Following on from my other thread....if you have a male dog that dosnt wee in your house overnight

[snowdrop6]

What does your evening routine look like? When is his last walk.? When is the door shut for a wee in the garden ,where does he sleep and what time are you up in a morning with him.
3 wees this morning,and my house now smells 😢😢

[pitterpatterbaby]

We have a male Dobermann that loves to wee on everything. He wees about 10 then wakes at midnight starts circling and pacing the bedroom. If we don't get up quick smart he will wee. He's 18mths now we took him on at around 10 mths from a breeder. I love him but hell its hard work. He also wees on my toddler - yep that's right! Wee'd on his head last week I was mortified as was the toddler.

You are not alone. Feeling your pain!

[NoYo]

We've had a beardie from 8 weeks old.
It took about a week for him to be house trained, he was incredibly quick.
We let him out about 11pm for his last wee and that will be it til about 8am when he has to be chased out to the garden.
He's definitely an indoors lazy boy. 😁

Previously had a JRT who cocked his leg whenever and wherever he liked. DM adopted him and he stopped immediately

[joystir59]

Dog never wees in house

[joystir59]

Dog goes for a wee in garden last thing at night then sleeps all night in his bed which is in our room. He whines to go out at 6am-ish for a wee.

[snowdrop6]

So we have had him 6 weeks now ,before him my girl was spoilt she had every dog toy possible ,so many comfy places to sleep.
We thought we were taking a huge risk taking the new boy.she would never accept him.
We drove miles to get him.he was so thin and scared and his coat was rough to touch.his ribs poked out .
We brought him home ,but not in the house,we brought her out and took them on a walk together.then we took them in the car to a pet shop and bought them chews and treats and his bed ,bowls,lead ,harness,etc.he saw the vet for flee and worming.vet was shocked at his condition and how underweight he was.3 kg
Then we brought him home and they both had chicken hand fed for tea ,then went to their beds to chew their chews.we stayed close ,but there were no problems.
At first she was the boss ,he was timid,he didn’t know how to play,he would watch her choose a toy and play with it with us.he couldn’t chase a ball he just looked at it.at meal times it took a week before he realised he had his own bowl of food,he would wait till she had eaten and just have her leftovers
On a lead it was how I imagined walking a cat would be ,he was of in all directions.
He had no recall .
Now he plays ,he chooses a toy and brings it me..he leaps about the place ,they curl up together for naps
His coat is glossy and so soft to touch.
Now he eats his meals from his own bowls he is 4 kg now.
And I’m so proud of him for how well he is doing
And I’m so proud of my girl for sharing her toys and life with him

[TarquinGyrfalcon]

Ask your vet to test for an infection.
Our rescue boy couldn’t go all night and when the vet tested his urine she described it as “hopping with infection” and said he had obviously had a severe infection for a long time- he had antibiotics and was immediately much better.
He is now 100% clean overnight although on the odd occasion he does come upstairs and ask to put in the night and he is always desperate for a wee - it’s as if when he needs to go he can’t wait.

[Bunnybigears]

Male rescue who used to live on the streets of Romania so not used to a house. Last wee on a walk around 7/8pm refuses to go in the garden. Goes to bed as soon as he gets in from his walk (his choice) doesn't wake up until we do, usually 7:30 but can be later on a weekend. Again waits until he is walked at about 8:30 for his morning wee. I dont know if he can ask to go out but he never has and has never had a wee in the house.

[snowdrop6]

I’ve never heard of a belly band ...is that like a dog nappy ...I’m not sure he would like anything on him.

[snowdrop6]

My pug /cross was so much easier to train,or maybe it was because she is girl...I don’t know

[snowdrop6]

Well ,we were dry last night .so that’s 2 night this week dry..we have limited their use of the rooms ,so at night they have half the space they had and
We have had a move round of furniture,the good stuff / can’t be cleaned stuff is now in a room they can’t get to..
Nothing smells now ,all been cleaned and if he does wee on anything in their area it can be washed / wiped with no problem.
I’m using a command to encourage him to wee ,he has a couple of times ,
But it’s clear this is going to be on going training

[wheelwarrior]

4 year old lab Last pee walk around 9 and not out 6.30 am ish in morning .Can go in garden but he won't has always been like that since turned 1 .But clean in house since 4 months

[Whitney168]

Oh, and peeing three times overnight is not normal 'needing a wee' either, surely? Either he has a resistant UTI, or this is a behavioural thing and earlier/later walks would be quite unlikely to sort it, I would think.

[Whitney168]

Min Pins are notoriously resistant to house training, and you have a dog that has come from a less than ideal housing situation not many weeks ago.

I would contain him at night in a cage (obviously with training first). If this isn't possible, you could look at a belly band for night time only, while you get to grips with this? As others have said, you need to find the right cleaning product to remove the smells too.

(As a side note, if he is remotely nervous, the LAST thing I would do is to neuter him.)

[yetwig]

My male aged 15 months sleeps with us, we go to bed between 8.30 and 9.30 depends what time we have to be up for work. DH sometimes lets him out about 2am, we then get up at about 5am

[JaneEyre07]

Entire male cocker spaniel aged 6 in our house. Goes out for a wee around 10pm, and lasts easily until 7am the next morning. Never wee'd in the house, and was house trained from rescue at 17 weeks.

Girl puppy aged 6 months is about 95% reliably house trained, but still often does a little tiddle overnight. Thankfully we've got hard floors......

[Ylvamoon]

snowdrop6 have you thought about training him to go to the toilet on command? That way, you can ensure that he actually did his business before bed time.
I don't know about yours, but my boy is a water guzzler, he just loves to drink till his bowl is empty ( nothing wrong with him, he just lived a good drink!).
To avoid being woken up at night, I am now removing his bowl around 9 with last calls at 10-10:30!
(He is very clever and brings me the water bowl when he wants an other drink... Image waking up to to sound of him dropping it beside your bed !)

[SlothMama]

I used to have an entire male who passed away a few years ago. However he never weed in the house until he got very old, he would go for a walk at around 6pm be fed at 7.30pm. Have a last week around 10 and would have constant access to his water overnight. He'd be let out again at 6am and he was fine.

Have you had him checked out by the vet, there could be an underlying issue. If he has been checked already you may just need to go back to basics with toilet training.

[adaline]

Can you not fit a crate under the dining room table? Or only assemble it at night perhaps?

It doesn't need to be up all the time but it's clear you need to restrict this dogs freedom - at the very least until he's toilet trained but possibly on a permanent basis.

Some dogs get very stressed when they're given the "run of the house" and do much better with just a small area containing a bed, blankets and water.

[snowdrop6]

I’ve not even got room for a crate ..it’s a small house ..oh god.

[harrypotterfan1604]

I have a large dog who easily jumps normal baby gates, there’s such a thing as a let gate which is much higher try one of those. I think I got mine from Argos.
The advice I gave earlier in the thread was to set an alarm over night and get up numerous times to take him out to pee. Just because he has had lots of wees on a walk doesn’t mean he won’t need to go again.
If anything he’s likely to go more because when he comes home from a walk he’s probably going to be thirsty and Drink a lot.

One of my dogs was difficult to toilet train overnight and the only way we cracked it was by getting up a lot overnight.
It took a good few months of doing this and lengthening the time inbetween get ups slowly and if she had an accident we shorted the time inbetween gets up again.

It is not a quick fix!
A crate may work but he will need training to be happy in it you can’t just throw him in it and expect him to be ok it’s not fair.

[AgathaF]

You need a decent height pen to enclose him when you are not able to monitor him. You're not going to crack this issue whilst you allow the dog to have free reign over your house. He shouldn't be able to get near the computer/furniture/tv/whatever at night until he is reliable. You're really setting him up to fail, which is unfair.

[adaline]

Get two stair gates and put them one on top of the other, so they block the entire doorway. Put the top one upside down with lock at the bottom and the bottom one the normal way up (so like a stable door but with baby gates) so he can't get through.

He has too much freedom overnight - that's your problem. You have one dog that's reliable and safe uncrated but your new dog has shown numerous times that he can't cope with that kind of set-up.

[BiteyShark]

As mentioned on your other thread I think you need to accept that he doesn't understand.

Even though you took him for walks and he peed lots doesn't mean he won't need to do it in the night. I know for a fact if my dog walks about at night he will want a pee, the difference is that he knows to ask me (bark or find me and nudge me) and I will let him out.

I think you need to accept it's going to take time and there is no quick fix. You may need a combination of getting up, confinement and training over a number of weeks before you can start to think he is housetrained overnight.

You mention it's open plan downstairs. Either sleep closer to him, set alarms for pee breaks and or use baby monitors to see what is happening. Try and confine him to a 'safe' area or let him sleep close to you upstairs so you can hear him get up. Getting a pen or crate might be useful but if he isn't used to one you need to accept that will also need training as well.

[snowdrop6]

Belive me I have tried gates and pen thing you put across a room as a divider.he can jump like you wouldn’t belive..he just jumps a stair gate .

[TheHodgeoftheHedge]

Going back to basics (especially for a small dog) is going out every single hour. And if he can’t be dry overnight, that includes getting up in the night.
You need to restrict his movement at night. Baby gates. Baby pens. Crates. All of these are easy options.