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Puppy Survival Thread Part 6

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Elphame · 04/03/2018 15:46

As thread 5 is almost full!

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BirdyBedtime · 13/11/2018 11:28

karala Birdypup is also a show cocker and 6 months old - she stills cries when we are in the house but she's not with us - so if we go upstairs she'll sit at the bottom (stair gate) and cry - if we talk to her she sometimes will stop. And if we are cleaning she goes in her pen and again howls quite a bit.

But when we put her in the pen and then actually go out she only howls until the front door closes and then stops so it's just that when we are in the house she wants to be with us.

unicorn - Birdypup is getting a bit like that too - she was coming really well when out but now pretty much ignores us. I've stopped shouting 'come' as I think we've pretty much had so many ignores that we've undone all of the earlier training. So she's only off lead when there is absolutely no other distractions. It's the dreaded teens I think. BTW unicornpup is just gorgeous

karala · 13/11/2018 12:55

oh that's helpful Birdy - I was starting to worry that I may have some sort of separation anxiety thing going on. I'm really hoping that once I can take her out properly there will be more going on in her life and things might settle down.

jenjen73 · 13/11/2018 14:17

Hello, can I jump in? Sorry for the long post but I need to vent. Some advice would be good too!

We have a 3 month old Cockapoo called Bertie, he's a very cute pup but the last week has seen a deterioration in his behaviour. There are a number of possible factors. I don't think he's getting enough sleep; he started walking on Friday, the same day the bad behaviour ramped up; he seems to be biting more and I'm wondering if he's teething?

At night he's a complete superstar – he goes into his crate without a single complaint and sleeps from 10pm to 7am when our alarm goes off and he's allowed out. During the day, it's another matter. He is extremely clingy and follows me everywhere. I give him two sessions in the crate during the day – a morning session lasting an hour and a half and a shorter afternoon session lasting maybe 30 minutes. He goes in happily (because of the kong) but once that's finished (within minutes) he'll cry for a good 10 minutes before going quiet for half an hour and then will cry again non-stop until we let him out. When he's not in the crate, he's glued to my side and will only rest if I stay still (he's at my feet as I write). So all in all, I reckon a generous estimate would be 11–12 hours sleep a day. I read somewhere that puppies should be getting 18–20 hours – clearly Bertie didn't get that memo.

I'm sure the lack of sleep is making him cranky. He scratches, digs, bites and charges around like a lunatic and it's like a red rag to a bull whenever we open up the door to let him into the front room. I've tried playing with him to tire him out but it only makes him more insane.

Obedience training (working on 'sit' and 'down' – ''come is effin pointless cause he's never far enough away) can settle him sometimes but not always. I do my best with positive re-inforcement and will praise him if I see him being a good pup. I also try not to tell him off, distract him with other toys and don't interact with him when he's biting me (easier said than done).

He was properly house trained after maybe three weeks but lately has been getting lazy and/stressed and frequently wees on the floor without asking to go out. Talking of which, I'm up and down like a bloody yo-yo because the majority of the time he just wants to go out to dig up a stone to chew on and then wants to come straight back in to bite my ankles.

I wonder if he's bored and needs more stimulation but there is a limit to how much time I can dedicate.

The walking is slightly baffling. He loves it when I get the lead out but as soon as I open the door, he just roots to the spot – it can't be the weather because he's out in it all the time. We shuffle along at a snail's pace and then an invisible line will be crossed and he'll belt off all of a sudden before grinding to a halt again almost as quickly. I know spaniels are tricky to lead train so I'm being patient/gritting my teeth on that front.

Wondering if I should invest in a playpen or get a clicker and try training him with that. Or maybe stick him in the crate for a good two-three hours and let him cry? It's interesting that the overnight crating quickly became a positive thing after maybe two nights of just leaving him to cry. Why is it so much harder during the day?

Autumn2018 · 13/11/2018 14:24

What do people do when out walking - most puppies jump up, but they have to be led off the lead sometimes! Do you all drive miles to the countryside every day, to find a remote spot, or something?

I find it impossible to stop my 16 week old jumping when greeting people.

MuddyWellyNelly · 13/11/2018 17:40

Jenjen just a partial answer but I'd try tiring out his brain more rather than the physical stuff. Even just hiding a few treats around and letting him sniff them out. Also maybe try to calm him before he goes in his crate by holding him, rather than playing? We find Muddypup doesn't usually settle if he is hyper just beforehand.

Autumn I keep him on a lead in town but luckily a short walk in every direction can get me to spaces I can let him off lead. I try to only do this when there is no-one around as there are lots of young kids near us. He does sometimes jump up at my toddler and I can't imagine another parent loving that. I keep my eyes peeled then when I see someone, run like a lunatic in the opposite direction shreaking puppuppup in a high pitched voice. So far he's always run towards me and so he gets a treat and a huge fuss. Today however he came back, then when I let him go ran after a lady - first time ever. Luckily he did come back again using the above technique.

I'm going to have to work harder on toilet training though. He's pee'd inside twice today. Once just now, he was having a drink then just turned towards the living room and pee'd immediately. Sigh.

jenjen73 · 13/11/2018 18:30

Ah thanks MuddyWelly, those are really good suggestions that I haven't tried yet. Wondering if I should make his Kong a little bit more challenging. I push the kibble in hard but he gets it out in no time. I've avoided all other food up to now because he had runny poos for ages when we brought him home.

Had a much better walk with him this afternoon. We're making some progress and I gave him lots of praise. Then about 5 minutes after getting back, he started zooming around the place for a good half hour. He even barked at me during an obedience training session, which he has never really done before (my failed attempt to calm him down – LOL).

MuddyWellyNelly · 13/11/2018 19:21

If you have a look at the FB group Canine Enrichment there are lots of good ideas. Some people never bowl feed (assuming you are feeding kibble, not raw) and use a variety of things like snuffle mats to slow down the meal process. Out on walks I sometimes just throw a bit of his kibble into the grass and get him to sniff it out. You could measure out the day's food and just do training/distraction type stuff throughout the day.

We also get the completely crazy thing after a walk. It's annoying when you think you can get some stuff done when you get home!

Enni2S · 14/11/2018 10:24

After not having an accident for almost a week, Ennpup had 3 accidents in the space of one day! I'm aware that he's only 10 weeks old Grin but I am a little gutted as he was doing so good. Ah well, back to start it is I guess!

GColdtimer · 14/11/2018 23:12

Anyone else's puppy difficult to settle after vaccinations? Our pup has been in a funny mood today and cried when I put him in his crate. Could be a long night!

karala · 15/11/2018 08:25

Hi twofalls hope your night wasn't too bad - our pup slept a lot after vaccinations

Strongecoffeeismydrug · 15/11/2018 20:48

This naughty pupster steals socks and hides them in the garden.
The pic of him is when he was 2 months then 4 months.
He's now 5 months and blooming cute lol .

Puppy Survival Thread Part 6
GColdtimer · 15/11/2018 21:43

Thanks karala. It was pretty bad! But he has been back to normal self today so fingers crossed. I am so tired!

GColdtimer · 15/11/2018 22:12

He settled in crate ok. Fingers crossed!

karala · 16/11/2018 11:02

hey twofalls hope you all got some sleep - my pup seems to have turned a bit of a corner and is being far less noisy and much more settled. As from the middle of next week we'll be able to take her out for walks and I think that might be really good for us all.

ouchyoubiteybugger · 16/11/2018 19:07

Hi everyone can I join, unfortunately I can't seem to post picks but our husky x is 2 months old and we've had her a week. So far she's doing well in her crate, I used a smaller one to start and then after 4 nights introduced a full size adult crate which she is more than happy in overnight and for naps. Toilet training is hit or miss depending on who's watching her ( or his phone- dh I'm looking at you !) But my main issue right now is the nipping and morning singing in the garden at 5:30 am.

MuddyWellyNelly · 16/11/2018 19:52

Hello @ouchyoubiteybugger (great name!)

Does anyone have tips on barking? Previously sleep wasn't an issue but muddypup has had some unsettled nights. We went away for a few days with him and 2 out of 4 nights resulted in me sleeping on the sofa as he barked incessantly. This morning he whined at 5.30 so DH let him out for a pee; again he just barks and barks from that point on. He's been with me all day but we went out for a couple of hours this evening. Came home to put DS to bed and he's downstairs barking again. The neighbours must love us. To be honest this evening I sort of get; he's been alone for a while and we've come home to mostly ignore him. But he has to slot in to our routine but right now I feel like he's totally dictating ours. He's 17 weeks. Confused

Ginslinger · 16/11/2018 20:46

muddy - are you crating your pup? I have been very lucky with mine because although she's noisy in the day she sleeps well in the crate which I cover completely -

MuddyWellyNelly · 16/11/2018 20:59

@Ginslinger he is crated but I don't cover it. You cover all 4 sides?

Ginslinger · 16/11/2018 21:28

muddy yes but only for proper bedtime at night - she is in full lockdown darkness and my understanding is that it makes her feel safe plus avoids distractions

MuddyWellyNelly · 16/11/2018 21:37

What do you cover it with? I'd worry about heat/air?

ouchyoubiteybugger · 17/11/2018 05:37

Hi muddy and gin yes we cover our crate too with a empty duvet cover. But tbh we just do a full on training session and playtime for 30-45 mins before bed so she's nice and tired.

Autumn2018 · 17/11/2018 06:39

What do you do for playtime? Tug of war can get a bit bitey after a while with our pup, fetch is apparently a no-no for their joints according to my vet, so I don't throw a ball hard but more roll it gently so there isn't such stress on the muscles.
Hide and seek with toys in a blanket, chase with something she thinks she's not supposed to have (and I get the naughty puppy grinning, sidelong glances sort of look)!
Other than that I am short of ideas!

ouchyoubiteybugger · 17/11/2018 08:52

Tug of war is a favourite we are using it to teach ' leave it' ' take it ' and bite inhibitions. I had my doubts but as of last night she really let's go if she grabs a hand in error.

Enni2S · 17/11/2018 22:54

I do play fetch with Ennpup, it is really tiring to treat my puppy like a quarantined child with a terminal disease. Can't wait to get Ennpup out on walks next weekShock

duplodancer · 18/11/2018 21:27

Hi all, sorry I've been awol for a while for various reasons and haven't read the recent posts but just thought it might be encouraging to know I've gone from abject misery to doggy delight since I last posted.
Our first month was honestly hell on Earth. I spent most of it in tears and normal life just stopped. Things still aren't perfect but 3 months on it's all completely manageable and mostly enjoyable. Just thought that might reassure people who are where we were a while back!
(I may be back here in tears next week but for now..)

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