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Unwanted dog mating, prevent pregnancy?

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talksensetome · 01/01/2017 15:19

My boyfriend has two dogs, a bitch rottweiler and a pedigree Belgian malinous, the bitch is two and a half and in season. He stupidly let them out together as he thought the dog was too young at 9 months to lock on to her.

As it happens he has. Obviously it is not a good idea to cross those breeds and the pregnancy won't be going ahead. Is yhe really a way to prevent a pregnancy like the morning after pill for dogs?

He is going to ring around the vets and see if there is one open today.

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Shriek · 02/01/2017 18:13

Yeah. Started thinking this too.
(do I detect a ring of bollx)

Shriek · 02/01/2017 18:17

Oops ... X-posted

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talksensetome · 02/01/2017 18:19

He couldn't ring the vet as he was in work. I don't know why anyone would make this up!
I have posted lots before about my own dog.
The etc doesn't know that the dogs live together, he didn't ask and I didn't mention it, I just passed the information on. Now you have pointed it out though it is glaringly obvious.
He did text his boss and his boss recommended he get in touch with the vet and told him he is an idiot for letting it happen, what did he think would happen etc.

The breeder/boss is connected to the pup (Belgian Mal), nothing to do with the bitch (Rottwieler) who won't be breeding at any point.

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Shriek · 02/01/2017 18:20

To be fair (to the vet) they could havethe benefit of the doubt in either not being told the story or not seeing through the 'stud boy and responsible owner bollx'

BertrandRussell · 02/01/2017 18:20

And talking of bollocks- are you saying you didn't notice that the dog had some?

Shriek · 02/01/2017 18:25

Why does breeder/boss think he's too much of an irresponsible owner
twat to be involved in this way. Then sorry dont rate breeder or his choice of staff who dont seem to learn anything whilst working at a STUD!

OneWithTheForce · 02/01/2017 18:27

what's coming across here is that everyone is being fed a censored story. The vet didn't have the full story, you certainly don't, and the breeder doesn't have any idea the dog was bought as a stud dog. But it sounds like breeder isn't all that hot either as they will just sell to someone so clearly thick inexperienced and wouldn't have them sign a no breeding contract.

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talksensetome · 02/01/2017 18:28

I didn't notice which dog had some what?

Bf and I don't live together, I wasn't there when they got it on. I only know about it be a useful bf rang me saying he was late for work because the dogs had licked. He was stressed because he didn't think the pup was old enough and he would have to find out what to do about potential pregnancy.

He text me later and asked could I ring the vets and ask about the mismate injection.

I had asked for advice here off my own back.

I spoke with the vet this morning, could have been the receptionist, nurse, vet I don't know. She asked the breed of dog and weight and when the mating had happened. She then went off the phone and came back with the price of the injections and recommended if we didn't intend breeding that she was too be spayed after the next season. She didn't ask how mating occurred or where the dog lived ot anything.

I asked bf why he hadn't had the dogs done and he said he is going to stuff the pup when it is old enough.

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OneWithTheForce · 02/01/2017 18:28

Sounds like a load of money hungry men using dogs to line their pockets.

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talksensetome · 02/01/2017 18:31

Oh Bert no I didn't notice the dogs bollocks as I don't know the dog, neither are my dog and I have only seen pictures of the Mal, I have met the bitch before but the pup is not keen on other male dogs apparently so we only socialise my dog with his bitch. My dog has been done.

I can only repeat what I have been told and I don't know how much is true. I only came out to ask how to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

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TrionicLettuce · 02/01/2017 18:32

Pretty sure I've found the breeder involved and all I would suggest to your BF is that he do plenty of research himself before deciding to go ahead with anything.

tabulahrasa · 02/01/2017 18:33

The vet has recomended the easiest treatment physically on the bitch... A spay during pregnancy or with another season imminent (as it will be after the mismate injection) is harder to do and comes with more risks to the bitch.

So it's standard to give the injection wait for a season and then spay between them because that is the safest way for the bitch.

OP, to prevent them mating yes in theory all he had to do is keep them apart, in practise that is quite hard as they'll both be trying to get to each other.

It might be worth him actually talking that bit over with the vet before they decide whether to go with the mismate injection or spaying.

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talksensetome · 02/01/2017 18:38

Thanks Tri reading between the lines I am guessing they are less reputable than I thought? I am way out of my depth here, I struggled being competent at pet dog owning and had to get lots of advice regarding my own rescued dog so professional dog owning, working, breeding is far out of my grasp.

Tabulah I am glad it makes some sense I was really starting to wonder what I had misunderstood.

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OneWithTheForce · 02/01/2017 18:38

tab couldn't they spay now? If she has conceived it was only yesterday.

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talksensetome · 02/01/2017 18:45

It does say they are licensed breeders and that sire and dam are health tested including hip and elbow. Plus some stuff about ipo testing but that is related to training ground I think.

Again the bf may just have it in his head that he will be able to stud this pup without having actually looked into the process/possibility. We only had a very brief conversation with him being in work.

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Shriek · 02/01/2017 18:54

*...why 'doesn't ... Sorry about my awful typos!!! Gah!

Shriek · 02/01/2017 19:02

Really horrified about your bf's lack of responsibility. His ddog at 9months cant be around other males. Any reputable breeder of good temperament ddogs wouldnt touch him.

You come across as if its you being fed the bollox and hes might just be making it up as he goes along. With thay temperment he should get ddig castrated once finished growing and in meantime get some sound behaviourist work.

Shriek · 02/01/2017 19:06

They're not up to much as breeders if they didnt already know there was an entire young bitch already in the home and not to have asked him his plans about that an refuse to sell a male dpup under those circumstances.

I do wonder where this young dpup is all the while he is out working with the rotti?

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talksensetome · 02/01/2017 19:09

You might be right, I am very gullible and I could be soaking up a puddle of shit, tbh we haven't really discussed the dogs much before now. He sees my dog when he comes round to mine and we sometimes walk my dog and his bitch together but his are working dogs not pets so we have very different ideas about dogs and how they are treated. Mine is very much a spoilt pooch which has its own problems.

His pup is ok with the bitches he lives with, an older spayed Lurcher who he rescued and the rottweiler. I know he isn't fully trained yet though which is why the bitch hasn't been spayed as she is needed to work until the pup is fully trained at the job.

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TrionicLettuce · 02/01/2017 19:09

One bitches can be spayed at any time but it's preferable to do it about halfway between seasons so it's a simpler and less risky operation. A bitch who has just been mated will still effectively be in season so, providing the owners can keep her safe from entire males, the mismate jab then a spay at a more appropriate time in her cycle is generally the preferred option.

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talksensetome · 02/01/2017 19:11

The pup goes with them but he isn't reliable yet.

I haven't felt the need to ask so many questions until now. I assumed he knew what he was doing as he is the badge holding dog handler. I am just a clueless woman with a rather large pet.

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OneWithTheForce · 02/01/2017 19:15

Thanks trionic!

Shriek · 02/01/2017 19:22

You sound more clued up than the clueless man! By asking the questions and finding out.

Clearly your bf doesnt have a clue and his ddogs are paying the price

So the entire male is around the bitch in heat all the time and the lurcher too!

Bearing in mind your knowledge now do you not think he's in way over his head amd still getting ddogs!!

Priority should not be that bitch cant be spayed because of work. She clealey has to have a little time off. Hes making excuses.

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talksensetome · 02/01/2017 19:30

To be honest this whole episode is making me question my opinion of him. We already have different opinions on other dog related stuff but I put that down to me being soft on my dog which has been backed up by others.

The lurcher isn't a working dog and has been spayed so that's not an issue but he is going to have to come up with a good plan on the other two.

Maybe he already has one but it isn't coming across clearly to me. Apparently he thought the pup was too young to be interested and that by the time he was, he would be trained enabling the bitch to have time off and be spayed. Guess he needs a relationship think and fast.

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sarahnova69 · 02/01/2017 19:34

I am still seriously side eyeing the fact that he has not got the bitch spayed long ago. Even if this plan to stud the pup was legit, and frankly it sounds half baked at best, not spaying the Rotty was totally irresponsible.

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