Puppy Support Group 2

[DuchessDarty]

A continuation of this:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_doghouse/3600375-Young-Puppy-Support-Group

All age of puppies (and owners ) welcome

Ok great, yes we’re definitely trying to do that-the kitchen is pretty well puppy proofed, he hasn’t had access to any of the rest of the house (apart from when he’s escaped) and we’re not letting him have slippers, socks etc (despite him best efforts).

Everytime he gets bitey he gets put down or a chew toy shoved in his mouth instead!

I'm going a bit crackers with the toilet training.
She just won't go outside and if I catch her going inside and take her out she just finishes off as soon as we are back in.
The puppy pads too are hit and miss. Sometimes she use them and sometimes not. It's so frustrating.
I think I'm going to forget outside for a bit and concentrate on praise for using the pads so at least it's contained.
Do you think that's ok?

Thinking of cancelling Xmas at this rate

Another one here saying hang in there, ours is about 6.5 months now and the tough puppy days seem like a distant blur. Mine isn’t great at being left on his own so that’s something I’m working on, but apart from that he is amazing. Mostly toilet trained (won’t have an accident for ages and then suddenly will do a few in a day or two but then back to normal?), not pulling on the lead seems to have clicked most of the time, he is sleeping through again finally, he is sweet and playful, doesn’t bite etc. He is just a little joy to be around.

He used to be terrible with going for slippers and shoes but now I can usually put my shoes on and tie my laces while he sits and watches or sniffs around. He is good at drop it and leave it now too, but I think he has also just learnt that not everything is that interesting.

It will get better!!

Christmas will be the absolute bare minimum this year-I’m planning on getting pissed in the kitchen. That’s about it😄 I actually feel horrible about it cause we always do lots of fun Christmas stuff in the run up and have lots of family over/visit family and friends and I just can’t do any of it. You can’t take a bitey pup to a family gathering who’s going to terrorise the kids and poo and wee on the carpets! I genuinely don’t know what the fuck I was thinking!

Is everyone else getting really good at faking how wonderful and adorable their pup is when people ask? I’m such a good liar 🤥

Spotty I used to offer him to people for free .

Ledkr I am one for finding your own way as there is no one right way to bring up a puppy in my book but I would actually do the opposite and ditch the puppy pads and just get them used to going outside. Whilst it seems the best route to use pads (and for some it works) as yours is clearly confused it might be better giving just one message which is outside only and never inside iykwim.

There's a really good Facebook page which has loads of units of advice, Dog Training advice and support. I've learned loads without having to ask any questions.

I do lie to some people because they were (rightly) cautious about us getting a puppy. I don't want "I told you so" because I know this bit isn't forever and the payoff for the next 10-15 years will be worth it.

We have to do quiet Christmas anyway for dd (ASD). I used to do Christmas in a big way, loved Christmas, but she can't cope with it so we've scaled down. I was looking up going away somewhere last night! Too expensive sadly.

One group I'm on for ASD, someone said they were getting a puppy a week before Christmas

I think it's probably tricky having a young puppy at this time of year, when we bought our pup home it was the end of the summer hols so spent loads of time in the garden. I'm guessing with it being cold, dark and wet most puppies and people won't want to be outside for ages.

I agree with pp though and ditch the pads and work on going outside. It def helps having a code word for when they do go outside, we say busy busy and now our dog will wee pretty much on command.

As well as ditching the puppy pads and praising when something is done outside. I would not pick up the pup mid wee and put outside. I don’t think they understand. Just ignore, wipe up and half an hour later put outside.
Ours is now 9 months. He is lovely. Still does stuff like grab the tea towel or any socks on the floor but walks into his crate at bedtime and doesn’t even need to be rushed out for a wee in the morning.
My big problem is his fixation with other dogs when out for a walk. He wants to play with them all and if he is on a lead he barks at them.
I have had to put him back on a long lead because he makes a beeline for other dogs and totally ignores me.

Biteypup is a lab, so a fairly hefty dog to be lunging and biting at you. At 15 kilos she could jump up at my back and grab my bra strap

After saying how good she's been recently, she had a meltdown last night due to over tiredness and launched at DH on the sofa to bite him! As soon as she was taken out to the kitchen she flopped on the floor fast asleep. Any bitey behaviour always seems to be aimed at DH for some reason.

Getting enough sleep has always been her issue and I still enforce crate rest to make sure she doesn't get overtired, but we had extra outdoor training yesterday and the extra stimulation obviously tipped her over the edge to being bitey in the evening

Clownpup is a labradoodle, and currently almost 14kg, so I can empathise BiteyMcBiteface

It has got better with enforces sleep time. She's worse with DH, but that's because she wants to play and he wants to watch TV a d tried to ignore her.

Stick with it @Ledkr
I gave up
Went and bought a ton of puppy pads and settled in, same as you, I just couldn’t cope anymore
But then i sat down
Thought some more about it and then refreshed myself on lots of potty training literature and YouTube videos and went at it with renewed faith
We had one accident yday but otherwise have been accident free for a few days now. She’s 9 weeks
No accidents through the night, she wakes us up to go outside

Hope you’re doing ok today!

Does anyone else find the weekends so much easier? Having DH at home today had done wonders for my mental state. We’ve laughed through the things that would normally push me to tears. If only we could do it all together!

Hating pup this weekend. Sooo bloody bitey!!! Pup was neutered on monday so obviously not stuck to our usual routine and only a short walk around the block each day. Seems to just want to bark and bite and be a complete arsehole. Enforced time out is needed but still have to endure painful bites. He's now 7 months. Need to try and put the xmas tree up tomorrow. Ffs

Alfred has been home a week, he's 11 weeks today and he has been amazing so far. We have had two accidents in the house and both have been due to me not reading his signals well enough, he is still a bloody nightmare for eating but we are slowly getting there. He is bitey but we are following the advice on the Dog Training Facebook page promoted on this thread and it is definitely working. He knows his name and comes to me if I call him (but ignores DP's attempts most of the time). Tonight we have been able to take him to DD's house where he did eventually aly on his blanket while we ate dinner then he watched In The Night Garden with our toddler before settling down to sleep in the car for the journey home. He starts puppy school in 10 days time and I am really looking forward to that time with him.

Panicking that dpup has hurt her tail
It appears to have a bit of a kink towards the end - just the angle changes shape
She can move it around and doesn’t seem to be in any pain
But I’m panicking she’s broke it on my watch! I feel awful

Snuffles I'm sure the tail is fine, I worried about this at one point as well as dpups tail looked a bit funny but I wonder now if it was just a growth spurt or something. The tails are pretty sturdy and I'm sure it would be sore if he'd damaged it. Obviously if you're worried ask a vet to check it.

I'm not sure about a Christmas tree, someone mentioned it confuses puppies and sometimes they can wee under them thinking they're outside!!

Luna was sick a few times yesterday (once on fil) and I think it's was from eating stuff outside.
My garden is muddy and waterlogged at the moment and she just goes about eating stuff and drinking from puddles. This is another thing making potty training so unpleasant.
Re the pads. At night she sleeps from about 10 till 6.30 in her open crate and actually takes herself off to bed at this time. No whining or barking and often no or just one pee on the pad.
So if she actually ever does start to wee outside what would I do about that? She's in such a great night routine I'm reluctant to spoil it and add lack of sleep to my already stressful life 🤪

Ledka that's what you need to weigh up really. I used a baby monitor and got up initially at night. I then used to get him up using an alarm but extended that time until he could hold it all night. Not for everyone but mine has had a bad belly all his life so I used to prefer to clean it outside rather than inside.

Some people do well on pads but if you are struggling with toilet training and using them then I would question whether they are confusing your puppy. Maybe no pads down ever in the day and watched closely to really get on top of in the day but use them at night as a compromise for your sleep.

Sorry mistyped your name Ledkr

@Ledkr it is rubbish to get up, but if your days easier it’s worth it for us.
We occasionally have to get up twice, but normally just once
And she’ll sleep now from
10.30 -7.30 or sometimes 8.30! So it makes up for the quick wee about 3am

Oh god the Christmas tree. Dd will insist it goes up today (ASD and therefore 1st Dec is the start of Xmas). But we'll need to moved stuff and I imagine pup will just chew it (it's fake) and steal all the decorations.

Remind me again why we got a puppy?!?

If you have a playpen you could put the xmas tree in that.

Ledk-we’ve got a similar set up at night. Pen with bed and puppy pads. He sleeps 8pm-5/6am without a peep, he doesn’t make any noise when he needs the toilet, just uses the pads and goes back to bed. There’s always 2 wees and 2 poos in the morning. I honestly don’t think I’d cope with getting up in the night to take him out. It seems madness to disturb the whole house and I wouldn’t even know when to wake him up as he gives no indication. I hope I don’t live to regret it but it’s what’s working for us. My theory is that as he gets older he’ll just naturally be able to hold it all in longer.

He’s doing well during the day but he’s suddenly having accidents in the evening. It’s when it’s dark out and since the weathers turned cold so I’m wondering if he just doesn’t want to go outside in it as he’s making no attempt to go to the back door (which he does during the day). Then again may he the night time puppy pads are confusing him. I really don’t know.