Would any poodle cross owners be interested in a separate forum on here where we can (hopefully) talk without judgement?

[DoodlesInTheHouse]

Genuine question. I asked MNHQ about this (under different name, if you are looking at this MNHQ) and they said to ask on here to see if there was interest.

I understand fully the views of some that some poodle crosses are not a good idea for a variety of reasons (puppy farming, health checks, various other reasons etc etc), but we also have our own reasons on why they suited our family, why we chose not to rescue at that time (and very likely will rescue in years ahead) and we are very, very happy with our choices. We are intelligent adults and made an informed choice. I come from a very dog-oriented family and knew what we were doing.

It seems impossible to ask a question about poodle crosses on here without being jumped on. It wouldn't be the done thing if we were talking about breast v formula, or SAHM v working mums, but it seems to be acceptable to ridicule the choices that some of us have made.

Would anyone be interested?

Funnily enough I think you have all proved her point. I have a beautiful mongrel who is part poodle but everytime I bring him up I get told off for buying him and told I wanted a cavaspripoo! I know he's a mongrel. I wanted a mongrel. And I definitely didn't pay big money for him.

playingrownup , could you link to threads about behaviour / nutrition / training where you have been 'told off' for buying your poodle mix as like others I don't agree that that happens often if ever on this forum .

Oh c'mon Floral. I'm probably one of the least observant people ever posters on here, but even I've noticed it!

I love my cockapoo. No suits given.

I absolutely don't judge you but it is too niche.

I think if the owners called them poodle cross And not some stupid mixed name and tell people with pedigree dogs at the park how much they paid for their overpriced mongrels (sorry cockapoo, shitzpoo or bichipoo) , Doggy people would be more receptive ...

The pretentiousness is the only thing that gets my back up and I'm annoyed for the poor people who think that they have a dog worth over 1k ... and don't get me started on tea cup sizes dogs.

I would!

I have a lovely mini labradoodle who I never mention on here because of the fear I have of being jumped on!

I think for a lot of us it's not the dogs we have issue with - it's the pretentiousness of the made up names and the horrendously high prices.
I know of people who have paid more than twice as much for their cross breeds than I did for my pure breed, who is a working dog with some of the country's best known bloodlines in her (she's a non-registered "pedigree". The blood lines are know by she isn't registered as the mother was jointly owned by a couple who then split up. She refused to sign the registration papers for the pups)

The thing I find strange is that so many people don't have an issue that my dog is this crossed with that until I mention poodle. It seems to be poodle they have an issue with.

It is not poodle that people may have an issue with as the pp said it is the pretentiousness that owners of a 'poo' or 'oodle' cross have about their choice. I await my lurcher being renamed a 'grollie' (greyhound cross with a collie)
Any dog owner who cares about their dog and loves them is to be applauded but I just don't get the obsession with having a 'crossbreed' which has a cutesy twee name that happens to end with 'poo' or 'oodle'.

My advice OP is to find a nice FB group. I'm in a cavachon group which is lovely and supportive, im sure there would be a cockerpoo, group, etc.

Hello! I have a poodle cross I'm not pretentious in the slightest, promise . I never refer to her as a 'breed', not because that might offend other people, but because I did my research and know she's a mutt/cross

I also couldn't care less if people don't like the shortened name for her. Saying 'cavapoo' in answer to 'what breed is she?' is a lot quicker than saying ' actually she's not a breed, she's a cross, and she's a cavalier king Charles spaniel crossed with a poodle'.

She's not from a puppy farm, she's from a family home, she wasn't bred for money making. So I'm very happy with my scruples and don't feel the least bit attacked when I read the strong views on here about poodle crosses. I'm totally against puppy farming and the mass breeding of cute designer dogs. But I didn't contribute to that, so I'm happy.

I've not met anyone in real life who has been negative towards my dog because she happens to be half poodle. Not sure I'd give a stuff if I did TBH. She is beautifully behaved, not a nuisance in public - I've done a great job in training her. That's what's important.

Yes, OP, try Facebook groups. Lots of support there.

This snottiness/outrage/bitchiness about dogs like labradoodles and cockerpoos is unpleasant. I do know about puppy farms and dodgy breeders, but the OP wasn't asking about this.

Get a fucking grip people

This snottiness/outrage/bitchiness about dogs like labradoodles and cockerpoos is unpleasant

You mean concern for animal welfare?

This might be off topic, but I have heard about how popular Great Danoodles were.

Madness.

Go for it everyone should be able to talk about their much loved pet. From the owner of a rescued Patterdale Terrier

I really don't understand why people has to immediately assume that there is something very bad about this particular kind of dog. They are just like any other mixed dog. So I don't think they deserve their own topic.

In the space of my life I have had a poodle, 2 pedigree poodles, 2 pedigree Yorkies and a Yorkapoo I picked up from the RSPCA.

I decided to get a dog from the RSPCA because I got feed up with so many back yard "breeders" churning out "pedigree" puppies that didn't even resemble the breed standard (even when KC registered) and demanding a fortune for them. For my previous dogs I remember seeing 2-3 breeders, and most of them looked pretty in the known of how to breed a dog properly.

This last time I saw 8 "breeders" and they were all a bunch of nutters. It is an unregulated business, you can get legitimate damaged goods.

So I really don't understand people who go all sanctimonious at people having a "designer" crossbreed when the word of the pedigree dog is nowadays as affected by the same level of greed and irresponsibility.

we are all entitled to our opinion - I still think hankering after a dog because it has a twee name ending in 'poo' or 'oodle' is a bit pretentious. It is a cross-breed not a new designer breed

"So I really don't understand people who go all sanctimonious at people having a "designer" crossbreed when the word of the pedigree dog is nowadays as affected by the same level of greed and irresponsibility."

Because there are a few pedigree breeders who do everything right and breed for the right reasons...yes those are hard to find, adding in that they need to be breeding crosses means they're non-existent.

There is literally no reason to be breeding poodle crosses over actual poodles other than money, they're not more suited to anything.

So you've basically eliminated the few good breeders that do exist from your search.

I'm sure your dog is lovely, it's a dog, they tend to be but if it had been bred by someone responsible it wouldn't have ended up at the RSPCA to be rehomed.

I agree with that, there is no need to breed crosses for money, but from what I can see, unless you are very knowledgeable about the breed and the intricacies of responsible breeding, you are at the same risk of getting an unscrupulous pedigree breeder who is there all for the money (or the misguided joy of having baby puppies at home) without any regard for the health of the dogs.

Well, the only irresponsible thing I can attribute to my dog's last owner, is not microchipping her. She came with wonderful manners and had been crate trained. Very affectionate confident little dog. Looking at her I cannot imagine her being neglected, She was found as a stray in a touristic area.

Having said that... There were 4 wonderfully beautiful Akitas (and about 20 staffies) in the RSPCA on the day I had a look. Not a sight of a labradoodle!

"you are at the same risk of getting an unscrupulous pedigree breeder"

I don't agree, I think the risks are higher with crosses because you've stacked the odds even higher against yourself by ruling out the decent breeders that do exist.

Finding a decent breeder is hugely difficult, but at least with pedigrees they do actually exist occasionally.

There is a massive issue with breeding though, just in general, there are far too many dodgy breeders (of pedigrees and crosses) and it is dogs that suffer for it.

Frankly, apart of the guy who created the first purpose made labradoodle (who I am aware highly regrets it), those who breed designer crosses don't even deserve to be called breeders.

But I can say the same of most "pedigree" breeders I have come accross while searching for my last dog.

Things have changed enormously over the years. I blame the Internet for it, when you can have a dog posted to you (very common in the States), advertise your beloved unchecked pet as a stud and choose between thousands of dogs online as if you were ordering onions from Tesco, what can we expect?

According to some people, rescue centres are stuffed full of labradoodles who've been abandoned because their feckless, half-wit owners decided their dog didn't match their sofa.