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Help choosing a breed - advice appreciated

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GetYourMoneyBackAtTheDoor · 19/05/2013 10:20

We have always had dogs and I posted a while a go about Ridgebacks. We saw lots and visited breeders and experts, and are still keen. However, I am wary about making a busy life (2 young DCs and a part time job + study) even more difficult than it needs to be by getting such a challenging breed. We are about to move to a rural home with access directly onto countryside (there is literally a gate from our back garden into the fields behind!)

If I tell you what we want, and what we've considered, I'd love to hear some opinions from those with experience of these breeds.

Requirements:
Short haired (will be out and about lots in rural countryside. Life is far too busy to be hosing/washing/drying/brushing everyday!) Shedding less of an issue.
Large at least 25kgs, pref. 30kgs+
non-aggressive Obviously more down to environmental factors but must not have a genetic predisposition towards aggression/extreme suspicion to strangers/other dogs/animals
tolerant with children both family members and visiting
Good off lead see what I've written for non-aggressive
not too demanding at home Happy to chill out at home without needing to be gazing into my eyes/pawing my hand/nudging my hot cup of tea in my hand/sitting on my head
be nice to my cat

Quite a list! Some of it is of course negotiable (except I definitely don't want a hairy dog). Under consideration:

Ridgeback - Have done so much research, I love them but I am very nervous about how easy they'd be to manage on walks/if the gate was left open (vision of sheep being taken down)
Labrador - DH desperately wants one, I have worked with them for years and while I appreciate their great qualities, they don't excite me in any way.
Border collie - I'd have another (short haired!), DH not keen
Great Swiss Mountain dog Confused Know nothing about them but considering starting to find out more, having read up a bit. At the moment I like the look of them and the sound of them. Are they not very good with dogs?
Dalmatian Are they less nutty with adequate exercise than the one's I get mugged by see out and about?

Any other suggestions?

We are about the most cautious people you could imagine, so won't be rushing into anything but are enjoying pondering new breeds. Exercise and company isn't an issue (dog can come to work with me), child friendliness is the biggest factor. We've always had gundogs/Bcs and are thinking perhaps something a bit different. I can see us ending up with what we've always had though! The dog will be kept busy with classes, walks and doing a job of some sort (agilty/obedience both of which I've done lost of, or rather fancy the cart pulling for the swissy!)

Sadly DH will not consider a sight hound, though DS1 and I have been campaigning for ages for a Grey. We've never had a puppy before, always rescue, but definitely want to buy a puppy this time.

Sorry, long!

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mrslaughan · 19/05/2013 21:30

We have a swissy - amazing dogs.
I grew up with Labradors, I lot of the same temperament, but not as bouncy, not as food obsessed.
Very loyal, loves human contact - always around the family.
But they are large...... Having said that our boy has only knocked/bumped my 3 yr old over three times, which is amazing for a dig who is approx 60kg and only 10 months old.

Also not a licky dog - never licks the kids faces, which considering his size would be very easy to do.

Everyone who meets him, loves him!

You just need to be very aware of breeders here, you want to make sure the male and female are fully health screened and hip and elbow tested. The fact that the are kennel club registered does not mean a thing. You also want to know the puppies have been raised in a family environment.

Pm me if you want to know more - but I an a complete convert....

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Perihelion · 19/05/2013 21:31

With a 2yo do you really want excitement? Working Labs all the way for me although not technically large. Wouldn't touch Viszlas. Of the ones I know all are rather needy and noisey.

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mrslaughan · 19/05/2013 21:40

Our boy regularly plays with a ridgeback..... Ridgeback is a couple of months older and abit taller, but would weigh a lot less.

All the swisseys I have meet are fab with other dogs, infact ours lives for meeting other dogs Grin
He is a big teddy bear, another dog growls at him he either runs behind me or away from it,. Completely non- aggressive .... Not sure where you got that they are not great with other dogs?
I don't know the specifics but I have heard of one breeder here having temperament issues (a couple of dogs returned)..... I believe this is due to socialization.... Ie puppies are being raised in the stables/barn, not a huge amount of human contact, or contact with other dogs. I honestly don't know the full story, which is why I would say research the breeder/ breeders and meet dogs that that breeder has breed and placed with other families. Talk to those families about there experience and the support they have received.

We meet a lot of swissies in Switzerland, every person said what an amazing family dog they are.

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mrslaughan · 19/05/2013 21:44

Italian sipones aren't really short haired......

But if you will consider shaggy - there is also the Bouvier..... It was in our short list

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Scuttlebutter · 19/05/2013 21:52

I'd strongly suggest a lurcher or long dog. Can be quite large, depending on what cross they are. Lots of MNetters have them with young DC. The grey side gives a nice temperament, they are very laid back and chilled but the cross will give a bit of stamina and brains Grin. They can be large, but usually very healthy (no HD) - I meet lots in their mid teens.

I transported a gorgeous dog yesterday - a young Saluki/collie cross - incredibly handsome, friendly, playful but also v happy to come to the pub and chill out and be admired. He's about 25" to shoulder, with a fairly short coat but some rather swishy feathering. Lots of families in the pub and he soaked up masses of small toddlers and DC who came over to say hello. Pups come up with regularity in rescue - keep an eye on Evesham Greyhound and Lurcher Rescue for instance (they will rehome nationally). And a young dog who's been fostered in a family home can often be more of a known quantity than a puppy.

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peskyginge · 19/05/2013 21:57

Boxer dog!! Great with kids, bit daft but cuddly!

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GetYourMoneyBackAtTheDoor · 20/05/2013 06:40

Oh I'd love a sight hound type, DH wouldn't! We both used to work in rescue and seem to have been left with different feelings about them Smile

mrslaughan I knew there had to be someone! Yours sounds lovely. I read in a Gwen Bailey book plus on the 'net that they need lots of socialising with dogs or they can be difficult. Glad that isn't your experience.

Friends have a St. Bernard. Are Swissys smaller (that would be too big, tough I think the slobber makes it feel too big, iyswim!)

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boardingschoolbaby · 20/05/2013 10:11

What about a Peruvian mountain dog? Our next door neighbour has one (now 18 months old) and she is gorgeous;fabulous with his 3 kids, great in our rural setting and very chilled out with our 2 westies.i had never even heard of them before but she has really sold me on the breed.

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GetYourMoneyBackAtTheDoor · 20/05/2013 13:17

Wot's one of them?

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GetYourMoneyBackAtTheDoor · 20/05/2013 13:19

I've googled twice and can't find them!

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GetYourMoneyBackAtTheDoor · 20/05/2013 16:01

Re. Dalmations: I like them but not enough I don't think. And I can jst imagine all that white hair. I had a white (and black) short haired dog before, it was a nightmare!)

Rotties: I love them, wanted one for years but nowadays I think I am put off by other people's reactions, IYSWIM. I like them but lots of people go out of their way to avoid them and I'd hate other parents to worry about their children at our house or by the school gates. Shame though.

Boxers: Again, not my cup of tea Smile

I think we'll go with a Ridgeback, this has made me see its what I want most. The bitch we like hasn't been mated yet, stud dog just identified and bitch is awaiting season so no guarantees anyway. Breeder is lovely and will be fine if we change our mind but I can't let go of it. This thread has helped clarify that so thank you all.

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boardingschoolbaby · 20/05/2013 16:18

Peruvian mountain dog is also known as a Bernese mountain dog apparently. Sorry- I didn't check back in earlier (I am killing time in the induction ward waiting for it all to kick off hopefully). Our neighbours one is absolutely beautiful- similar colours to a collie- black white and tan.

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