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Puppy’s first night - what do I do about the crying???

111 replies

AnonimityMary · 24/11/2017 22:17

The puppy training book i have says to ignore it but he’s been crying and barking constantly since I put him to bed f45 mins ago. He is in a crate in the living room with lots of blankets and toys.

Is it right that I shouldn’t go back in no matter what? Should I leave a light on (I haven’t)? The radio? He’s so sad it’s breaking my heart.

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SwimmingInTheBlueLagoon · 25/11/2017 09:00

along various behavioural studies.

SwimmingInTheBlueLagoon · 25/11/2017 09:01

Or, they figure out, I'm in no danger here, time for sleep.

No animal can learn that when in distress!

SwimmingInTheBlueLagoon · 25/11/2017 09:02

Also your ridiculous statement about the horses shows you have no concept of animal needs, physical or psychological needs.

SwimmingInTheBlueLagoon · 25/11/2017 09:03

*differing animal species physical or psychological needs

AlongStoryShort · 25/11/2017 09:06

Oh I thought they were all like new-born babies?

SwimmingInTheBlueLagoon · 25/11/2017 09:10

Your really struggling to answer now aren't you? Your posts are getting more and more ridiculous.

I never said animals were like newborn babies. I did state that the distress caused in puppies being left to cry overnight and babies left the same has been found to have the same result through beha

SwimmingInTheBlueLagoon · 25/11/2017 09:10

.... Studies

SwimmingInTheBlueLagoon · 25/11/2017 09:11

Got to go for a while now

Ojoj1974 · 25/11/2017 09:15

I let my puppy sleep with me.... he is now a happy and well adjusted young dog!!!

AnonimityMary · 25/11/2017 09:18

Peace and love guys. Why are debates in 2017 so polarised? It’s like dialogue has died and people just bat strong opinions back and forth with increasing self righteousness and nastiness. Could it be that’s it’s horses for courses and everything is more nuanced than we care to admit.

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Nomoretears56 · 25/11/2017 09:44

Glad you all managed to get some sleep Smile. I said to go with your instinct because I went with mine, one dog wanted comfort and company and she got it, another was quite happy to be settled and then left. No 2 dogs are the same. I agree with you OP about the nastiness on here, you asked for some help not for people to get arsey with each other!! Peace and love folks, peace and love Smile

ThespianTendencies · 25/11/2017 11:46

Blimey, how confusing!! Every comment contradicts the previous one. When I got my lab (rescued at 11 weeks old) he howled and barked and was an absolute nightmare when left in his crate overnight. I was in despair with it all thinking I had made a monumental blunder in getting him. However, I brought his crate upstairs and left the door open (in my room) and he settled fairly quickly. About a week later I put him downstairs with the crate open - incidentally - he loathed the crate with a passion and made his feelings abundantly clear and he was fine from then on. I say let him stay in your room first until he gets to know the house routine - good luck!

BiteyShark · 25/11/2017 12:17

OP you will get a lot of strong opinions on here (for and against leaving them to cry, having them in your room or downstairs etc).

Every puppy is different just as every household is different. Research all the different techniques but at the end of the day I would go with what you are happy with.

Elphame · 25/11/2017 12:31

I couldn't bear the thought of my baby pup crying alone downstairs feeling scared and abandoned so the crate was at the bottom of my bed for the first two nights and he settled immediately with barely a whimper. 3rd night the crate was on the landing, again settled immediately.

By the end of the first week the crate and the pup were in the kitchen overnight. No distress or upset at all and no sleepless nights for any of us.

He loves his crate. I'd like to get rid of it completely as it's served its purpose now, we never close the door, but he loves it - it's his!

noitsnotteatimeyet · 25/11/2017 12:36

We took it in turns to sleep downstairs next to dpup’s crate. The first night he woke up twice and needed a wee, the next two nights he woke up once, and by the end of the week he was sleeping through until about 5:30. We never once had any crying and he’s always been a brilliant sleeper. I can’t see why you’d leave a puppy to cry when it’s so easy to avoid them getting distressed in the first place

flutterby12 · 25/11/2017 14:08

It's so hard. The first night we had our dog home she slept fine the first night in her crate (I however was awake waiting for her to cry). After that she got cheeky and started whimpering/crying/barking. I couldn't and wouldn't ignore her so I would go down and see if she needed the loo, if she didn't I reassured her then put her back in her crate and would say 'no' firmly. She got the hang of it after a week and when she did cry I knew it was because she needed the loo. After a year we got rid of the crate and she ended up in bed with us 😂 she now sleeps on the sofa downstairs

flutterby12 · 25/11/2017 14:08

We also had a ticking clock and hot water bottle

Sarahh2014 · 25/11/2017 14:18

What breed is it? I've got a Chi and had no problems with him crying however my dh Staffy pup at the time had to sleep in a shoe box next to the bed lol

Eolian · 25/11/2017 14:24

Ours never stopped howling. In sleep-deprived desperation we eventually gave in and put his bed in our bedroom. Not a peep out of him after that, and he decided he was happy to sleep downstairs after about another month and has never slept in the bedroom since or had any other separation issues (he's 3 now).

AgainPlease · 25/11/2017 17:51

Your poor little puppy! We tried so hard with our dog to make him sleep downstairs - he had blankets, toys, a crate, a playpen, we did everything the dog training books told us to do... but he’d just cry and cry at night and it was heartbreaking. After about 2 months of sleepless nights we got rid of the crate, got rid of the playpen, moved his bed to just outside our bedroom door and never had any issues since!

WeAllHaveWings · 25/11/2017 19:43

Dh slept downstairs with ours until he slept through, only took a few nights.

Leaving a new pup, just separated from its mum and siblings crying and terrified alone is very unkind. If you don’t want the inconvenience and responsibility of a pup don’t get one.

Rosa · 25/11/2017 19:45

watching with interest pup arriving 11 December and it will be late afternoon so not much time to settle in before night !

ProseccoMamam · 25/11/2017 19:58

You have 2 options

1-ignore the crying and within a week you'll have a happy, not anxious, lovely little puppy for your family and you will be the 'boss'

2-go down and check on the pup/let it sleep in your room and have a dog with separation anxiety, fur all over your bed and a dog who walks all over you because you didn't show you were the pack leader

Dogs are pack animals and are proven to react better to discipline and boundaries. It will be hard for the first couple of nights but worth it in the long run-a lot of people get rid of dogs because they spoil them too much at first and end up with a whiney disobedient jumper upper who mouthes their kids for attention and has separation issues because it was treated as a human baby

Wolfiefan · 25/11/2017 20:07

@ProseccoMamam
Pack theory is outdated and completely disproven.
You have a choice. Either allow your puppy to get distressed. Or have it near you. The first will not result in separation anxiety. The second may well do.
The dog may shut up after a week. Not because it's happy and settled but because it has learned that when it is upset no one comes.
Later the proper separation anxiety sets in.

alittlehelp · 25/11/2017 20:12

If dogs are pack animals why would you make them sleep alone?