation. The other dog recalled immediately.

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LadyCatStark · 11/10/2021 09:09

Recall is hit and miss around other dogs. It used to be perfect but he’s coming into the teenager phase and to be fair I don’t really give him the chance anymore after a bad experience with an angry lady. I have no issue with recalling him while the other dog is far away and putting his lead in but I wish that didn’t mean the other owner does the same, even though they’re only doing it out of courtesy.

I’ve seen those friendly leads in pets at home but our fields are so big the other owner probably wouldn’t be able to see it from far away. I think I need a big neon sign!

He is super friendly and never in the slightest bit aggressive but he’s big and black and I understand that it would be scary if he came bounding towards you. I avoid small dogs anyway, even when he’s on his lead as I’m so aware that he looks big and scary.

tizwozliz · 11/10/2021 09:31

Vet doesn't think it's necessary to see her, treat as if kennel cough and call back if anything changes. She's just had a bit of honey in water and I've ordered her a Nina Ottosson puzzle as a get well present as we won't be out walking for a while.

TheBigMacDougal · 11/10/2021 09:34

@Jinnybean so sorry for your loss. I hope cute puppy cuddles are some help.

Re seeing other dogs, I put Mac on lead as I know he will bomb off to play with them before I get close enough to ask. He has come back once they’ve had a play and said hello though. Our trainer suggests they only meet/play with 1 in 3 so you avoid creating a frustrated greeter, and they always have to check in with you before they can play or say hello. I find that around here even if he is on lead and so is the other dog, other owners will allow theirs to say hello while I’m trying to get Mac not to 🤦🏼‍♀️ I therefore like fields where we don’t meet many others 😆

MakeMeCleanTheHouse · 11/10/2021 11:06

@LadyCatStark my description was 'in a perfect world' My terrier will occasionally go off piste and sniff another dog even though normally she won't. Big'un is very keen on being with littl'un so doesn't at the moment seem overly interested in other dogs however I know that is coming. I walk off lead A LOT and don't relish having to recall if he's being an arse. This morning we met a cockapoo who wanted to play. All good so I released the tension of lead for the beast and he joyously bounded over, jumped and dropped a huge great paw on poor cockapoo who yelped and ran 😞😳 Owner made a big deal of it 😒

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BaconAndAvocado · 11/10/2021 11:45

Newboy still on lead at all times on walks.
He loves every single dog and human we meet so I always ask if they're ok to be jumped on first!
Just got back from the beach where we met the most lovely and gentle Great Dane 💕Newboy tried to jump on top of her 😂😂

Aria20 · 11/10/2021 12:36

@BaconAndAvocado hahaha I can imagine my pup trying to do that too, she loves leap frogging over other dogs!

Aria20 · 11/10/2021 12:42

I'm having a challenging day here! My 3yo is off nursery with a constant cough but negative for covid. So could only take pup for a very short 15 min walk on lead around nature trail before dd was coughing again and we had to go home so pup hasn't slept as long as she normally would obviously and now wants attention too... I'm supposed to be working but not getting much done as dd keeps talking to me or asking for tissues/snacks etc. Tonight I'm taking my middle son to look at a secondary school so can't work then or walk dog then. Really bad timing for dd to be off sick as got another school to look at tomo morning so DH going to try work at home to watch dd. But means pup not getting her usual walks/attention, going to have to get my oldest to take dog out when he's home from school but until then she's had 2 kongs, lick mat, puzzle feeder toy lol she's now destroying another soft toy despite having various more suitable chews scattered around!

bargelights · 11/10/2021 14:06

That sounds like a lot to juggle, @Aria20. Sending strength vibes to you.

My puppy is desperate to play with other dogs but he hasn’t quite mastered proper doggy manners. He tends to just hurl himself at any dog that approaches, which is generally not appreciated! We have had two play dates with a friend’s dogs. The first one went brilliantly, but the second time I think our pup was too rough for one of the dogs who just refused to play with him. The other dog was happy to play, though. I really hope to get him into daycare soon for socialisation purposes.

BaconAndAvocado · 11/10/2021 15:52

Aria20
How's things now? Hope you're ok. Your day does sound crazy.
Sometimes everything seems to hit you at once doesn't it?
Does your pup go to bed at a civilised hour?
Think about that and the very large glass of wine you can have 😊

MakeMeCleanTheHouse · 11/10/2021 16:46

@aria20 that sounds hard work. I felt a bit like that last week. Pup needs far more but I was too busy or exhausted...= badly behaved pup...then I'm too exhausted...vicious circle.

Makeme is just a very big pup and unaware of his own clumsy size so playing with other dogs isn't that successful

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