Cockapoo breeder

[BurnedToast]

Can anyone recommend a cockapoo breeder? We're in sw London but dont mind travelling. We're looking for a black or tuxedo cockapoo puppy from the end of August. Thank you.

If they are as experienced as you say then they’re very brave. Trying to train two puppies at once is notoriously tricky because as litter mates they are inclined to pay more attention to each other than you. So have to be trained separately which obviously takes twice as long. And spaniels can be lively.

It’s unwise to buy siblings due to littermate syndrome, which can lead to severe severe aggression even in siblings who were ‘inseparable’ as puppies. Most the time one has to be rehomed as they will fight to the death.
It’s a very real but usually unheard of behavioural problem and can arise if young puppies are brought at the same time even if not actually siblings.
Even if the person is lucky enough not to experience the aggression, usually the dogs will bond closely together and less with the owners causing training problems.

This happens with any breeds, not cockerpoo specific. Good breeders should advise potential owners against buying littermates.

I know spaniels can be lively, we come from a rural very doggy background and have had spaniels and collies among others all our lives. Know plenty people with doggy siblings and it's never been an issue. My best friends bitch had only 2 pups a few years back so she kept them both. They all lived totally harmoniously with no training issues for a number of years until sadly one escaped on to the road and was hit by a car. I'd imagine these things could possibly become more of an issue in a flat with a small garden with inexperienced owners and dogs that are left alone 9-5 but living rurally with more than sufficient exercise, stimulation and training it's not something I've experienced personally (I now do live in a flat and is the reason I don't have a dog at this stage of my life)

booboo66 it might not apply in your sister's situation but the 'I got my puppies via people I know well and they are just having one litter and it's all totally fine and healthy and brilliant and lovely' is classic puppy farm story.

Again, @Firstimpressionsofearth I wonder if you would query a Labrador owner who only wanted a black lab? Or someone who wanted a black cocker spaniel?

Yes I would. What difference does it make it what colour your dog is? Unless of course your looking for a colour that is recognised by the Kennel club , like a poodle in one sold colour.

God OP how dare you do anything but adopt a lurcher

It's amazing that anyone on MN manages to obtain a puppy at all, given every route to obtaining one is utterly, unspeakably evil.

"Can anyone recommend a cockapoo breeder?"

Far prefer cockadoodle, to cockapoo as a name ... though overriding that, would stand by the adage, don't doodle with a poodle!

Oh my god why are they not called cockerdoodles? Why have I not thought of this before? How brilliant would that be?

They're not called cockerdoodles because the 'd' in 'doodle' comes from labraDor.

Has anyone PMed you about Bridgeways? I haven’t had a puppy off of them but my husbands stepsister in law’s sister () has and had only good things to say. I’m a member of their Facebook group and she seems a lovely, loving and involved breeder.

Hello @BurnedToast

Ignore the doom mongers ... we got a cockapoo because we needed a dog that suited the needs of our family... and no one on the internet has the right to tell me what is right for my family.

We got our Cockapoo from Jukeedoodles in Lincolnshire. She is absolutely beautiful in temperament and clearly had a wonderful mother .

We visited where they live , saw the parents, saw the litter with their mum etc all in advance of collecting our pup (which you dont choose, they literally choose you).

I dont regret if for a moment. A rescue dog is not right for our family at the moment for many reasons.

Good luck

I cant say ive ever seen or heard of a parti coloured poodle at crufts as a recognised standard? Parti and other non-block coloured poodles were the norm some decades ago and are now being bred again. You won't have seen them at Crufts as they are not a standard recognised by either KC or AKC, just as those organisations don't recognise poodles as working dogs, yet that is exactly what they were, and still are used for hunting/water retrieving in France and USA, and sometimes now in the UK. Unfortunately KC and AKC have a lot to answer for since their breed standards for showing mean that people are only used to seeing these dogs as puff balls with shaved muzzles and feet. It's a great shame as they are very robust dogs, intelligent, and don't look anything like people expect them to without the shaving.

IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls plenty of stuff on the internet calling that particular breeder out for bad practice. However, I'm glad you got a decent puppy from them.

Cockerpoos are great working dogs and give the cocker element enhanced ability in water. Crossbreds can be well produced just as pedigrees can be shittily produced.

Good luck OP

The fact of the matter is every time someone buys a poodle cross they are helping to maintain a market for dogs bred in appalling conditions, sick puppies, dogs that have horrendous lives. And I don’t understand why anyone who claims to love animals would want to do that.

There are plenty of dog breeds that are bred with integrity and have wonderful lives. Poodle crosses and flat-faced breeds are sadly not one of those groups. That is why people get their backs up about them, because they know how horrific it can be for these poor dogs that deserve a perfect start in life, but don’t get it and are just a money spinner for many.

@AgathaF yes there are ... but I actually wonder how many of those people have had experience of Jukeedoodles.

My parents however when they got their dog from a different breeder there were so many red flags for me and sadly my gut was proved right by the pups behaviour which suggested that she hadn't been raised with a responsive mum or litter.

Crossbreds can be well produced just as pedigrees can be shittily produced.

I don't think anyone is saying that's not the case, it's just the likelihood of finding a good cockapoo breeder is extremely rare for many reasons.

There are plenty of poorly bred pedigrees but that's not an argument for the existence of designer crosses either. 15 years ago cockapoos would have cost £200 and been called mongrels. Now they're "designer" or "hypo-allergenic" crosses that fetch upwards of £1000 per puppy. Most of these pups haven't even seen a vet let alone come from parents who have been properly health tested.

I'm sure there are some people who genuinely breed cockapoos the right way, but they're few and far between. Puppy farmers are getting smarter and smarter and it's easy to be fooled into thinking they're good people because they have a nice house and and young children.

I just cant summon up the will to give a shiny shyte about whether we call something a mongrel and price it at 200quid or call it a hybrid, a designer cross and charge 1k for it. Who cares? Maun thing is the dogs are tested and well cared for, and you can find that in any breed or cross of two or more breeds. Its all made up human bollocks - we invent the breeds, or the types, or the words to describe them, tastes and trends and needs change over time. I see no reason the cockerpoo cant become 'fixed' in future if its satisfying a market need, just like the cocker and the poodle did once upon a time.

Cockers and poodles have been bred for hundreds of years, for a purpose: working.

Not to look cute because Sue and Roger down the road can’t be fucked with moulting and grooming their dog.

Cockers and poodles have been bred for hundreds of years, for a purpose: working.

Not to look cute because Sue and Roger down the road can’t be fucked with moulting and grooming their dog.

Not sure that's strictly true. I don't think the poodle had been worked as a retriever for a very long time. The toy and miniature have been bred as companion/lap dogs for a long time and I'm not sure they have ever been working dogs other than used in circus's.

There’s a standard and a miniature poodle that regularly come on shoots so they’re definitely still worked. They’re cracking pick up dogs, and my cocker trained with a poodle when she first started training to beat and pick up.

Anyway, the origins of the dogs are to work. Toys and miniatures included. Doodles and alike were bred to not shed.

Pedantics aside, it’s doesn't change the fact that hundreds if not thousands of poodle-cross dogs, bitches and puppies have utterly horrific lives because people keep insisting on buying them. They are a money spinner, and while some might be bred with love and care, so so many aren’t. Animals are suffering at the behest of humans because we must have the “in-breed”. Anyone who cares even the slightest bit for animals would see that and wouldn’t keep lining the pockets of people for these dogs, and so continuing to drive the market for them.

I just don't understand why people hate poodles but love poodle crosses. My poodle is the best dog ever.

What MustardScreams said.

I've nothing at all against cockerpoos - they are supercute looking and can be lovely dogs. They've been cleverly billed as the Perfect Family Dog and they're easy to get hold of. You can take one everywhere and noone will cross the road to avoid you walking such a cute bundle.

The reality? They are a puppy farmer's dream and a cash cow for Jim and Brenda down the road who want a nice holiday. Rescues are inundated with poodle crosses with aggression and behavioural issues due to bad breeding and hapless owners.

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I don't think the poodle had been worked as a retriever for a very long time

Of course they are - poodles are working dogs. Just because lots of people keep them (and their crosses) as pets doesn't mean they're still not used as working dogs by plenty of people.

www.holidays4dogs.co.uk/blog/clavidd-standard-working-poodles/