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Need to get rid of dog !

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user68753367 · 06/02/2017 14:30

We bought a dog 8 months ago where we have tried to train him.... he doesn't listen he still nips and snaps and it's now getting to the point where he is jumping up and going for my toddler and you can hear his jaw snap ! It's scaring me as I can't leave them in the room together he does it to me and my bf he tries to bite his ankles and he's the master so it's in heard of isn't it ? He knows not to go on the couch yet still runs in covered in mud and going on there he's not allowed up stairs but as soon as back is turned he's up there.... we've always told him no and made sure he knows and he does get praised when he's good (which is never ) he chews everything up in site and will just take food of the side and out of my boys hand, I'm currently pregnant and it's getting me so anxious ! He goes on walks everyday so he's excersised a lot. He doesn't listen to me whatso ever and when I play with him he gets aggressive to the point it scares me. Any advice would be helpful ? No nastiness please I'm at by whits end

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WaitrosePigeon · 06/02/2017 18:35

They can just argue amongst themseleves Smile

Just hide it love. You're pregnant and distressed enough as it is. X

WaitrosePigeon · 06/02/2017 18:35

Themselves even!

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teaforbreakfast · 06/02/2017 18:35

Do you know Waitrose I normally would agree.

But

The likelihood of this dog being rehomed is low.

Furthermore, OP has done nothing 'correctly' thus far and I don't think she will rehome responsibly. The dog will be on gumtree before the month is out.

So

It's best if a solution can be found that keep the dog where he is.

WaitrosePigeon · 06/02/2017 18:37

Tea I don't disagree with what most people are saying here - but the way it has all been put across by some people is revolting.

People fuck up, people make mistakes. I'm really saddened at how the OP has been treated on this thread.

MimsyFluff · 06/02/2017 18:37

YouHadMeAtCake did you mean to be so rude! OP is pregnant fgs

Wolfiefan · 06/02/2017 18:38

Blistory yes she is. This is one of the hardest things I have ever done OP. I bloody love this dog but if I leave her alone she eats the wall (working on that!) she has separation anxiety (working on that too!) and will "bite" mouthe me if she's hungry or over excited. I am pretty much dedicating my almost every waking hour to ensuring she is safe and doesn't hurt anyone and training progresses. Yes it's that intense. But I love this dog and would be posting similar to the OP in 6 months if I didn't do all this.
She sleeps through the night in her pen. Because I slept near her for three weeks to slowly train her to sleep there.
She mostly "leaves" the cat. Due to careful introduction and use of a longline when necessary.
She's dry overnight. See above. We also have a baby monitor so I can dash and let her out as soon as she wakes.
She is praised for every positive thing.
I watch her and interupt all negative behaviour. Yep dishwasher chewing and bum (mine) biting.
It's exhausting but she's already turning into a lovely family pet.
And I have LOTS of expert friends and professionals and am grabbing all the advice I can.

teaforbreakfast · 06/02/2017 18:39

People absolutely do make mistakes but this is a mistake that is sortable.

SukeyTakeItOffAgain · 06/02/2017 18:41

Please do not homeschool your children

What an awful thing to say Shock No need at all. Are you going to apologise for your rudeness?

5OBalesofHay · 06/02/2017 18:41

How nasty some of these posts are. OP rehome the dog. If you keep it at best you'll be really stressed and at worst a child will get hurt. And ignore the spiteful comments.

YouHadMeAtCake · 06/02/2017 18:41

I agree Tea he will then go to god knows who as she will be the sort that advertises him as ''free to a good home'' which will likely guarantee he gets anything but a good home and probably end up with dog fighters.

I despair of people treating animals so poorly. This poor dog is on his at least second home and will likely end up with more. I spend my time rescuing and picking up the pieces caused by stupid and cruel people.

It is never ending and if you're more concerned about children , this is how they get bitten and killed.

Solasum · 06/02/2017 18:42

You should never leave a dog alone with a small child OP.

WaitrosePigeon · 06/02/2017 18:42

I do agree Tea, I just wish people wouldn't be so fucking hard on people sometimes. We are all fighting our own battles.

OneWithTheForce · 06/02/2017 18:43

A few examples of where you have let the dog down wrt training and how you have got yourself in this situation.

He knows not to go on the couch yet still runs in covered in mud

Who isn't cleaning him before he comes in? If the mud is a problem then you need to clean him. He doesn't know he is muddy.

he's not allowed up stairs but as soon as back is turned he's up there

Get a stair gate. Very simple.

will just take food of the side and out of my boys hand

He shouldnt be anywhere near your child when he isn't eating.

even when out walking he runs after other dogs also

Train recall and use a lead.

He still also wees in there and chews his beds up

Let him out more often, recognise his cues for needing a pee, reinforce toilet training.

Seriously, you've been badly lacking in the very basic common sense stuff. You shouldn't have a dog.

Blistory · 06/02/2017 18:45

I would agree that giving an OP a hard time is usually uncalled for and unnecessary but we're talking about the safety of a toddler, a yet to be born baby and a bouncy young terrier with no satisfactory training.

It's no good telling the OP that it will be okay when the consquences of how she chooses to interact with this dog could be fatal. Most likely for the dog but the OP doesn't get a pass on her attitude simply for being pregnant. Not when she has ignored the helpful posts and demonstrated an unwillingness to accept her role in keeping everyone safe.

teaforbreakfast · 06/02/2017 18:45

That we are, Waitrose

OP, it's up to you, it's ultimately your life and your conscience, but you do need to be mindful of the fact you chose a fighting breed with a toddler. Staffs can be fab, but personally speaking they aren't for me. They are very, very powerful and strong.

But you have him now.

You have time to make a good choice and the right choice. It's hard, yes, but doable.

YouHadMeAtCake · 06/02/2017 18:45

Yes fluff of course i meant it. She claims to have trained him '' to her best knowledge'' which is in fact, zero. If you cant train a puppy you definitely would be very unwise to homeschool children . No I wont apologize offagain as I see no need. Maybe the Op should apologize for calling us names and ranting?

Wolfiefan · 06/02/2017 18:46

One with. So true.
OP has had a hard time. Justifiably so. If the post was "how have I let my dog get so out of control? Tell me how to access help!" They would have got a very different response.
OP has got this all very wrong it persists in defending it has nothing to do with how they have handled this pup.

YouHadMeAtCake · 06/02/2017 18:47

Being pregnant is irrelevant , if she can dish it out she can take it. Why post at all if it upsets her?

teaforbreakfast · 06/02/2017 18:47

I think even if you sympathise hugely with OP, the title is awful.

SukeyTakeItOffAgain · 06/02/2017 18:48

Blistory, I agree. This post needed bluntness e.g this dog could seriously harm or kill your children if you don't take some decisive action. YouHadMeAtCake's post just sounded spiteful.

MimsyFluff · 06/02/2017 18:50

There is no need to be so bitchy to the OP and calling her an unfit mother! It's people like you that give mumsnet a bad name it's pure school playground behaviour spiteful and bullying

Soubriquet · 06/02/2017 18:51

I think the OP has heard enough "hard truths"

Yes she fucked up. She now knows that.

It's very hard to walk away from a puppy in a horrible situation. That's how most puppy farm dogs get adopted. Because people can't walk away.

She thought she was training him well but obviously not as well as she thought.

She is now scared for her child and is trying to do her best for both dog and child.

Like any mother and pet owner would do.

I don't know about you lot, but if my dog ever went for my kids, no matter how much training I do, I would never relax around that dog. I would constantly be on edge...and that's an exhausting way to live not to mention a hugely stressful situation for the dog itself.

This is where "if you have nothing nice or helpful to suggest, I would advise you leave the thread" comes in.

The OP has been amazingly restraint with her parenting skills being examined like this

Frankly if someone called me a neglectful and abusive mother you would get a lot more back

MimsyFluff · 06/02/2017 18:52

YouHadMeAtCake name calling a person is bad enough name calling a woman who is pregnant is cruel on the un-born child

teaforbreakfast · 06/02/2017 18:53

There is, actually, a need.

Here is the thing. I do find sometimes on mumsnet people are cruel and cutting for no reason.

However, much of the site is based around the premise of straight talking. I think we all would do well to remember that.

We have a mother of a very young child who is about to have another.

She bought a fighting breed, a strong, vastly powerful breed, from a home riddled with drugs and knowingly came home with that dog.

Now she wants to 'get rid of it.'

That is hugely irresponsible behaviour. I'm not going to apologise for saying that.