Bordoodle

[Spaceman1]

I've just completed a questionnaire that recommends that a Bordoodle is the best dog for me. This is a cross between a border collie and a poodle. As they are quite rare I would love to know of anyone who has one and who knows of a reputable breeder.

[quote Spaceman1]@notonmywatch28 would you recommend as a family dog?[/quote]
For our family , he is the perfect fit . We live in the country, his walks are mainly off lead , kids are teens, house and garden large enough for him ( he's lab size ).
If I have another dog though, it will be a rescue .
And I'm a bit shocked having looked at the cost of puppies 😲, mine was £350 !

@notonmywatch28 my garden is only 20 ft x 30ft so not much room for the dog to get exercise. There is a large park near me but it has deer so I can't imagine it would be a good idea to let a Bordoodle off leash there. 😏

My elderly dog needs more than 45 mins total walking a day. That survey is crock of shit IMHO.

[quote Spaceman1]@notonmywatch28 my garden is only 20 ft x 30ft so not much room for the dog to get exercise. There is a large park near me but it has deer so I can't imagine it would be a good idea to let a Bordoodle off leash there. 😏[/quote]
Poodles have a strong prey drive , so that will be a no ! My dog has brilliant recall until he sees a squirrel!

my garden is only 20 ft x 30ft so not much room for the dog to get exercise. There is a large park near me but it has deer so I can't imagine it would be a good idea to let a Bordoodle off leash there. 😏

I have a reasonably small garden but it backs on to a crop field. Consequently we have lots of mice, birds, rodents etc. My terrier will spend hours outside (and inside tbh) digging, hunting, sniffing and generally doing his “job” as pest control.

He isn’t overly bothered about walks, he just sees it as more work keeping an eye on us all and getting us all back in the house safely.

He bloody loves large animals like horses though. Thinks they’re all his mates so I have to recall and put him on a lead or he’s off to say hello. More of a risk to him from hooves, but is it far easier to recall a dog that just wants to see his friends than one who has prey scent in his nostrils.

[quote Spaceman1]@notonmywatch28 my garden is only 20 ft x 30ft so not much room for the dog to get exercise. There is a large park near me but it has deer so I can't imagine it would be a good idea to let a Bordoodle off leash there. 😏[/quote]
The walking isnt just for exercise. Its part of their pack mentality to walk with their "pack", they like to have a good sniff around, and also do their business away from the home area.
I can tell you now that most dogs will not do a poo in a garden that size, so that is something to bear in mind that you have to get up and out every single morning without fail so they will do their poos.
Mine wont poo within at least 200yards of my home!

@Motorina

Fortunately the wolfadoodle appears to be crossed with an Irish Wolfhound. Which is - small mercies! - less bloody stupid than crossing it with an actual wolf.

What's next? A poodle/polar bear (Poladeboodle?) cross?

There are wolf-poodle crosses as well! They're called Eskipoos and are almost exclusively sold by dodgy puppy farms because evidently even in America there's general recognition that it's a terrible idea.

Only read OPs posts, but how on earth did you fill out the questionnaire and come up with that answer?

[quote Spaceman1]@notonmywatch28 my garden is only 20 ft x 30ft so not much room for the dog to get exercise. There is a large park near me but it has deer so I can't imagine it would be a good idea to let a Bordoodle off leash there. 😏[/quote]
Dunno. Depends how much you like venison

[quote Spaceman1]**@notonmywatch28 would you recommend as a family dog?[/quote]
@Spaceman1 I would really recommend that you take on board the advice of 99% of posters and drop this Bordoodle idea altogether! Please!

That quiz you linked to is completely misleading and irresponsible. You'd probably do better with a Buzzfeed quiz like 'We'll tell you which dog to buy based on the cheeseburger you build'.

I absolutely believe @notonmywatch28 that her Bordoodle is lovely and very chilled, but with any breed you'll get exceptions. You wouldn't buy a product that had 20 0-star reviews and 1 5-star, especially if it cost thousands of pounds. That's exactly the situation we have here.

Try googling 'Best family dog for first time owner' as a starting point!

@Wavescrashingonthebeach That's a good point, in fact I would prefer my dog did their business outside the house and garden altogether. Just to get this straight I'm not a couch potato, I love going for walks it's just finding the time during the week with work and childcare. If I was retired I'd be happy to go for long walks every day. I think I need more of a companion dog atm.

I got a cockapoo or a Labrador, both of which I have This bordoodle idea was also on the list however plus several dogs I hadn’t even heard of either!

Just one final point, if it was a BC toy poodle cross then it might be a bit more manageable.

[quote Spaceman1]@Wavescrashingonthebeach That's a good point, in fact I would prefer my dog did their business outside the house and garden altogether. Just to get this straight I'm not a couch potato, I love going for walks it's just finding the time during the week with work and childcare. If I was retired I'd be happy to go for long walks every day. I think I need more of a companion dog atm. [/quote]
In the nicest possible way, if you havent got the time for walks and you are just after companion why not get a different animal? Walks are pretty much non negotiable with dogs and its just as much for their toilet needs as for the exercise so you cant think one morning "im busy right now he can wait til later" as he cant.
Obviously there is a bit of leeway which you learn according to the dog.

@Spaceman1

Just one final point, if it was a BC toy poodle cross then it might be a bit more manageable.

No, it would just be smaller.

No it wouldn’t. It’d just be smaller, but with attitude.

@Wavescrashingonthebeach with the greatest respect, I believe some dogs need less walking than others...

OP, why are you still so set on the idea of Bordoodles after everything people have said on here? These are people who really know what they're talking about, and they've given you some good advice.

Is it because you like the look of them? If so, just get this. Cheap, low maintenance, looks the part. Job done.

[quote Spaceman1]@Wavescrashingonthebeach with the greatest respect, I believe some dogs need less walking than others...[/quote]
I never said they didnt?
One of my earliest posts on this thread was the difference between high, medium & low energy dogs. Not all dogs need a 2 hour roam across farmland. Some are happy with a quick whiz round the block.
That's why an older dog would be ideal for you.
Puppies of any breed require A LOT of attention and training. Its usually recommended to take time off work when getting a puppy.

[quote Spaceman1]@Wavescrashingonthebeach with the greatest respect, I believe some dogs need less walking than others...[/quote]
That is right, but if 30 mins twice a day is the most you can manage, you will need to rule out a puppy and look into rescuing an older dog (or, as waves has said, a different animal).

To give you an idea, I adopted my lurcher when she was probably 1 or 2 years old. Lurchers are usually (not always) pretty chilled, and I expected to be walking her for an hour a day total. Well, nope, ended up being 2-3 hours a day and I had to change my entire routine to accommodate her. Now she's 4 she's calmed down a bit, but still needs 2 hours a day minimum.

If you really want a dog from puppyhood, have you considered a Cavalier King Charles? That might be the perfect fit for you.

@TheVanguardSix Thanks for your suggestion, are they good with children? Also, male vs female different behaviour?

Cavs have awful health problems though. I’m afraid I wouldn’t have one.

@TheVanguardSix

If you really want a dog from puppyhood, have you considered a Cavalier King Charles? That might be the perfect fit for you.

Cavaliers have awful health problems, sadly.

Wow - ignore anything that questionnaire says. What a complete nonsense. 45 minutes total?! Ha! Even the laziest lapdog needs that let alone a mix of two high energy, frequently neurotic, working breeds. My teeny Jack Russell needs at least 2 hours a day (although she'll happily trade that for indoor play if it's raining). Not so possible with a larger breed to provide enough movement indoors though and a poo breed unlikely to care about the wet seeing they are water retrievers.

Collies can be lovely family dogs but often aren't. They can find children unpredictable and scary, can be nippy, commonly display herding behaviour.

The coat will only need that little maintenance if it inherits a collie coat, and then it will shed. Poodle coats need regular professional grooming unless you learn to do that your self, my sisters poo crosses had thankfully been clipped short just before first lockdown but still became unmanageable and a little matter before groomers reopened and she'd tried hard to maintain it.

Great fun dog if expertly trained and have a job I'm sure but as a family pet for short walks highly likely to end in disaster