Emfranbelis dog breeder

[Lotty32]

Has anyone had any experience of this breeder in Shropshire please?

I had a quick look, and this is a working kennel. Are you looking for a working dog,? And if you want a working line dog as a pet, do you know what you are getting into? They can be fabulous pets, but they are hard work.

They have a lot of dogs, and several different breeds, but that is not uncommon amongst gamekeepers and people who pick up for a living. They also have a lot of litters (up to six a year), so I'd want to be sure that the dams and puppies were getting what they needed in terms of care and socialisation, especially given that the breeder has a large kennel of dogs to train and exercise.

Check them out for health tests and age at first litter and so on on Champdogs. You can also look at the KC website if you sign up.

If you want people's personal opinions on the breeder, it would be worth your while to join something like the Gundog Training for Novices page on FB. If you ask straight up about a breeder, your post will probably be deleted as off topic, but if you say you're thinking about getting a cocker puppy (or whatever) and what do you need to know, you should get loads of advice. It's a helpful page.

Many thx that is super helpful. It's not for me it's for a friend but for some reason I just had a bad feel about it!
I already have a rather idle cocker! X

I’m all for working lines over shows so that aspect doesn’t bother me, but they have 4 different breeds going.. that does bother me.

I wouldn’t be too comfortable about that, especially as they are all fairly large breeds so presumably not living in the house, unless it’s some big country estate maybe.

My assumption would be these are outdoor Kennelled dogs with the puppies born and reared in the house.
I’m not sure how I feel about that.

I wouldn’t straightaway discount them but I’d be cautious.

Having a closer look, another thing that concerns me, is they have the studs listed but not the bitches, why?

That really alarms me because it makes me think it may be a similar set up to a famous lurcher breeder who I won’t mention who also only had the studs listed on the website and rumour was that that was because the mums were ex track greyhound females who were PTS once they were done breeding.

The lack of mention of the females combined with the large number of dogs (6 males in just one breed!) kept, no, on second thoughts I would definately avoid

Many thx and I will pass these comments onto my friend x

The bitches are on ChampDogs. I'd want a good chat to the breeder and a walk round the set-up. I think what you really need is to find out how people who also work their dogs find the breeder.

There was a breeder recently in this neck of the woods whose behaviour made waves on a breed page. I'd already heard not-great things from gundog owners, so I wasn't surprised.

The bitches are on ChampDogs. I'd want a good chat to the breeder and a walk round the set-up. I think what you really need is to find out how people who also work their dogs find the breeder
Oh okay, I’d only seen the website.
They really should update their website and include the bitches, doesn’t look good having only the boys

Just read this when searching for news on my gorgeous extended ESS family. Sounds like you need to steer well clear of working dog breeds, some really stupid comments on here, don’t do this amazing breed disservice by your lack of knowledge. I’m not going to advertise this breeder but maybe you need to do proper research - how about talking to the breeder rather than leaving it up to grazing the internet! From one very happy, non working but well trained, agility going, 10k run accompanying, always on the go healthy Working Gundog family