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Here’s my lifestyle; what breeds should I consider?

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BaoWow · 22/08/2021 21:53

I’m an experienced dog owner and, after the passing of our dog at a ripe old age a while ago, I’m beginning to start thinking about adding a new pooch to the family. Currently we have no dogs, for the first time in my life.

Our last dog was very clingy and didn’t like other dogs around and I don’t want to go through that again so the plan is to get a dog at some stage, and then add another after maybe a year. She wasn’t reactive, but just didn’t interact with other dogs at all and just wanted to be glued to us every time another dog was near her.

I’ve always had pedigree dogs and wouldn’t rule out a rescue at all, but would prefer a clear mix rather than a Heinz 57 so that I have some idea of what to expect. Realistically though, I think it’s likely we’ll look at a puppy from a breeder. I’ve bought from breeders before, know how to do my homework, and am prepared to wait for a puppy. That said, if there was a rescue that was quite young and a known cross, I’d very happily consider it.

My past dogs have been German Shepherds, Old English Sheepdogs, Border Collies, Cocker Spaniels, and Cavalier King Charles. To be fair, I’ve been lucky with all of them and haven’t lost any to anything other than old age- one had cancer but surgery was successful. Bloat was always a risk with the OES but raised bowls and limiting drinks appropriately meant we didn’t have any issues.
The GS, Cocker, and Collie needed a lot of exercise but I’m not in a position to give a dog that must activity these days.

I would love a giant breed but don’t think I could face getting something like a Newfie or St. Bernard that has such a short life expectancy.

We live in a large house with a very large, secure garden. Our dogs have always lived indoors but there’s lots of outdoor space. We both work from home full time, but would need a breed that’s happy to be alone for up to four hours twice a week, once it’s past the puppy stage.

We don’t have any children in the house, but have a cat.

We live close to a primary school. There’s a high wall and electric gates at the front of the house that’s additionally secured with wire between the bars etc so I’m not concerned about a dog getting out, or little hands getting in, but I am concerned about the perception of certain breeds and drawing any trouble given that there’s a school so close.

Our lifestyle is pretty sedentary. Plenty of time for playing, grooming, and training, but exercise is likely to be 2 x gentle 30min walks each day, plus as many garden zoomies as they fancy.

Not bothered by drool.
Have the ability to manage high costs- food, insurance, vet care, grooming etc.
My husband and I are both very tall and sturdy Grin so wouldn’t be concerned about a well-behaved large dog being too much for us to handle.

We tend to bring our dogs out and about with us a lot- village strolls, local cafe, occasional pub, weekend trips away. I don’t want to be in a position where I’m scaring people. Would also like something that’s happy to be in the car.

Breeds I’ve considers are-
Old English Sheepdog- again. I just love them. The last one absolutely broke my heart, though.
Bernese Mountain Dog, St. Bernard, Irish Wolfhound or Newfie- gorgeous but too short-lived
Leonberger- beautiful, but the only one I knew was horrendously stubborn.
Pyrenean Mastiff- have never met one but they sound interesting. But I am concerned about their guarding instinct so close to a school.

Outside of large/giant, a medium or small is also a consideration.
Thinking maybe a Corgi but have never met one, just like the look of the breed and what I’ve read about the temperament.
Australian Shepherd- don’t think I’d be able to offer it enough in terms of exercise.

So, if you were me, and wanted another great big ball of a fluffy couch-potato to love with the lifestyle above, what would you consider?

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Berkeys · 22/08/2021 23:47

Rescue mongrel.

Strokethefurrywall · 22/08/2021 23:48

My dream dog is a Leonberger so I’d be no help. I have a smaller version of one now, although he is a mix breed sheep/retriever with a double coat so hair everywhere!

If I move off this tropical island I’m on, I’d have one in a heartbeat!
Other than that, a Bernese and don’t they have slightly longer lifespans than Leo’s/newfs/Saints?

LitCrit · 22/08/2021 23:49

Goldendoodle with standard poodle parent. They need an hour a day, regular grooming, great with cats, owner focused, smart, soppy, completely adorable, like the perfect mutty mongrel.

LitCrit · 22/08/2021 23:51

Meant to say - standard size is big enough to feel like a big dog (ours is a medium and I think perfect but I know what you mean about big dog love )

pinkhousesarebest · 23/08/2021 00:03

My friend is on to her second Australian Shepherd.Stunning dogs and seem to be happy pottering around th house and garden. Excellent with dcs and super quick to learn.

BaoWow · 23/08/2021 00:15

@Hairyfairy01

How about a French mastiff / dogue de Bordeaux? I had one years ago. Was a lovely dog but quite drooly. Never barked either.
Stunning dogs but I’d be worried given we’re so close to the primary school.

Last thing I need is someone freaking out because they don’t know it’s a very gentle breed, but assume it’s aggressive due to appearance.

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tabulahrasa · 23/08/2021 00:19

“I am concerned about the perception of certain breeds and drawing any trouble given that there’s a school so close.”

“We tend to bring our dogs out and about with us a lot- village strolls, local cafe, occasional pub, weekend trips away. I don’t want to be in a position where I’m scaring people.”

If that’s an important thing... you don’t want a giant breed. While yes, there are a few breeds lots of people are funny about, IME non dog people mostly go by size, larger dogs are scarier.

Howmanysleepsnow · 23/08/2021 00:47

Leonbergers meet all your criteria easily!
I have one and she’s very eager to please and not in the least bit stubborn (though she’s only 9 months so that may change) and neither were her mum and dad. I’ve only met one other and he was equally well behaved.

Mantlemoose · 23/08/2021 00:54

Greyhound sounds ideal for you, you could get it a fluffy jumper for comfort cuddles! I see someone suggested a Rough Collie. I have one. Very highly strung, vocal and quite nervy. I wouldn't have another.

Selok · 23/08/2021 01:17

Maltese Shih Zhu cross Malshi, they are brilliant, lovely companion dogs. Mine is my shadow 😂 she is small but has a heart of the world

Here’s my lifestyle; what breeds should I consider?
Floralnomad · 23/08/2021 01:23

Clumber spaniel , not large height wise but very chunky and always look like they would enjoy a nice cuddle .

WideOpenSpaces · 23/08/2021 01:34

Lab. I always thought labs were dull, but recently added one to the brood and I now understand why they're the nation's most popular breed. Just a big hunk of love

Guineapigbridge · 23/08/2021 01:44

I'll always say schnauzer. Two schnauzers, even better.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 23/08/2021 02:11

Rough collie
Standard poodle
If you can accept short hair: Basset Hound

LoveFall · 23/08/2021 02:26

I am a poodle lover. They are so smart and trainable, plus devoted to their family. I would find a standard very big, but a miniature is a lovely size.

They don't shed, but do need grooming.

Leonberger · 23/08/2021 07:33

We have leonberger and they are amazing Grin

None of mine are stubborn. I’ve actually found them very easy to train. They are hugely food motivated and want to be with you all of the time so as long as it involves their people and a treat they are up for it.
They aren’t as enthusiastic as say a GSD about training but they will do anything I ask!
For context, my Leo’s have competed in competitive obedience and have all of the KC certs so can’t be that stubborn surely Grin

Excersise wise mine get about 20-30mins morning and night. They will quite happily walk all day though but at no great speed. They run in short bursts and then prefer bumbling along sniffing rather than walking with purpose. They will play fetch etc for a short time!
Mine spend most of the time lying around the garden being nosy, they don’t really spend that much time running about. In the house they sleep and then sleep some more but they are big softies and want cuddles as much as possible.
They have no issue being left and are quite happy to take themselves off to another room or sit outside by themselves without constant supervision. Mine actively choose to sleep downstairs for example but technically could sleep with me, they like to be with you but they aren’t needy.

With regards to people being frightened of large dogs I haven’t found this at all. Mine are people magnets from old ladies to tiny children and they love the fuss from all. They holiday all over the UK and have never been refused in anywhere. They are a quiet non barking breed (as in I've got one I’ve never even heard!) that love lounging around people watching so I think most people find them non offensive. There’s a huge difference if I take my GSD out to one of the Leo’s with regards to reactions from the public. You would be stopped a lot though because everyone wants to ask about or stroke them which can get tedious at times. I suppose the size makes them intimidating to a point however i would say 95% of people are interested and want to ask questions compared to the vast majority giving my GSD a wide berth. They would not stop me getting burgled that’s for sure as anyone who comes is welcomed in.

They have no prey drive, mine stood on a wild bird a few days ago and kept walking. We have cats and they don’t acknowledge them either in the house or if they meet one outside. I’ve never had an issue with farm animals, sheep, rabbits etc. I know lots of Leo’s that live on small holdings again no drive whatsoever. I think like many breeds if you don’t socialise them right you could have an issue but I’ve never heard of it personally.

There are negatives but the positives for me outweigh all of that. Like all giants they don’t live as long as small dogs but the breed average is somewhere around 10 or so and health testing is pushed strongly by almost every breeder, it’s very hard to get a badly bred one as the breed is so close knit. It did worry me at first but having lost a couple of dogs very young that were ‘supposed’ to live a long time I realised nothing is guaranteed.
They do need a lot of grooming, plus the obvious size issues with transport etc.

OldTinHat · 23/08/2021 08:00

A staffie. Beautiful personality and very easy going.

AlexaIWillNeverSayDucking · 23/08/2021 08:20

Wheaten terrier or a Bedlington Whippet cross.

It sounds like it will have a lovely life with you, whatever you choose. Good luck.

Jinnybean · 23/08/2021 08:48

Golden retriever!

wetotter · 23/08/2021 08:51

I was just going to suggest wheaten terriers as well!

The leonburgers I have known have been lovely dogs, so if big and hairy is your dream, then don't rule them out.

You could try a deerhound, an Irish wolfhound, or perhaps an Afghan hound (tall but folds up small like a greyhound, also should be OK on one walk a day)

All the corgis I know tend to nip ankles - they're not being nasty, just rounding you up.

Do have a look at the vulnerable and at watch native breeds list

www.thekennelclub.org.uk/getting-a-dog/are-you-ready/vulnerable-native-breeds/

Old English Sheepdog has gone from at watch to vulnerable (fewer than 300 puppies registered a year)

I think puppy might be best, so you can train them yourselves to be cat proof. Vulnerable native breeds tend to be produced by breed enthusiasts, who might be occasional home breeders, but are not puppy farming or breeding recklessly

Grinch48 · 23/08/2021 08:51

It’s really lovely to hear your thinking of what dogs will fit in with your lifestyle rather than just picking a dog you like
It’s something I often say to people if they ask me about getting dogs- pick a dog that suits your lifestyle
So many people get a dog for it’s looks or because it’s “dog of the moment “ rather than one that fits with their lifestyle
I do have the “ dog of the moment “ 😂 a french bulldog who is absolutely bat shit crazy but he does fit in with our lifestyle
My brother in law has 3 Douge De Bordeauxs and they are the laziest chilled out dogs I’ve ever met but you do need to get a good example of the breed as otherwise you can get lots of health problems they don’t live long either 6 -7 is average but my brothers eldest one is 10

GuyFawkesDay · 23/08/2021 08:54

I know someone with a Newfie X standard poodle. He is a gorgeous big teddy bear. Newfies have the most adorable temperament but the poodle addition makes this one a bit more manageable coat wise and slobber as he's not got the Newfie "chops". Would probably increase longevity too.

Grinch48 · 23/08/2021 08:57

Oh and french mastiffs / DDBs are excellent with kids
They don’t need lots of walks either - they are definitely a lazy mans dogs

My BIL says if he had a pound for everyone who stops him to ask about his DDB he would have a decent house deposit 😂 they are traffic stoppers as people remember them from the film Turner and Hooch but rarely see them out and about
Oh and what’s d

But they do need lots of socialisation with other dogs as puppy’s and good training
Oh and whatever dog you get check insurance first
My Frenchie had7k lifetime and it’s £48 a month
My BIL pays 69 for the same dog same company and same city and he has 3 😂
Big dogs are expensive to insure
I’m with Bought By Many and they are excellent insurers

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 23/08/2021 09:22

Agree with PP that (English) pointers need a lot of exercise - free running is their thing but their recall can be very ropey. Delightful dogs, though - I have a very soft spot for them.

IME the continental pointing breeds are easier to recall, but need plenty of exercise and mental activity to keep them chilled and contented.

Dogue de Bordeaux - vey low life expectancy.

Golden retriever? Working line ones would probably need too much exercise but GRs have mostly been bred for as pets for a long time.

Deerhound (life expectancy not great but not terrible either)?

Lurcher of a known cross? The snag with those is that the ones with a known ancestry have often been deliberately bred to work on fox or rabbits (or for illegal hare coursing) so have a lot of prey drive. If you're prepared to work with that, they're usually lovely chilled house dogs and very affectionate (if a bit boney as they cuddle in).

Farevalah · 23/08/2021 09:30

Bearded collie?
Beautiful dogs that are fluffy, playful and smart, ours is like a smaller version of OES. It's an unspoilt breed and they are fairly hardy, life expectancy 12-15 years. Sadly an increasingly vulnerable native breed, which is a shame as they're wonderful all round.

Downsides - none!!!! (Apart from hair everywhere in the house - not a dog for neat freaks 😂)