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Puppy Survival Thread Part 6

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Elphame · 04/03/2018 15:46

As thread 5 is almost full!

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ThisIsThe · 13/04/2018 21:41

She loves tripe too, disgusting hound that she is.

I’m ironing tea towels and putting them away one at a time. The fluff monster is getting very bored of traipsing back and fore to the kitchen.

I think you said Elfpup had honey’s food? How are you finding that?

Elphame · 13/04/2018 22:13

He still won't eat it. I'm not sure whether it's anorexia from his illness, just being stubborn or if he really doesn't like it.

It is very finely minced - almost like a paste. I'm suspecting that he likes more texture in his food as he'll happily eat chunks of roast chicken or raw chicken wings.

This was DAF which doesn't have that great a reputation but the tripe is chunky and it was devoured with the bowl licked clean. At the moment a meal that he'll eat is more important than me being finicky about the quality! He's turned his nose up at the Natures Menu (?) nuggets too - again they are very finely pureed.

I really do want to use completes though. I'm just not up for butchering in my kitchen. If I can get him back on Butternut Box I'll be happier.

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ThisIsThe · 14/04/2018 06:57

Paleo ridges apparently less paste like (ie. looks more like what it is), but I haven’t tried it.

Last night was marginally better the fluff monster merely yapped when when she went to bed , 2 am, 3:30am and then from 5am until I caved at 6:20am. She’d not touched her lamb spine. Her crate was dry and she was in no rush for the loo when I got up.

So tired.😴

MilkTrayLimeBarrel · 14/04/2018 08:35

We had a much better night - had pup one week now and she slept from 10 through until 4 - I was amazed as she is only 9 weeks old. Long may it continue!

ThisIsThe · 15/04/2018 06:48

Much better night tonight. No whinging at all until 5am

Elphame · 15/04/2018 10:58

Looks like everyone got a decent night's sleep.

Elfpup is driving me crazy. He's bored and wants his walk but I'm taking him out for a walk and lunch a little later.... I wish I could tell him that!
So much for relaxed Sunday mornings!

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newme175 · 15/04/2018 15:06

We had a good night too! 10pm to 5am! I then took him toilet and went back to crate until 6, ignoring the winging. Or trying to ignore...
12 weeks today :)

ThisIsThe · 16/04/2018 15:24

Since we got the dog i’ve had some really dark times but today the sun is shining. Because I have a dog i’ve been for a walk and spoke to 4 people i’ve never met before. Because I have a dog I spent the afternoon gardening in the sunshine.

Today is a good day.

Elphame · 16/04/2018 15:41

It's great to have some sun isn't it ThisIsThe! I also spoke to several new people this morning and Elfpup made a new friend.

He's now crashed out in the garden

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Iamblossom · 17/04/2018 10:29

Hi all. Busy working my way through the whole thread, some great advise on here.

We got a mini Dachshund at 8 weeks in July last year. Despite her diminutive size, she has a massive personality and we are all completely smitten.

It did blow our lives up, and we were a bit worried she would be hard to train as the breed notoriously are - but I took her to puppy training pretty much straight away and she took to it straight away. Her size does mean I haven't been that strict with jumping up or staying, and quite honestly its hard to tell when she is sitting and when she isn't as she is so close to the floor anyway, but she has great recall, is great off the lead. She is a barker and I am trying to train her out of excessive barking when we are out on walks, but she is very protective of me. She never bits or nips or is aggressive with people or other dogs.

We had her in a crate downstairs for the first 6 months of nights. In the first week I did go down at night 1-2 times to let her out but she did still mess her crate sometimes. She did grow out of this quite quickly though. We did not have the crate in our room. She cried for the first two nights and that was it.

She now (shame) sleeps in our bed and she is now completely house trained, and we are softies.

We do have a stair gate as stairs are really bad for Daxies and she needs to be carried up and down them (when we can catch her).

Summary being, hard work at first, lots of adjustment all round, but the tough times to abate and consistency in the behaviours you want to train and have does work.

So...

...we thought we would blow up our life again and get a black lab puppy. Pick him up mid-May. Totally girding my loins.....

Iamblossom · 17/04/2018 10:54

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Iamblossom · 17/04/2018 10:59

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Iamblossom · 17/04/2018 11:00

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TheStickSong · 17/04/2018 11:50

Hi All - not been on for a while due to having The World's Neediest Puppy but he's finally settled today so I thought I'd pop in and ask for some wisdom/reassurance. We seem to be taking two steps forward and three steps back on everything so tell me, am I doing something wrong, is this normal or is there something wrong?

I can't be out of his sight and still be in the house (weirdly I can leave him and it appears that he is fine - no evidence of chewing or weeing). He will bark like a demon pup until I get back on the same side of the stair gate as him. I have taken to leaving the gate between dining room and living room open if I'm there but he's too small to be going up and down stairs so I have to leave him sometimes.

I am still sleeping in the living room (he's 13wks). In the last couple of days I haven't been able to get him in his crate at all (if I just shut him in he will bark the place down) so he sleeps on top of me on the sofa. Last night I managed to get him to bed down in his crate and I went back to my own bed - he woke around midnight but didn't need a wee, just wanted to sleep on me again. In an attempt to not disturb everyone else I relented.

I think making the bed up downstairs has become a sign for him to have sofa cuddles and I need to re-establish crating. I rarely shut him in yet - only at night and if we have people here. Otherwise I leave it open. If I go out he has the run of the living room but nowhere else. I have just bought him a new comfy cosy bed for it which he appears to like.

Toilet training seems to be going well UNTIL I have to leave him behind a gate (because I'm cooking or going upstairs) when he will bark at me and then wee. I presume this is anxiety rather than properly needing to wee as I'll take him outside before he does this.

And the nipping... I have started being sterner - we were just offering a toy instead of our arms/legs to chew on. Now he's going on the other side of a gate since he's demonstrated quite clearly that he doesn't like this.

Oh God. Am I doing any of this right? We walked around Pets at Home earlier and he was adored by lots of people (a few commented that he was really well-behaved. I laughed. A lot). He also met a few lovely calm dogs and was reasonably polite. I tried to move him along after about 30 seconds to ensure he didn't start jumping. Puppy training was a nightmare because he was terrified of all the noise at first and then someone marched over with their GSD and introduced them when my pup was close to a nervous breakdown. I thought he was going to explode.

Sorry, this is just a stream of consciousness really but the long and short of it is that I don't know what I'm doing and I'm terrified that I will turn him into an anxiety-ridden monster (someone said to me that the most important thing of all was not to be nervous as he would pick up on it.... So that's screwed obviously!)

Hope everyone else is doing ok.

BiteyShark · 17/04/2018 12:15

TheStickSong the biggest thing I found was to stop worrying about creating the worlds worst dog. Sometimes it feels like everything is going wrong that you forget the things that are going well.

If I could go back in time I wouldn't do the puppy socialisation classes as I found them a waste of time and made things worse. Instead I would have invested in a couple of one to one training sessions so if you think your puppy is getting more nervous of things happening in the classes don't be afraid to look elsewhere.

I used to use a baby gate and got him used to me doing things on the other side and going in and out without paying him any real notice. I ignored the whining to be honest but some people advocate that you should never let them cry but I think it's a personal opinion. If you do try that try and do it after your puppy has just been for a pee then you know it's unlikely to result in an accident because at that age they still can't hold their bladders for long.

What I did at night was when he cried I would get up and take him outside even if it was obvious crying for attention. Then after a minute or do I would put him back in his crate and repeat. I never said anything at all to him, no toys were around to play with and if he wanted to play I ignored him. Yes I had to do that a lot of times (very sleep deprived) but he soon realised that night was for sleeping or a quick toilet break.

My dog responded to quick timeouts for nipping more than anything else so you just have to find the right thing for him.

Again don't worry, it's normal to feel like you are going backwards and to worry but they change so much in the following weeks and nothing is set in stone at that age.

ThisIsThe · 17/04/2018 12:24

TheStickSong. I find it really helpful to write down how well or badly the fluff monster is sleeping every night just so I can see if there is a positive pattern (of tiny tiny baby) steps in the right direction.

If he cries in the crate with you in the room would he wake anyone else? I realise you get no sleep maybe that could be the start. Put the crate next to the sofa put him in it and leave him there (apart from wee breaks) until the morning.

TheStickSong · 17/04/2018 13:08

Thanks both - he has now eaten a tulip petal and is looking very sorry for himself (I tried to get it out of his mouth but he can move VERY fast). I am anticipating vomiting shortly. Sad Is this a vet thing or is that just the bulbs?

I think you're right about being a bit sterner. Tonight I'm going to take him out each time he whines, put him in his wee spot, and if nothing happens, he's going back in. Rinse and repeat.

It's difficult to say if he'd wake anyone else - he sounds SO loud. He barks as well as whines.

MilkTrayLimeBarrel · 17/04/2018 15:13

TheStickSong - I may be wrong but I think it is just the tulip bulbs which are poisonous. I have had to pull all mine up before they have even flowered, just in case! I never realised I had to many toxic plants in my garden - but if I get rid of them all, there will be a very bare garden!

Elphame · 17/04/2018 15:21

13 weeks - he's still very very young. I had/have a stairgate across my kitchen door as we are quite open plan so he could be shut in or out as the occasion demanded but could see what was going on.

I also quite often ignored whining - Elfpup has a range of whines and whilst I'd respond instantly to the distress whine (and still do) I tend to ignore the complaining ones for a while.

Elfpup adored puppy socialisation classes. He did stay very close to me at first but soon started to build some confidence. They were carefully monitored though and the more confident puppies kept away from the more nervous ones.

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Elphame · 17/04/2018 15:31

I never realised I had to many toxic plants in my garden - but if I get rid of them all, there will be a very bare garden

Same here - I've left the tulip and daff bulbs in through. I did dig up 6 deadly nightshade plants over the weekend.

Elfpup was a nightmare last autumn. As a tiny he'd try and eat anything. He's a lot more discerning now at 9 months so I'm hoping we'll get away with it as most of my garden seems to be poisonous. He'll come across many of the same plants out on walks anyway so I'm fairly chilled.

Tulip flowers are technically poisonous for dogs but it's the bulbs that are the real danger. I'd probably just keep a close eye on him for a few hours if it's just one petal.

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ThisIsThe · 18/04/2018 06:57

The fluff monster slept all the way to 5:45! 5:45! That is getting scarily close to the holy grail of 6:30am. That means I almost had a night’s sleep.

So she now
-is house trained

  • sleeps sort of
  • Will let me leave her downstairs in the day for half an hour without crying.
  • Spend 1O min in her crate in the day without crying
  • be alone in the car for an hour

Progress is happening.

Still needs to
-let someone other than me walk her

  • work up to spending an hour in her crate in the day
-go outside by herself

Woo Hoo!

thereinmadnesslies · 18/04/2018 14:19

That sounds like good progress This!

Is anyone else’s puppies struggling with the heat today? I took madnesspup to training today but he just wanted to lie in the shade.

Elphame · 18/04/2018 14:39

Yes Elfpup has completely wilted. That double coat of his which is great for keeping the cold and rain out does him no favours.

I took water for him on this mornings walk but I still cut it short as he wasn't happy.

He's in the garden now - he wants to play but after 2 minutes he collapses panting. The house is nice and cool but he prefers to be outside in the sun just coming in for a nice cool drink every so often.

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ThisIsThe · 18/04/2018 16:17

I’ve been giving the fluff monster frozen food today. She seems quite happy chilling in the shade eating cold stuff. This did mean I got to mow the lawn without her usual “help”.

MilkTrayLimeBarrel · 18/04/2018 17:14

Mine keeps going outside and rolling on the grass in the full sun! Have had to bring her in numerous times!