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Anyone awake?

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OhLawdy · 18/09/2018 01:27

I put my pup to sleep in the kitchen for the first time tonight and it's been 2 hours and she is still barking :(
It's so loud. I'm worried about my neighbours and I can't sleep either!

She can't sleep in my room as my bed is low and she just jumps in it and bites my hair/face, plus my furniture is designed in a way where it juts out and she just tries to chew it all night.

I'm so stressed. Someone please tell me I'm doing the right thing. I feel awful

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Vallahalagonebutnotforgotten · 18/09/2018 17:50

I would change your trainer and get an up to date qualified trainer who does not spout 1950's style dog training.

If you are stressed what do you think the puppy is feeling?

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OhLawdy · 18/09/2018 18:18

Am very happy with our trainer, thankyou. And our chosen methods.

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Lau123lau · 18/09/2018 18:30

My pup is 15 weeks tomorrow and we brought him home at 9 weeks old. First week or so felt never ending as he was constantly up in the night. He was crates but one of us slept on the sofa so he could see us. After a week, we moved to the other end of the sofa (we have a large corner piece) so he couldn’t see us but we could offer reassurance and take him out if needed. Within 2 weeks he was sleepy through and now falls asleep around 7/8pm, gets taken out (reulctantly) around 10pm and sleeps till 7am. Sometimes a bit later. R did relapse a couple of weeks ago and decide he was waking up again in the night but we realised he needed a bit more exercise and mental stimulation to tire him out. It does feel never ending but it does get easier and looking back now, it seems a distant memory! Hold on in there!

werideatdawn · 18/09/2018 19:40

Bit pointless posting for help then wasn't it Confused Poor dog.

WindyShrimp · 18/09/2018 19:50

This is a very good article on the issues with using the "cry it out" method. It's pretty long but well worth reading if you are, or are considering, using this method with a puppy.

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OhLawdy · 18/09/2018 19:59

Oh give over. Plenty of people let their pups cry it out the first few nights.

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Wolfiefan · 18/09/2018 20:03

And many of those pups go on to develop full on separation anxiety.
It’s unkind and unnecesaary.

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OhLawdy · 18/09/2018 20:05

I can't win.

On my other thread people told me to get rid of the crate.
To put her in the kitchen

Now I'm being told to out her in a crate and bring her in my room.

I don't know w hats for the fucking best

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werideatdawn · 18/09/2018 20:07

You'll only have yourself to blame in a few months when you have an anxious, destructive, barky dog then. We spent a few nights downstairs with our girl, she adjusted to our home so quickly now she puts herself to bed each evening and sleeps through at just 3.5 months old. Not a peep out of her all night. Its really not a hardship to have a few disturbed nights to make sure the puppy you wanted feels secure in their new home. Besides the upset for the dog your poor neighbours must be losing their minds.

madvixen · 18/09/2018 20:07

Can you put the crate in your bedroom? We did this with both of ours until they could be trusted to not try and chew everything in sight.

Do you feed pup in their crate?

Wolfiefan · 18/09/2018 20:12

What’s best is for the pup to be with you.

Vallahalagonebutnotforgotten · 18/09/2018 20:14

But you are not happy with your trainer as you are asking for advice after the information she gave you is not correct and not working.

You would not be questioning it if you thought it was right to let a puppy cry and be distressed. You know this is not the right thing to do.

Listen to your gut. You are an intelligent emotional person as you have already said it makes you feel awful.

A puppy crying is a distressed puppy it is not a puppy that is trying to out trick you. As the puppy becomes more comfortable in the surroundings it will be happy to be left in rooms on its own as the whole situation will be more familiar and the puppy will be more relaxed.

If you can sleep downstairs for a few nights that may be all that is required or have the puppy sleep in your room . I always sleep downstairs with the puppy. The bond you have with your puppy will be increased if you are the one to give it emotional support when it most needs it.

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OhLawdy · 18/09/2018 20:14

She hates the crate. She screams and poops/pees in there

Hence her being in the kitchen so she can get out and use the paper.

She can't do that in my bedroom

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OhLawdy · 18/09/2018 20:15

How can I sleep in the kitchen??

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Vallahalagonebutnotforgotten · 18/09/2018 20:17

We used a blow up mattress - added advantage of not having to go far to get the early morning coffee Smile

bpisok · 18/09/2018 20:18

@OhLawdy - you may be happy with your trainer but you (and your puppy) are def not happy. You were on here at 1.30 with a howling dog. I don't think you said how old puppy is or how long you have had it but you said you haven't slept for 'weeks'. Many of us are saying that within a week or so our pups were going to sleep with one or two toilet breaks or sleeping through the night
I must have read about dogs and dog training for at least 60 hours before we had pup. The advice on here matches good practice and with consistency and determination it seems to work - but it's not an easy win - it's bloody hard graft for days. One single I can't be bothered so I will let them do it and you are back to square one. The 1950s show em whose boss approach doesn't seem to working any better than the give them free access to the house and my bed approach

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OhLawdy · 18/09/2018 20:20

I have a very small kitchen. No room for even a single one and o don't have a blow up bed.

The reason she is in the kitchen is it's the only room in the house it's safe for her to be alone and she can have the crate open.

If I did that in my room she would be jumping on my bed all night. Ditto living room.

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OhLawdy · 18/09/2018 20:21

Weeks was a middle of the night exaggeration. Last night was the first night she slept alone.

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Wolfiefan · 18/09/2018 20:28

Borrow a camp bed or blow up bed. I slept next to ours for the first three weeks. First she had to see me then just hear me. Then she slept through fine.

bpisok · 18/09/2018 20:31

@OhLawdy - sorry my post was way too harsh. How big is the crate compared to the dog bed (which I assume) you have in it? Dogs don't mess where they sleep unless they aren't let out (or are scared) so if it's very small they are (a) less inclined to do their business there (b) will find it cosy (c) see it as their safe place. If it's large they will designate a poo/wee space.

LikeLemondrops · 18/09/2018 20:34

Does your kitchen lead to your lounge? Could you sleep on the sofa where pup can see you?

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OhLawdy · 18/09/2018 20:47

I had a medium crate that was too big so she's in a small one now. Enough room for her to stand and turn etc

No, my living room and kitchen are seperate.

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Fluffypie1 · 18/09/2018 20:59

If she is being very bitey I wouldn't leave a hot water bottle with her

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OhLawdy · 18/09/2018 21:06

See?

Nothing's ever right.

One person tells me to put a water bottle in another tells me not to.

This is more stressful than having a newborn baby :(

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bpisok · 18/09/2018 21:17

@OhLawdy - I agree. Way more stressful than a new born in my experience!!! So she has a small crate with a bed in. How viable is it to move the small crate to the living room and totally wear her out. Run for ball. Sit, stay come, tug of war. On and on. Run up and down for an hour until you are both totally knackered . Let her drink water. Put her (he?) in your lap for 10 mins. Take to the toilet, 5 more mins cuddle and then put her in the crate with the door open but with you sat in front of the crate with your back to her.