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New Puppy Mommies in here *blerk*

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Awks · 13/08/2013 16:34

Got our new puppy on Saturday. I was in tears this morning and I'm a pretty experienced dog owner. Its just so hard moaning cow that I am He is a 9 week old cocker and is a beautiful, cuddly boy but is a massive shitting machine. And not in the garden either.

So any new puppy owners want to weep in here then please do.

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MissMummy1 · 19/08/2013 08:29

Aulay dog and DD both slept through!!

DD has only ever slept through once so this is amazing. She has come on so much over the weekend with the pup, making real efforts to chat and walk now... and sleeping!!

1 tiny accident on puppy mat yesterday. My fault for not getting to the door quickly enough. We are also working on sit by getting him to sit everytime he goes somewhere or does something. We are getting there.

As for puppy parties, there is a dog training/puppy socialising class in the village that we took bdog to 6 years ago so will be taking Aulay dog there.

I cant wait to get onto the laptop and see new puppy photos later Grin

TooManyButtons · 19/08/2013 08:31

Sally Toby is gorgeous! nd so big compared to Staney Grin

Birdmomma It sounds like you're doing really well with Autumn, now Stanley's settled in we're going to start training in earnest. He has learnt his name, I'm not sure about house training yet, I'm not sure how long it'll take before he signals he wants to go outside, rather than it being pure good luck that he's already outside when he needs to pee.

So far I can't fault him at night times, he went to bed at 11.30 last night, not a sound, then woke at 7.30 this morning. Hes not had an accident during the night yet.

Awks have fun at the puppy party, I can't wait until Stanley's big enough! You're not in South Yorkshire are you?

TooManyButtons · 19/08/2013 08:34

Missmummy that sounds really positive about your dd and Aulay. Hopefully it's the start of a long happy relationship between them.

SallyBear · 19/08/2013 09:32

He's woofing his sleep!!!! Omg. How adorable?! #needalife #Tobypuppybore

Awks · 19/08/2013 11:02

Some good puppies here, aren't they all clever? How do you stop them humping your leg then as that's Jarvis's speciality and the kids are horrified Grin

TMB no north yorks here for me

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MotherOfGirls · 19/08/2013 11:05

STAIRS QUESTION - We didn't allow our first dog upstairs until he was around 6 months as I heard climbing stairs could be bad for puppies physically. Ollie is 3 months and pretty much house trained so it would be nice to allow him up but I don't want to do any damage. We could easily carry him but we don't have a stair gate so I think once we carry him upstairs once, he will come and go as he pleases. Any thoughts?

moosemama · 19/08/2013 11:08

Sadly not Awks. We used to live in Lancashire, which was fantastic for keeping dogs, but now we're down near Warwickshire. Have fun at your puppy party.

Sally, you're a great big softie like me - hope your dh isn't still on the sofa in a week's time like we are. Blush He looks so cute pooped out on the floor in your photo.

I've put a couple of new pics on my profile. It seems Pip has discovered a new toy - needless to say Lurcherboy isn't so keen! Grin

Birdmomma, sounds like she adapts well when confronted, even if she does react at first, it's great that she can settle down and make friends soon afterwards and the more she gets of positive interaction after being scared, the better she'll cope with new situations in later life. Puppy classes will really help with that too.

Jax, I feel your pain. Pip tends to fall asleep about 10.30, but then wakes at 2.00 am, so we've been trying to keep him awake at least an hour longer. Last night, after his busy day, he fell asleep at 10.00, before he'd had a last wee, so we woke him up at 11.00 and took him out for a wee - and that was that. He was then awake, but whingey and grizzley like an overtired toddler until 2.00 am. Hmm Then he woke at 4.15 for a wee and did the biggest wee I have ever seen such a small dog produce and was again properly awake and being a full on landshark. Put him back in his crate about 4.30 ish without engaging him and he did go straight back to sleep, then dh got up at 6.00 and woke him up again. Fortunately he said I could go up to bed and he'd have Pip until he had to leave for work at 8.00 am. Apparently Pip went out, had his first feed at 6.30 and then slept until I got up at 8.00 am. Hmm

Unfortunately it takes me ages to fall asleep, so I've probably only had two lots of just under 2 hour slots of consecutive sleep.

Having lots of issues with ds1 today as well, not good on such a small amount of sleep.

MissMummy, sounds like you had a perfect night. Way to go Aulay and dd.

Pip has finally gained some weight. Just over the weekend his bones have started to recede and he's looking a whole lot better. Vets tonight, so hopefully we can start weaning him onto a complete food and he will get his second vax, meaning he can start puppy classes on time. Smile

Major fail on my part with housetraining this morning. Making breakfast and couldn't see Pip, so called him. We've been working on recall and 'come' = huge piece of chicken, so in charges Pip from the garden, trailing wee all through the back porch and kitchen floor on his way. He'd gone outside for a wee, which is why I couldn't see him. Doh! On a positive note, at least it seems his recall training is working. Grin

moosemama · 19/08/2013 11:13

Awks, just distraction and reward for doing something more appropriate. I've never had a male dog that humped and am praying this one doesn't either.

MotheofGirls, it very much depends on the breed. Larger breeds with bigger bones can suffer a joint damage from running up and down stairs so it's contraindicated until the period of rapid growth is over. I don't thinks it's as bad for smaller breeds, but still best to be cautious. With a border collie I think it would be sensible to avoid him running up and down stairs for a while yet.

MotherOfGirls · 19/08/2013 13:35

Thanks, moosemama, that's what I thought - just wanted to check I wasn't being overcautious.

SallyBear · 19/08/2013 16:16

I'm sat here watching Toby sleep thinking that I must do something constructive!

moosemama · 19/08/2013 17:25

Well, I've just had a call from the vets and Pip has Campylobacter. Sad

It's zoonotic, which means any of us could catch it and it's nasty in humans. It's also extremely difficult to treat, as some strains are antibiotic resistant.

So, he is seeing vet tomorrow night for a check-up and to start his antiobiotic treatment (probably prolonged) and no second vax until he tests clear - so he won't be starting puppy classes on week 1, if at all.

It's going to be tricky to handle with the dcs, as ds1 has OCD tendencies and will freak out if we tell him the truth. So, we are just having to be very vigilant and reinforce the whole, 'wash your hands when you've handled the dog' thing - although in his case he washes his hands constantly anyway.

Good job I've been mega fastidious about hygiene since we came home, as I wasn't sure what was up with him.

Just to add to my joy, the vet is awaiting E Coli results and we will know those tomorrow.

Apparently his normal poos and weight gain don't mean much, as it tends to go in cycles when the bacteria beats the gut balance and the diarrhoea starts up again, before settling again with treatment and so on ...

He will have caught it at his foster home, as he was in with 2 other small litters of other breeds and I was told their favourite game was playing with each other's poo. Eurgh!

Feeling thoroughly fed up and a bit tearful about it all at the moment. Sad

SallyBear · 19/08/2013 17:31

Ahhh moose! That's so awful! What can you do holistically to treat the gut? Live yogurt? I think where the dc are concerned just keep on being vigilant with hand washing. I'm paranoid about it anyway because if DDs surgery so just keep doing what you're doing. My friend rescued a pup in NI and within a day of being home was sick. I told her that it sounded like parvo, the vet said no then two days later said yes it was and there wasn't anything they could do but put her on a drip. My friend went online and found out the swine flu vaccine for humans could also treat parvo. She made them give it to the pup and the pup pulled through. Now the vets in question now treat parvo outbreaks with the swine flu meds. All I am saying is that there might be something else to treat him with that would work with whatever the vets have pxd. X

moosemama · 19/08/2013 18:08

Basically support intestinal health Sally, so yes priobiotic stuff, but we have a veterinary probiotic paste that will do it better than yoghurt and fortunately I bought some online at close to a third of the price the vet charges for it.

I've googled and read lots of stuff already, so know which anti-b's are the best etc, but to be honest my vet is awesome and I trust her to deal with it properly. Unfortunately, Google brings up all the scariest stories as well. Sad

My Wheaten and Collie x had the same thing many years ago and it took weeks to find out what was wrong, by which time they were both constantly exploding bloody diarrhoea and had to be confined to crates to contain the mess. It was awful, but they both responded to the first course of antibiotics, so fingers crossed Pip will be the same. He's looking so healthy now, his coat is all shiny, he's gained weight and muscle mass and is currently pooing normally, so you never know.

That's amazing re the swine-flu vax for parvo - good on your friend for sorting her vets out and getting them to give her pup the injection.

Am just going to go onto the sighthound forum I'm on and ask for advice there as they are such experienced and knowledgeable people, with a wealth of experience with rescue lurchers that I'm sure someone will know what to do.

I have despatched dh to Tescos to buy up there stock of everything anti-bacterial and disinfectant, as well as a new mop and bucket, so we have a good store of everything and won't run out.

TooManyButtons · 19/08/2013 20:04

Oh no, I came on to boast about Stanley the cleverest spaniel in the entire world but then I read about poor Pip Sad. Do you know how long he'll need antibiotics for, moose?

moosemama · 19/08/2013 20:24

Oh no TMB, tell us all about your clever boy.

Daft thing is, Pip doesn't feel ill at all. He's still a bundle of mayhem and mischief, just like all the other pups.

I don't know how long he'll need anti-b's for at this point. I think a couple of weeks, then another sample, then another two weeks etc until he tests clear.

basildonbond · 19/08/2013 20:35

poor Pip - I hope the antibiotics get to work quickly

moosemama · 19/08/2013 21:37

Thanks bb.

Come on folks, cheer me up with your healthy, happy puppy tales - or should that be tails?

Pip is currently driving me batty, since discovering he can yodel and yap and 'talk' at both me and poor old Lurcherboy, just for fun whenever he's bored. Hmm

He was extremely unimpressed that Lurcherboy was off-lead and chasing balls in the park this afternoon, while I wouldn't put him down and he let the whole park know exactly how he felt - noisy little monkey! Shock

SallyBear · 19/08/2013 21:49

Well Toby has discovered that he is indeed a Labrador. What a little greedy guts! We are supposed to be feeding him 25g x4 a day. He woofs that down and then is still looking! So we've upped his feeds. He's been napping in the crate while DH has been working in the office (where crate is), and also voluntarily going in there when the room is empty to have a little sleep! Currently curled up like a fat squishy velvet ball in the other bed in the lounge (yes we have two!), snoozing little puppy dreams. Today he woofed in his sleep, and drank in his sleep! He's shattered from chasing/following DS3 all day. They're best buddies Grin

Awks · 19/08/2013 22:00

Aww poor, poor Pip even though he doesn't appear to know he has it. Hope the antib's work and thank god you got it diagnosed quickly. He's lucky to have you.

Jarvis went to his first puppy party and spent 55 mins hiding behind my legs and then the last 5 mins playing with a friend called Maisie. It was just too cute Grin

Stanley cant be the cleverest cocker as jarvis can sit when I tell him sometimes

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TooManyButtons · 19/08/2013 22:03

Well this morning I decided to start training Stanley to sit...within minutes as soon as I held a treat up he immediately sat beautifully. We've been practising throughout the day and he's been faultless. He's been following us round all day and every time he sees us with something he might like, or we hold one of his toys, he sits right in front of us and looks up expectantly. I'm utterly amazed at how quickly he's picked it up.

And! He woke from a nap earlier on, trotted off to the back door and stood staring at it; as soon as I opened the door he ran straight out for a wee.

That's after sleeping from 11 last night until 7:30 this morning, with no accidents at all.

I love my puppy Grin

moosemama · 19/08/2013 22:13

Clever boy Stanley! Grin

I'm not Envy at all - oh no, not me!

Awks · 19/08/2013 22:57

We hadn't had an accident in the house for 4 days and just now he peed on the sitting room rug right in front of me. RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. Grrrr

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RoastedCouchPotatoes · 19/08/2013 23:18

Hi, can I join? Two three week female pups, were found in a friwnd's garden at two weeks. Currently nameless. They can wiggle backwards, sometimes play fight and growl a bit, rarely, at each other. They try to stand up and walk a bit, but not successfully, and make a weird throaty noise which is, I think, an attempt at barking!y

TooManyButtons · 19/08/2013 23:42

RoastedCouchPotatoes 3 weeks old? Wow, are you having to feed them milk? I imagine they need feeding throughout the night too. Are you going to keep them both?

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