Vaccination question

[foolserrand]

Ratdog (high energy mongrel pup) is 2 days from being allowed on walks after his second set of jabs. How awful and / or risky would it be to take him on a walk today?

Normally, I'd just wait the 48 hours but today we are off to see family. There will be relatives who aren't keen on dogs there. The home owners have their own young, bouncy dog so has suggested we walk them together to let off steam.

I know a walk would be smart to get them used to each other, but Ratdog can't go off lead yet regardless as his recall is nonexistent.....

Sorry for the brain dump. I suppose I'm asking, wwyd?

I would have no qualms at all re. the vaccinations. However, do bear in mind that if he is a normal vaccination age pup, you need walks to be kept very short indeed for weeks/months yet (depending on breed size) - so no walking and racing about for an hour with other dogs!

Yes agree you need to be very careful about too much exercise.

I probably wouldn't risk it, but I do tend to be cautious.

Think I might risk it.

We won't have time for a proper walk, but am wondering how long I should keep him out for. This pup can easily play tug and fetch for 90 minutes then go careering around the garden!

But this dpup really shouldnt at this age and joint damage notwithstanding there's over-adrenalising them. Meeting and greeting is one thing but walks are dictated by dpup this age not for convenience of situation.

As regards vaccine id say it very much depends on area and likely infection risk. Young dpup with kennel cough reallynot good idea. Is it a place high in ddog traffic?

If you believe that theae vaccines will keep dpup safe from all these diseases why do it when they at their most vulnerable two days before.

Im not seeing the point in the vaccine otherwise?

Where we were today was low traffic dog wise. But we decided not to walk him in the end. Lucky really, didn't realise they were most vulnerable now?

There's no convenience, everything is dictated by pup himself. I'm home all day so there's no rush to tire him out, he just never seems to want to stop!

I hadn't even considered shaving off a few days around here. Lots of wildlife and lots of dogs.

I was meaning that in general dpups are most vulnerable.

I wonder why they recommend this 48 hour wait. Is it to allow their immature immune system to cope with the latest vaccine? I would imagine so. Its like taking them out when theyre poorly?

He does need to learn to stop. Very important part of having calm dog. What breed? (sorry if ive missed that)

Anu pup would play (tug and fetch for 90 mins and then run around the garden but doesnt mean they should)

He's a springer poodle cross, so lots of energy.

Sorry, he had the last jabs a while ago, but can officially start being walked tomorrow. I'm a bit ill and tired so painfully awful at explaining myself!

If I don't tire him, he gets very destructive and nips at the dcs. To tire him, we are mostly having some play, then a bit of training, then more play. I only know what he can do because I was curious.

I've only ever had rescues in the past, so this puppy thing is all new to me. Seems I can't actually do much with him at all! Why is it so bad to tire them out?

Here he is, my happy little whirlwind!

foolserrand, he looks gorgeous. We have a springer poodle cross too with a bit of labradoodle in there somewhere = very greedy and high energy. She is 6.5 months now still very excitable with new people but much calmer in the house. I found even her x2 short walks for 15 mins at the start helped enormously. She still gets tired out with a short game of hide and seek too.

It's not tiring him out that's an issue, it's putting all that strain and wear and tear on his joints that haven't finished forming and aren't yet supported by properly developed muscles.

As well as putting strain on joints there is the need for him to learn to calm and contril himself. He will always have those amazing spurts of energy but like DC we dont just let them keep going until their in tears and not having routine. He needs lots of spells of just being calm too and settling to a chew etc.

Most ddogs (especially with working strains like mad spaniels) will keep going all day if you facilitate it. Then the ddog is in control of your life instead of other way round and sounds like you need that right now. Is someone helping you with him?

With such a cross it's definitely a good idea to start training an "off switch" as early as possible. Kikopup's series Capturing Calmness is great for this, the first video is . It's worth looking through her other videos as well as there are loads of really useful puppy related ones.

Getting his brain working (in very short bursts) is far better than trying to wear him out physically. Age appropriate trick training, body awareness exercises, scent games and impulse control exercises are all great for this. You kind of have to accept there'll be some level of nipping and destruction with a puppy though, it's perfectly normal behaviour. This is a good little guide to dealing with nipping, in fact there are lots of good articles in the files section of that FB group so it's worth having a look through them all.

Help?! Ha!

Okay, yes, I recall reading that about the joints. Interesting about the off switch, thanks for those links!