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Where does your dog sleep?

146 replies

kissmelittleass · 23/06/2021 02:19

Getting a rescue dog this week our first time to have a dog and wondering where you all let your dogs sleep? And if you enclose the dog in a playpen?
I only know one dog owner and she uses a type of playpen with the dogs bed in the middle and shuts the dog in at night time, the dog sleeps in a spare room downstairs .
Do any of you use playpens at night to stop the dogs wondering about?

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Greytminds · 24/06/2021 11:45

@noblegreenk

I've got a greyhound and when we first adopted her she slept downstairs on her bed in the living room. She didn't know how to use stairs anyway. After about 4 months we took her on holiday with us to a seaside town where there were a lot of outdoor stone stairways, so she learnt how to use stairs there. Once we came back home, she refused to stay downstairs at night time and now has a second bed on our bedroom floor. She has also commandeered the spare bed as her own in the daytime!
This was exactly our experience with a retired greyhound!! I miss the padding of her paws up the stairs.
Medievalist · 24/06/2021 12:03

@Lightswitchesoffatnight

One more go.

Cages create a culture where it's considered acceptable to lock dogs up.

This makes it easier for dogs to fit in with their owners' lifestyle. People who might otherwise think twice about getting a dog and really shouldn't have one. People like the woman referred to in the previous post. People who are all too common sadly.

This encourages people who are out of the house for long periods / can't be bothered to put effort into housetraining etc to get a dog. Because they not going to come home to a wrecked house.

This means more demand for dogs which means more unscrupulous breeders.

Do you know 'crate training' is illegal in Finland and Sweden?

HeartvsBrain · 24/06/2021 12:33

Our wonderful, but sadly long since departed, Jack Russel Cross, became an integral part of our family around the beginning of the Millenium. He had previously lived in a house where he was left alone in the garden all day, every day, and then locked in the kitchen all night. So for the first time ever we decided to let her sleep in our bedroom - we decided she needed spoiling after her first year of life had been so miserable.

I can't remember whether she came onto our bed the very first night, but she was definitely sleeping there very quickly. She would often get under the duvet and I used to worry about whether she was getting enough oxygen, especially when we went camping, when she would get straight into our double sleeping bag, and went right down to the bottom of it (the nights were chilly)! At least at home she may have got a bit of oxygen from the duvet not being enclosed at the bottom - but in the tent, nope I don't know how she managed to breathe; but she never seemed any more stupid when she was old, than she did as a one year old! God we loved that girl - still do ofcourse ❤

Lightswitchesoffatnight · 24/06/2021 12:35

[quote Medievalist]@Lightswitchesoffatnight

One more go.

Cages create a culture where it's considered acceptable to lock dogs up.

This makes it easier for dogs to fit in with their owners' lifestyle. People who might otherwise think twice about getting a dog and really shouldn't have one. People like the woman referred to in the previous post. People who are all too common sadly.

This encourages people who are out of the house for long periods / can't be bothered to put effort into housetraining etc to get a dog. Because they not going to come home to a wrecked house.

This means more demand for dogs which means more unscrupulous breeders.

Do you know 'crate training' is illegal in Finland and Sweden? [/quote]
You say Cages create a culture where it's considered acceptable to lock dogs up yet fail to provide any evidence.

My experiences tell me that the vast majority of owners who use a crate do it responsibly. Those who neglect or mis-treat a dog will do so regardless of whether a crate is involved.

In fact, using a crate makes training a dog a much more pleasant and enjoyable job, so fewer dogs end up being rehomed. Our local dog trainer, and the puppy classes here, both fully endorse the use of crates, as do many reputable animal organisations.

Having a dog is really hard work, in the early weeks. Using a crate helps the dog and the owner to achieve housetraining more quickly and the dog will feel safer and calmer. In a household with an older dog, the puppy can be put to bed safely, to give the older dog a break.

You are so obsessed with your view that "people" are locking up dogs for hours on end in cages, you can't see the reality of the benefits of crate training.

You clearly never will, so I'm done with you.

YanTanTethera123 · 24/06/2021 12:47

@Medievalist

It’s some people who are cruel, not crates. A crate in itself, isn’t a cruel training aid. Used correctly they are excellent.

You keep trotting this out. But missing my whole point. Why give people access to something that, used INCORRECTLY can cause so much suffering?

Why are you assuming that everyone who correctly uses a crate is automatically being cruel? You might just as well say using a collar and lead is cruel because someone, somewhere has tied a dog up with one or beaten his wife with a lead? A correctly used crate is not cruel. They wouldn’t be recommended by many responsible welfare agencies if that were the case. My new puppy will have a crate as an option to retreat to. She will not be shut in. That is not me being cruel ffs!
lotsofdogshere · 24/06/2021 12:52

My current two sleep in the kitchen. 3 year old spaniel in her bed, 8 month old Labrador in his XL crate. My previous pups have been out of crates by 6 months but I now believe what lab owners report - it’s true, they eat table legs, so he’s crated over night.

I’ve read the criticisms on this thread, it’s often polarised, crate use the work if the devil v let your dog sleep with you.

I’d never crate trained till 13 years ago when I became 3rd owner in 5 months of a huge lab x . I’ve trained 4 puppies since then, no problems at all. Happy, confident dogs. My old cross breed rescue was 13 when that big pup arrived. I keep crate doors open except overnight, the old boy often took himself in there for a peaceful sleep away from the pup and the foster dogs.
I put the small crate up 2 weeks before my spaniel was spayed at 2, she chose to sleep and rest in there, which helped post op.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 24/06/2021 12:54

My dogs sleep at someone's feet. Could be me and mostly it is me, sometimes DH, the children when they are home.

It's a dog's thing, to be by your side and I would not want to prevent them from doing that.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 24/06/2021 12:55

Disclaimer - I dislike crates.

TheDogsMother · 24/06/2021 12:55

Wherever he liked Grin

TheDogsMother · 24/06/2021 12:57

@HeartvsBrain Our Jack Russell did exactly the same and occasionally he would hurl himself out from under the duvet panting Grin

Medievalist · 24/06/2021 13:25

Why are you assuming that everyone who correctly uses a crate is automatically being cruel?

I'm not!! I don't like crates full stop. But I accept that many people use them 'correctly' or as intended. The bigger problem lies in people either wilfully or ignorantly misusing them.

HeartvsBrain · 24/06/2021 15:35

Lightswitchesoffatnight, I find it incredibly worring, and almost unbelievable, that you will not read exactly what medievalist (sorry, if I have not got your name quite right medi) is saying. If you were coming across as illiterate I could maybe understand it more, but you are not.

Cages are ok for sleeping in, PROVIDED:

The door is left OPEN,

There is ROOM for the dog to stand up completely, and to be able to turn around and lie at whatever angle is most comfortable FOR the dog,

There is plenty of thick, comfortable bedding FOR the dog to be comfortable,

That the dog has one or two of it's favourite toys nearby, and water available to it at ALL times,

That the cage is NOT in a draft,

That there is at least a nightlight (electric) ON in the room the dog is in at night - therefore, NOT having the Light Switches Off at Night, and that the light does not shine directly into the cage from any angle, and is not bright.

That the room the dog is in, is ALWAYS at a comfortable temperature FOR the Dog (of course all of these points, apart from the first one, are completely necessary wherever the dog has it's bed).

That the Cage is NEVER used FOR training the dog not to poo or pee inside. This is for at least 2 reasons;

a).. Dogs do not like to soil their beds - a fact most of us seem to agree on here.
So to blackmail them to not RELIEVE themselves as it is AGAINST their nature to hold in their pees and poos, means that you are making that dog VERY uncomfortable, which is totally FOR YOUR SAKE, not the dogs. This could actually cause damage to the dogs' kidneys if it were not for the fact that the dog would end up having to relieve itself, on it's bed, if the dog's guardian forgets, is too busy, has to go out suddenly etc, to take their dog outside every ½ - 1 hour during it's daytime training. There is then one very unhappy dog, that has to sit in it's own urine and or faeces, until it's "guardian" turns up". Added to the fact that far too many "guardians" will actually have the nerve to be cross with the dog, may punish it, and any progress teaching a dog to relieve itself outside may well have just been lost too. A dog needs consistency in all aspects of it's life, but particularly where any sort of training is being attempted.

b) FOR the dog to be "toilet trained" which this method can't do kindly anyway, the cage door HAS to be SHUT and LOCKED (remember at the start of this, a cage is only ok if it's door is left OPEN) All of which will be in the day for most people, as they will be asleep at night - now Lightsoffatnight, you may be one of the few people who will actually get out of bed hourly whilst the dog is downstairs locked in it's cage, and going through it's toilet training, or maybe you even sleep on a settee whilst the toilet training is ongoing, but please believe me, MOST people will not.

I don't know where you got your mistaken belief that dog's like or even love their LOCKED cages, except that is an untruth bandied about by people who have either ulteriour motives to do so, or by those who haven't got enough logical commonsense to realise that no sentient being would enjoy being locked in a cage. I think that you hinted that we shouldn't anthromorphise our dogs (and presumably other animals), but are you sure about that? I read a transcript of a talk given by a lady called Laurel Braitman, it was a talk through an organisation called TED, here is a little extract of her talk:

"So one thing that I would really like people to feel is that you really should feel empowered to make some assumptions about the creatures that you know well. So when it comes to your dog or your cat or maybe your one-armed monkey that you happen to know, if you think that they are traumatized or depressed, you're probably right. This is extremely anthropomorphic, or the assignation of human characteristics onto non-human animals or things. I don't think, though, that that's a problem. I don't think that we can not anthropomorphize. It's not as if you can take your human brain out of your head and put it in a jar and then use it to think about another animal thinking. We will always be one animal wondering about the emotional experience of another animal".

One last thing Lightswitchesoffatnight, you appear to claim that you know LOTS of people who put their dogs in cages and that they all know how to do that it humanely, ie keep the doors OPEN - do you honestly know all these people personally, and know that they are telling the truth, because that is the complete opposite of what I have found when reading articles about caging dogs, and forams where people have, like here today, discussed/argued about the rights and wrongs of caging dogs, and very sadly, many of the posters have no idea that to cage a dog kindly, the cage door has to be left open, and the dogs need to have reasonable choices available to them to where they want to be.

You, yourself say how much easier toilet traing your dog was by caging it throughout that period, but that was ONLY easier FOR you, not your poor dog. You had to have your dog's cage closed and locked, otherwise that "method" of making it try to hold on to it's urine and faeces (as it wouldn't want to "go" on it's bed) couldn't work, as it would just leave it's cage, and do it's toilet somewhere else in the room.

HeartvsBrain · 24/06/2021 15:36

I had loads of paragraphas and spaces! Sorry it hasn't stuck to them.

Medievalist · 24/06/2021 15:39

@HeartvsBrain

👏👏👏👏👏👏

Claudia84 · 24/06/2021 19:56

My dog slept in a crate to begin with and then decided he didn’t like it and I felt he was safe and so left it open and now he comes on the bed when we go to bed and then hops down and sleeps on the floor until early morning when he comes back up again.
I think with a rescue dog they’ll need time to get used to their new environment so you’ll need to be guided by him/ her. Have the options and make sure they feel safe. Don’t push it or force into a situation they can’t handle.

Claudia84 · 24/06/2021 19:57

And we did use a crate to help with toilet training but only because it helped for me to hear when he needed to go out - only at night and it was close enough for me to pick him up and put him straight outside

AnnieSnap · 24/06/2021 20:00

On our bed 🙂

RickOShay · 24/06/2021 20:15

Thank you @HeartvsBrain and @Medievalist. My dog was absolutely one of the best things in my life.

I think caging dogs is abhorrent.

Gingerninja4 · 24/06/2021 20:23

Downstairs in open plan lounge kitchen ,normally on sofa but I also sleep in loung so sometimes next to my bed

Not on my bed just in case of catching my skin st night as my skin tears easily

He could gp upstairs by kids room etc but he is my dog

familychallenge · 24/06/2021 20:44

I live alone and have 2 duvets on my bed. One for me, one for the dog 😃😃😃

foofooyeah · 25/06/2021 19:12

Used to always be in the kitchen, but we recently had a lot of work done on the kitchen so he moved upstairs to the spare room where he now stays. Although I sometimes find him in my sons room the following morning.

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