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Following on from my other thread....if you have a male dog that dosnt wee in your house overnight

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snowdrop6 · 08/05/2019 12:12

What does your evening routine look like? When is his last walk.? When is the door shut for a wee in the garden ,where does he sleep and what time are you up in a morning with him.
3 wees this morning,and my house now smells 😢😢

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snowdrop6 · 08/05/2019 13:04

He won’t walk well on a lead either,he sniffs and wees all the time ,where ever you walk he seems to go the opposite way.just sniff and wee sniff and wee..he does about 15 wees on each walk ,everything we walk past he has to wee on

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snowdrop6 · 08/05/2019 13:05

Vet said it was best to get him done now they are happier with his weight

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Fazackerley · 08/05/2019 13:07

Ours are walked at about 6.30am and then from 1-2pm. Let out for a pee arounf 7.30pm
They are really good aboit not peeing but tbh if they do it doesn't bother me. We have stone floors whwre they sleep.

Wolfiefan · 08/05/2019 13:11

How old is he and what breed? Have you checked for UTI?

Dottierichardson · 08/05/2019 13:11

Bit confused OP in your previous post you mentioned one dog, now sounds as if more than one and both with problems. Have you checked that they don't have an illness? If they're defecating indoors it could be a parasite. My younger dog, who we adopted when she was a few months old did this, and turned out had Giardia which the vet treated.

As for the snip it won't automatically house-train your rescue dog, and it may be that your rescue dog is afraid to go out alone at night, my older ,smaller dog didn't like the noises at night - cats/foxes etc...we always went out with him if it was the middle of the night. He may also, like many dogs, dislike being left alone at night, again dogs vary, my older dog disliked sleeping alone, my younger not that bothered.

But Biteyshark's suggestions on the other thread are very sensible, and comparing with other dogs is really not worth your time. Dogs vary and this is a small dog in a new situation, it also sounds as if you are stressed about the smell and that will also be communicated to your dog and anxiety does not help with settling. You need to house train from scratch, and spend time bonding with the dog. But you do need to try to chill out more about the smell, if you've had dogs before then you will have had or should know that you can expect accidents, stomach bugs, vomiting and other forms of fluids as par for the course. And when they're older incontinence or accidents because of mobility problems are common. You should also bear in mind that urination is a form of territory marking that can make anxious dogs feel safe, so it may be that the dog is doing this because he's nervous or anxious at night.

While you're training get some decent anti-bacterial pet cleaning spray from Pets at Home or similar which will contain enzymes to cover up the smell so the dog can't smell it either.

tabulahrasa · 08/05/2019 13:13

He’s either not fully housetrained or he’s stressed at being left overnight...or a combination of both.

Either way, when he’s getting out won’t resolve it until you sort what the underlying issue is.

Oh and scentmarking while walking is normal, it’s just a training issue to get him to walk with you rather than sniffing when on lead.

Dottierichardson · 08/05/2019 13:13

The lots of small wees on walks may be because the dog is territory marking and again is quite common in male dogs.

WildFlower2019 · 08/05/2019 13:13

I have two dogs. Neither ever wee in my house overnight, though once or twice they've woke me up to ask for a wee or poo around 5/6pm.

I let them out around half ten and I watch them so I know they've done their business.

Before that they go out at 6pm (tea time), sometimes at 3pm, always at lunch time (around midday) a 45 min walk in the morning and first thing at about 7am.

WildFlower2019 · 08/05/2019 13:17

Forgot to add they sleep in my bedroom

Aquamarine1029 · 08/05/2019 13:20

Why aren't you using a crate at night?

WildFlower2019 · 08/05/2019 13:20

And I was meant to write 5/6am

snowdrop6 · 08/05/2019 13:20

Yes we have 2 dogs,my first is a female pug cross.2 years ,shes been done ,the second is this one who we got 5 weeks ago.
I can see I have clearly underestimated what’s involved in taking on a dog you haven’t had from a puppy.
He came with nothing,not a bowel or bed or a toy..he has cost me hundreds in leads ,harness ,vet bills .,bed,toys,4 vet appointments .all injections had to be from scratch as they were out of date..food ,he will only eat cooked fresh meat,so that’s costing £2 a day .
You know I’ve not moaned once ,to anyone. Except on here as you people don’t know me.
I feel out of my depth.

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Dottierichardson · 08/05/2019 13:26

Yes Wildflower but this is a dog in a new situation and often they territory mark or they need to be retrained. Also OP this may be unfair but does sound as if you are not yet bonded to this dog, you keep referring to your older dog as 'my dog' not 'my other dog' and you seem to be expecting a lot from him very quickly. Imagine if you were suddenly in a strange house with strange people, a new sibling and you were unable to communicate your feelings/worries, that's what it's like for this rescue dog. With time and patience and rewards-based training - which will also help with bonding - then he should improve. I'm sorry about your sofa though, we gave up on fabric sofas years ago and now buy dog-proof furniture and flooring.

Wolfiefan · 08/05/2019 13:27

How old is the dog?
How have you tried to toilet train?
Has it been checked for a UTI?
Sorry if I’ve missed these answers.

Dottierichardson · 08/05/2019 13:32

If you've brought up your pug successfully then sure you'll manage, I think perhaps you have to forget that the new dog is older and start as if you were training a puppy. Also did this dog live with a pet-flap before? My younger dog is too big for one, but we stayed somewhere once that had one big enough for the older one, he hated it, the noise and the flapping scared him. It may also be that your new dog is more confident about it when you're around and less so when you're not. I would also have him checked for an infection.

CooperD1 · 08/05/2019 13:36

What made you get another dog and in particular this one? What have the rescue told you about him?

snowdrop6 · 08/05/2019 13:51

This is my third dog as an adult ..you would of thought I would know what I was doing by now.clearly I don’t.
He was advertised on Facebook as free .it was a friend of a friend .my dh had been wanting a second dog for a year.i was always saying no .every dog he found I said no to.because I knew I would be paying for it ,and clearing up after it.
Then this dog came along ,and he was sort of family ,and I felt as I was going to end up with a dog anyway ,might as well be this one.
My dh tried to get me to have a huge beagle from dogs trust,had I not gone along and been there to stop it ,they would of got it.my dog is delicate she’s a pug princess.
He’s ( new dog)the same size as her .Hes her prince.❤️.they love each other ,they sleep on top of each other all curled up.
I have to sort this weeing problem out before it tips me over the edge.

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harrypotterfan1604 · 08/05/2019 14:03

@snowdrop6 do you have Facebook? If so join the group dog training advise and support its run by professional behaviourists/trainers.

It sounds to me like you need to go back to basics with him though. That means treating him like he’s a puppy. Set an alarm and get up with him every couple of hours in the night taking him out to toilet and giving a treat when he does. After a week make the length on time between get ups longer and gradually do this until he’s able to hold it all night. It’s going to take some work.
Also please bear in mind that you’ve only had him 5 weeks, he will be stressed out and wondering what’s going on and that’s likely to be contributing.
In regards to your furniture if he isn’t crate trained it’s worth trying to crate train him or use a puppy pen instead so he has no access to your sofa when he isn’t supervised.
There’s no quick fix, most rescue dogs require lots of work and training

snowdrop6 · 08/05/2019 14:05

Thanks Harry Potter fan,and thanks everyone x

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Felicia4 · 08/05/2019 14:05

Might be slightly different, have a male puppy, 4 months old. Has access to garden all day via pet flap. If it's raining he will whinge by the door so I have to physically take him. We take him for a wee whenever we are about to go to bed, varies. He doesn't always go. He has a wash then sleeps in the bedroom with us. Will wake us up if he needs a wee but usually sleeps through until 730/8. He uses a puppy pad if he needs a wee in the middle of the night as by the time we've come downstairs, turned off the alarms etc he would have had an accident.

Wolfiefan · 08/05/2019 14:08

@Felicia4 puppy pads aren’t recommended. They confuse dogs and teach them it’s fine to pee inside.

stucknoue · 08/05/2019 14:10

We walk around 10pm, on lead via lots of lampposts and trees, shut in until 8am- 9am depends on day

OnlineAlienator · 08/05/2019 14:13

Always had male dogs, snipped and entire, none have wee'd in house at night after puppy stage Hmm i just let them out before bed at 10ish and when i wake up at 7ish.

Felicia4 · 08/05/2019 14:15

@Wolfiefan correct

Hoppinggreen · 08/05/2019 14:58

Hopping dog has a last wee at about 9.30 and lasts until 7.30/8 in the morning when I get up and go downstairs to his room
He is neutered though

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