Very cute photo of lovely rescue puppy

[Rhinestone]

Fucking fed up with MNHQ deleting threads. They just deleted my thread 'Er...whatever happened to LadyEvenstar's thread?'

Re DBF and her possible ban, her FB page is Vallhala MN.

oh for heavens sake!

report the thread, dont report the thread, the only one bitching is you rhubarb

"If anyone wants it, I have a copy of almost all of the TLES thread which I c&p to email before it got pulled. Dunno if it's too long for on here but if so will email it to anyone who wants it. Apparently I'm in doo doo for calling her a liar, foolish and a disgrace. Nowt libellous there and not as bad as one comment NOT by me who said they thought her mental or somesuch.

Oh and BTW - FWIW I think she's mentally unstable too!"

"Remember please that my FB is PUBLIC - don't say anything which you wouldn't want MNHQ or others to read."

"I am grateful to those who pointed out to Justine that the lady who wanted to get rid of her dog and whose DH had passed away only stealth like (albeit unintentionally) mentioned that well after I had spoken out... " (I dunno what that is about but is she actually blithely discussing someone's dh dying? In such dismissive terms?)

"PLEASE! Can someone tell MNHQ that TLES is STILL telling lies! "

I understand her wanting to defend herself, but slagging off someone else in the process might not be the best way to go about it?
Anyway, your war and not mine. As everything I have just posted is public on facebook and the OP even told people how to search for Vallhala on FB, I didn't think it was a big deal to post it here. If it all goes tits up feel free to report and have it deleted. I will not report this thread or direct others to it. I just thought I would give you a heads up.

Oops, x-posted. Don't mind if you report it then BeerTricks.

Well I dunno what's gone on, DBF is not familiar to me but valhalla is.

I would advise her to change her facebook posts though. That's all.

Okay, I don't want to stir shit any further, and I do think a ban was a bit OTT, but I do want to put my perspective.

I came to the doghouse only last week , because our family was seriously considering getting a dog. We have been thinking about this for over ten years, but wanted to wait until the time was right, until we felt ready. Finally, we are in a place where we think we could give a home to a rescue. So, I took a look around the doghouse, and it made me decide that maybe I wasn't right to get a dog. Seeing people come on with good intentions to ask genuine questions, and being reprimanded for not doing things a different way- Well, it makes me think that you can only truly do it right if you have years of experience and have read a thousand books on the subject.
I've started so many threads about should we get a dog, what breed, etc, but have deleted before posting because I think it's probable that I'll get told off- Scolded, in fact- For something or other.

I know that DBF does BRILLIANT work. I have great admiration for her in that respect. But for those of you denying that the doghouse can be hostile, I wanted you to know how I felt about it. I guess I think it's a shame if people who would be great dog owners are actually put off rescuing/getting a dog by visiting the doghouse.

BelleEnd - please do post. I am involved in rescue and will ALWAYS mention it as an option. BUT - I also support (very) responsible breeding because I would be hypocritical not to. I love certain breeds and wouldn't want to see them disappear. DBF would probably disagree with me on this but I still love her!

Personally I will always have rescue dogs.

Although, there are an awful lot of pedigrees in rescue too.

So please please post, I promise not to bite.

everyone has finally gone mad

You wouldn't BelleEnd and everyone has to start somewhere. You'd have been advised to go for an easy going, partially trained older dog. You'd have been given details of your local rescues.

If you went against all the advise and went and got a puppy anyway, you'd have been given toilet training advise. Just as TLES was a few weeks ago. No-one held her mistake against her until she decided to resolve the mistake by another, bigger mistake which could have left the dog in danger.

The DH is not a scary place and quite frankly if you're 'scared' of words on a screen then maybe you need to think about stepping away from the PC for a while and getting on with RL. We're all meant to be grown ups here, no?

Belle - maybe everyone is on good behaviour today, but there's a thread running on advice about getting a dog, and there's no scolding (of the OP,anyway) at all, and discussion of rescues and breeders.

Yes please do come and post in the doghouse BelleEnd - I'm sorry you got the impression you wouldn't be welcome, and I really doubt anyone would 'scold' you based on what you've said, at least I hope not!

Having said that, I do think it's a good thing if people do stop and think a bit before rushing into getting a dog, if more people did that it would prevent a lot of problems! However I agree it would be a shame if a good potential owner was entirely put off the idea (though I wouldn't have imagined this happening just because of some posts on MN).

When I first joined DH I was only ever welcomed. Things that I posted were answered kindly - and when I DID post a question that had been asked a zillion times I was still answered and linked to previous threads.

I have views that totally oppose some on the DH and views that agree with others. Doesnt make mine or theirs less valid points. If we all said, "Oh yes, get ... breed of dog from ... place" it would be a dull place to be and threads would be very short indeed.

belle post away and you will get all sorts of advice.

Was pondering how 'horrid' doghouse is... and the only times that I have been sworn at or 'scolded' was in other areas of MN. Not in the dog house.

Thank you Rhinestone. I shall give it more thought.

Dooin- I was on the original thread and agreed that the OP was very foolish. But I didn't think that questioning whether she had children etc was relevant, or calling her a thief. She was rightly reprimanded for her actions regarding the poor dog- If it were left at that, I wouldn't have thought twice about it.
I don't think I've ever said that I'm scared of words on a screen, by the way. I post in AIBU quite a lot. I was just saying that I'd be put off posting for advice about getting a dog because ofsome posters' aggression.

Belle, I posted after we got Jasper (a puppy, probably puppy farmed) and was given lots of help, support and reassurance. I didn't get one flaming, and I felt I deserved one. So don't be afraid to post :)

DBF was not banned for the TLES thread alone but for all the other threads and she had been asked to tone it down and refused. So lets get over this - if DBF wanted to carry on posting she could have if she just reworded her threads.

Equally she can re register through another browser (She knows this well enough) - I just see this as wasting time from dog issues. DBF can sort this if she wants to or she can carry on attention seeking.

DBF didn't do any of that BelleEnd. Those posts were made by other posters. DBF left the thread once that started happening apart from one post to defend the op by stating she was being truthful about owning such a dog, when other posters were accusing her of making the whole thing up.

Well you all seem very welcoming on this thread, anyway. Perhaps I've been reading the wrong ones :o In fact, I must have, because I got the impression that buying a pedigree was absolutely not the done thing. I'm glad that those of you who have bought puppies have not been flamed.

Belle - nowt wrong with buying a pedigree, so long as it an informed choice and a good breeder. There's a thread running now (with no criticisms at all) about finding a good lab breeder.

But Dooin, I think Justine said that that thread was just the straw that broke the camel's back and not, in itself, the reason for her being banned.
But, as I say, perhaps I don't have enough experience of the board to be posting on this thread. I just thought it may be useful or interesting for others to know what my first impressions have been. I'm glad I have posted, though, as I see that there are a lot out there willing to give advice.

I have a puppy - well had a puppy, we got her about this time last year so she is all growed up now (as mush as she is going to grow anyway, the little pipsqueak can barely be classed as a dog imo).

I was not flamed, despite taking her in on a whim after a message on FB without so much as second thought. DBF implored me to make a firm decsion as to whether she was staying with us quickly before the 'x-mas rush' started in the rescues, which I think is a fair enough point.

Is that one of the dogs on your profile Dooin? The last photo? Your dogs are so blinking cute. I was thinking of a small one too.
Stupid question, and completely off topic- When you say the Christmas rush in the rescues, do you mean that people are getting them as gifts and taking them straight to the rescue centres, or that people are rescuing dogs from shelters at Christmastime?