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Puppy Survival Thread Part 6

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Elphame · 04/03/2018 15:46

As thread 5 is almost full!

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BiteyShark · 18/11/2019 18:09

@HarrietBasset join this one as it's actually more recent

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_doghouse/3693086-Puppy-Support-Group-2

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HarrietBasset · 18/11/2019 16:54

Hi, please can i join? I have a 9 week old Miniature dachshund puppy whose gorgeous but exhausting. Ive had puppies before so its not my first rodeo but she's a different beast and my first daxie....crate training is taking forever and she cries if i leave the room. I've had 2 weeks off of work and thankfully am self employed so relatively flexible though I haven't left her home alone yet as the behaviourist wants her to be 100% happy with the crate.
I lost my old lovely dog at Christmas and was desperate for another but frankly this is harder than i remembered Shock

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Plumodivisilobum · 10/09/2019 17:20

I’m having terrible puppy blues, I have looked after other people’s dogs and loved them I was so stupid and naive about having my own puppy. I can’t work from home it’s a nightmare. I train and play with her and pretend but it’s the enormity of the decision. I’m so passionate about my garden and she’s trashing it , argh.):

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Gsppuppyowner · 07/01/2019 14:21

Hi everyone! I really need some advice/help/place to offload! 11 weeks ago me and my fiancé picked up our then 9 week old germain short haired pointer puppy. He’s gorgous but such hard work! He needs to be crated during the day as we both work, although partner works from home for some of day so puppy is never crated for more than 4 hours at a time. Anyway, first night we crated him downstairs and it was awful. We should have known really but he was so distressed my partner ended up on the sofa with him. Since then we have tried various things (worried we are confusing him) in the bedroom on floor etc. The latest routine has been he goes into crate downstairs every night, he has been fine with this and then when he wakes up howling for toilet at around 5am he goes outside and then he comes up on to our bed from 5am until around 7am when we get up. This worked well for several weeks but last few nights the wake up has gone from 5am to 3am and then to 1am and last night midnight! He’s so loud and I’m worried about neighbours as well as him! Plus I am not getting any sleep. I know we have made a rod for our own backs every letting him come up on bed in the first place but I am wondering if anyone has any advice on where we could go from here? Ideally we want him crated downstairs. Any help would be so appreciated! Thanks

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BiteyShark · 31/12/2018 06:36

Desperatelyneedinghelp I am going to guess that actually he isn't that happy on his own so whilst he is ok when asleep once awake and he realises you are gone he is howling for you to come back.

Maybe you need to go back to basics and leave him for less time and gradually build up the time he is happy when awake and alone rather than trying to tire him out to sleep for the length of time you are out. If you can get him happy when awake it won't matter how long he is asleep for iykwim.

Whilst he might be happy in his crate at night it's because he 'knows' you are still in the house. In the day when you are out it's a very different setting.

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Desperatelyneedinghelp · 30/12/2018 21:35

I wonder if I could see if anyone else has had the same problems with their pup.

Walter is our 5 month old cockapoo puppy who we've had since 9 weeks old. When we need to go out he's crated and generally settles down quite happily - we always make sure he's tired / well fed / toileted etc. However, we have a reoccurring problem where Walter sometimes seems to wake up randomly after being asleep for 1 hour / 2 hours / 3 hours (completely random!) and then howls and howls until we come home. We never leave him alone for more than 4 hours at a time and he sleeps perfectly in his crate at night.

We're not sure what is causing the issue during the day - it almost seems like something stirs him and then he realises he's alone. It's becoming a nightmare as it's meaning we can't leave him without fear he'll soon wake up and howl the house down.

Any help / advice on this behaviour would be MUCH appreciate!

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Miffymeow · 17/12/2018 14:08

Radley, it's never too early to start recall training! Our fella is 4 and a half months now, knows many tricks but recall is entirely dependent on his mood haha. Every other trick we can teach him in 10 minutes flat, but recall is a real slow burner, especially when everything else is so interesting. He enjoys biting my boyfriends grandma a lot more than coming back to me Blush

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marioncole · 17/12/2018 07:35

@Autumn2018 I've seen them but haven't used one. I've found a figure of eight collar is working really well. Pup hates it and will often hunker down to try and pull it off. It has made walking more pleasant though.

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Autumn2018 · 14/12/2018 09:12

Does anyone use a shock absorber lead for their strong pulling puppy? A dog walker today was telling me about hers and I've never heard of them before. Is it a gimmick or does it help?

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GhostsToMonsoon · 13/12/2018 15:54

Marioncole - that's awful! My dog sitter said toilet trained is preferable but she has lots of antibacterial wipes if not! Each time I've been one dog has weed on the floor but she's not known which one.

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MuddyWellyNelly · 12/12/2018 19:53

Oh god yes the jumping up. Muddypup is frequently counter surfing, will get up on the table if you leave the chair out a smidge, and today launched over my lap and stole toast off my plate Shock. So we've got some serious work to do on that. One thing I read said you have to keep all surfaces clear because otherwise they get an inadvertent reward for their misdemeanours. Even if it's scoring the dish sponge. This is hard for us as our house has a tiny kitchen but I am working on it.

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marioncole · 12/12/2018 12:54

Big feelings of puppy regret today, but this is because I have flu and he's being a pain in the arse.

17 weeks ish now and the toileting and biting is fairly under control but the jumping, oh the jumping! Particularly the jumping up at the kitchen worktops looking for food. Anyone have any tips?

Also, our doggy daycare asked us not to come back Blush basically because he weed on her floor Hmm He's a puppy, he's bound to have an accident now and then. I think he's remarkably well house trained for a 4 month old. But this means I don't get a break anymore, that one day a week was lovely and meant I could get some proper work done.

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austech · 24/11/2018 01:58

He was Shock, not :o

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austech · 24/11/2018 01:57

austechpuppy at 11 weeks is still at the bitey stage too. I yelp and whine which stops him in his tracks. I've enrolled him (by which I mean me) in puppy school, which is fab for all the socialising they can't do until the vax kick in. Also full of sound advice for the owners. The one I find hardest is the one to ignore the puppy when you come home/get up in the morning. Make that cup of tea, only hug and pat when they calm down. It works.

He knows sit and stay, and without any training on my part, sits patiently when I'm making his food up, and doesn't get up until I put the bowl on the floor. I took him to the sea last week, which he had never seen and he was :o for a few minutes, but a stick thrown in had him swimming for it immediately. Murrays are all working dogs who make good pets, They can't stop themselves.Smile

He only poos outside now, though peeing is unreliable. I put him outside for a pee every morning when he gets up, and at night before his basket. Every hour in between.

I'm fortunate in that it's the Australian spring now, and I can put him in the front garden and keep an eye on him through the screen door. It's nice for him as he can lie close to the door, keep warm and not feel put outside. And I can hear any havoc being wreaked!!

He's had his second vax, and in a week's time can join the other dogs on the oval. Yippee. He has so much energy to burn I can'y wait to get him out for walks. I spent this morning fitting a baby gate to limit access to the back of the house and upstairs. He is nibbly as hell and I need to be able to keep doors open to air the house.

So good to hear updates on other puppies.

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ouchyoubiteybugger · 22/11/2018 22:21

Bitey dog goes in crate 10:30 - 5:30 am without fuss, we leave magic radio on over night ( she howls to smooth radio ) this took 3 days of howling and just coming down at 2:30am for pre breaks no talking or interaction.
5:30am she is up and straight outside for pee and poo, then play 15mins and then breakfast.
More play then outside for pre or poop then fuss and training on commands. Then into crate 8:15 - 11 am the 30 mins outside for play and pre and poop then back in crate till 3pm then out for lunch and play till dinner at 8pm play, training etc until 9pm when she takes herself to bed and we call her to go out for pre or poop at 10:15pm before bed.

She's 9 weeks and will now sit, give paw, speak and lay down on command she cries for 2-4 mins max going in the crate but has blankets, toys and water in there nd is happy.
No idea how to stop the persistent biting though !

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karala · 22/11/2018 15:59

crate training for house training is basically letting her sleep in there overnight with the door shut - I have the crate next to my bed and she makes a noise when she needs to go out and then we pop her out, no noise, play or discussion and pop her back in to her crate and she goes back to sleep. I cover the crate completely overnight. Last night she went through until 5.30 this morning. If you don't want the crate in your room then it's a bit more complicated because you'll have to set an alarm to keep getting up. And day time housetraining is just putting her out after food, play, sleep, anything you can think of. It's hard work doing that with young DCs and I'm lucky that I don't have that to worry about

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Luckystar1 · 22/11/2018 12:37

Oh thank you! I need something as I’m getting confused with a multitude of differing advice!

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Fishypieandmash · 22/11/2018 12:29

I’ve discovered a really good Facebook group ...
Dog Training Advice and Support.

Has some great advice and experts can address individual problems too.

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Luckystar1 · 22/11/2018 11:40

Oh crap, I see you are taking about yours being alone..! Hmm yes, I have taken the view that it’s a bit like dropping children at nursery, the initial separation is the worst...! In saying that, we have no neighbours so I have no clue what he does when I leave!

I do leave the TV on, or LBC at night... he’s very up on current affairs 😂😂

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Luckystar1 · 22/11/2018 11:38

Thank you that is helpful! As to crate training... what does that mean? We have a crate and the puppy will happily go into it to eat and drink and rest and play. He will go off and sleep in it, but I haven’t trained him, he just does...! I don’t close the door yet.

He doesn’t poo/pee in the crate, but on paper outside it. Which is good, but not ideal!

I don’t think I’m fit to train anything 😂😂

How is yours in the crate? I’m sure you are already doing it, but right from the start we had a blanket and soft toy that we had bought for him and left with the litter so they smelled of his mum/siblings. I have added 2 big teddies both wearing my t-shirts that I have worn to bed so they smell like me...

I also have a stuffed kong in there occasionally. But as I say, I haven’t a clue, he just goes there when he wants.

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karala · 22/11/2018 11:31

We are crate training the pup which is a massive help with the housetraining
When ours was 10 weeks old she was on 4 meals a day on a 12 hour cycle so I fed her at 6.30am, 11.30am, 4.00pm and 6.30pm - the last one was a very small feed. I split her daily allowance into a larger breakfast, 2 smaller meals and then a tiny supper. We moved her to 3 meals a day when she was 12 weeks
If you can make my pup stop crying when she is alone then I will housetrain your pup! Grin

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Luckystar1 · 22/11/2018 10:00

Oh I should say, he’s 10 weeks old

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Luckystar1 · 22/11/2018 09:59

Here is a pic of him!

Puppy Survival Thread Part 6
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Luckystar1 · 22/11/2018 09:57

Hello all! We got our cocker spaniel dog puppy on Saturday and he is a darling. A really good boy (so far). I was wondering however if I could get your pointers please?

  1. How much exercise are your pups getting and what sort of times?


  1. Toilet training... not going well here as he only seems to poo over night or when I’m not in the house (the only times I leave him are for school run at 8.30 and 1pm) and only for 30 mins max at a time. I’m trying not to stress about it, but so far I’ve only ever caught him pooing outside once so did the who fanfare thing.


Pees are also in the house, but he seems to use the mats for these. I take him outside frequently but no matter how long we are out for we get nothing.

I have two young children (2 & 4) so I can’t wait outside indefinitely unfortunately.

  1. Food - how often should I be feeding and roughly what times? We are up at around 6.30am and go to bed at 10pm. I read something recently from a very old thread to not feed after a certain time to prevent over night pooing. But I’m not sure if this is recommended.


Thank you!!!
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karala · 22/11/2018 07:32

our pup is managing to go for 7 hours overnight now and can be resettled because the crate is still next to my bed. The main problem is her howling when she is left and I'm working on this slowly but not seeing much benefit yet. We have a behaviouralist coming tomorrow who can tell us what a mess we're making of it although I really do feel that we're following all the guidelines

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