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My dog just bit my son. Twice :o(

170 replies

AboardtheAxiom · 11/03/2011 07:15

DS is now terrified and is begging me to take the dog back to the pound.

He hasn't broken the skin (ds had thick pjs on) but he has left a bruised lump on DS's leg. Sad

I can't believe it. DS was just stood watching TV 1st time, 2nd time was sat at the table!

I half to go out at half 8 and need to make a plan.

Dog is barking in kitchen and DS is crying (again) in living room. Sad

OP posts:
WynkenBlynkenandNod · 11/03/2011 21:16

Notamopsa, my neighbour would have as I said earlier.Dog could have spent his life herding dog savvy horses who grew up being herded by their old collie Chip who adopted them, running around in acres of fields, with no access to children as theirs are both around 50 so they won't be having grandchildren. Unfortunately she is now too old to take on a dog so fusses over mine instead (who is extremely happy to be fussed over). But there will be others like her.

NotaMopsa · 11/03/2011 21:18

that's a LOT of wrong homes though....

Ripeberry · 11/03/2011 21:18

Whoever gave you the dog is totally out of order. First of all most GOOD dog homes don't let famillies of children under 10yrs old have rescue dogs and secondly, they will ALWAYS take the dog back.

Take it to the vet, get it checked out and ask the vet what he/she would do? Sad

Vallhala · 11/03/2011 21:22

whine, you've got me sussed. I'm bloody glad I don't work with people too.

You also have no idea of the content of the pms between the OP and I, today or in the past, or of our phone conversation.

violetmoon · 11/03/2011 21:23

Sorry but even a nip, this dog has harmed your child without provocation! If this was another person who had made a bruise on your child, Im sure the standard answer wouldnt be: " well its only a bruise, if they had wanted to REALLY hurt your ds they would have"?! You would not keep a person who may unpredictably harm your child near them, why would you keep a dog that you have no idea if it might do it again? (I understand that you are not keeping the dog btw!) Disagree with getting the dog pts, I just dont think it should be around children, who have no say in the matter. (especially if your son is autistic Sad. Really hope you can get this sorted op with valhallas help and others. Smile

Vallhala · 11/03/2011 21:26

Ripeberry, I know several bloody good rescues which consider applications from those with children on a case by case basis. And the vat here has already stated what she thinks - see Jooly's posts.

I can add my name to the list of those people who have taken on previously problem dogs. One of those is asleep, curled up on the sofa beside DD1 as I type.

LoopyLoopsChupaChups · 11/03/2011 21:26

If this was another person who had made a bruise on your child, I'm sure the standard answer wouldn't be: "your child is bruised, the perpetrator must die", eh violetmoon? :( that people (not you btw.) jump to that conclusion without knowing the facts.

Vallhala · 11/03/2011 21:27

Sorry.... Jooly is a VET, not a vat! Blush

midori1999 · 11/03/2011 21:28

Maybe people were more concerned with the dog because the dog was the one in immediate danger here (of being PTS) since the OP had made sure the dog was then kept seperately from her child so the child could not be harmed. Val has offered a solution which means the dog will be out of the OP's home ASAP. (and I actually wonder if she's not on here because she is doing what she often spends her time doing and phoning round trying to find a suitable place for this dog)

As for people who would take this dog. If I were in a position to take another dog in (and I can't because my current rescue dog has issues with other dogs he doesn't know) then I would be more than happy to rehome a dog like this. I have three DC, the youngest of whom has Downs. In fact, when I am able to take in another rescue dog, I will be specifically looking for one similar to this that is less easy to home than some. Less easy doesn't mean there are no homes out there though.

Joolyjoolyjoo · 11/03/2011 21:29

Ah- I knew you would know someone in the know, Val!

Look, none of us dog-sympathisers on here are belittling the effect of the incident on the OP's son. And I have said I hope her DS is ok.

BUT! I know nothing about how to deal with a small boy upset about a bite from a dog- his mum is the best person to know that. OP has not asked for advice on how best to deal with her son. She put this in "the Doghouse", so I'm assuming she's looking for advice re the dog. So people who have experience of dogs have posted. It's not because we don't care about the child!

All would you all feel better if I offered her (((())))?

comewhinewithme · 11/03/2011 21:29

But Violet, humans don't really matter as long as the dog is ok. Hmm

Joolyjoolyjoo · 11/03/2011 21:30

hahaha- I am a vat of knowledge, Val Wink

silverfrog · 11/03/2011 21:30

OP, I hope you can get this sorted, and in good time - it doesn't sound like a situation (small house, no garden etc) where you can keep the dog for too long without your ds being worried.

FWIW, my dd is ASD too. and we had to re-home our fantastic and lovely dog, because dd1 got so scared of her.

we had a large house, and a huge garden, but still could not keep dd1 calm and worry free. we tried for a long time (probably too long, in hindsight) to help dd1 thorugh her issues, but ultimately, we had to re-home.

if the waiting lists are as bad as Val says - what do you think you can do about that, OP?

I ask becasue dd1 now has a true phobia of dogs. despite us keeping her and our dog totally apart. the whole thing escalated, and of course she could not understand, and probably lost a lot of trust in us as a result.

she has worked long and hard (she is only 6 now) with full support form her school, and is now in a position where she can cope with seeing a dog without screaming or wetting herself.

please don't let this escalate out of all proportion for your ds.

Tsil · 11/03/2011 21:38

OP if you are still reading I just noticed you got the dog from a rescue in Hull is that right?

I am just across the bridge in Lincolnshire and if you get desperate and need somewhere for him I could probably find him a temp home until he can be sent to a rescue, would have him myself but have 2 already.

fruitshootsandheaves · 11/03/2011 21:39

Aboardtheaxiom I can give you a phone number of someone who may be able to help with rehoming or just some border collie advice if you are still really stuck.
Hope you get it sorted. I have a collie too.

flyinstar · 11/03/2011 21:39

you say your son is autistic,long shot,but could it be that the dog is sensing something in your son,you hear of stories all the time,were dogs especially pick up on illnesses or underlying problems,he may of sensed something that spooked him?the reason i am saying this is that we have a son,epileptic/autistic,and had a spaniel that started to paw our son when he had an iminent seizure,not always,but enough to know she knew before we did,hope you get help for your dog,and don,t lose him,but goes without saying ,your ds safety is top of the pile,good luck.

Vallhala · 11/03/2011 21:39

silverfrog, that's the waiting list for Wiccaweys, not least because they are so damn good at what they do. Owing to that I'm casting the net far wider, to all breed rescue too. This is not a case of asking the OP to wait 6 months until a specific rescue can help.

Wiccaweys will however be speaking with the OP to give her as much advice and support as possible, they don't just tell people that they cannot take their dogs and just leave it at that.

silverfrog · 11/03/2011 21:42

Val, I know that.

As I said, we had to go through re-homing with our dog.

But the fact remains that is can be hard ot re-home a dog. lots of places are absolutely chock full.

and waiting can have its downsides.

I just wanted to let her know we have been there, with a child who could not understand.

violetmoon · 11/03/2011 21:43

LoopyLoopsChupaChups- I dont think the dog should get pts, I very much hope that there will be a happy outcome which all too often there isnt in these situations. I was more concerned about the "its only a nip, worse could have happend etc..." when a little boy has been emotionally and physically harmed by this dog. Also, its an emotive issue but we kill cows, pigs, sheep etc, killing humans is murder so you can really compare killing a dog to killing a human(although many people might!) My df has a rescued dog, it is aggressive towards my dd and other people and for that reason it is put in another room when we visit. You cant risk having a snappy dog around small children it isnt fair on either. The villains in this are whoever placed the dog with the op.

GORGEOUSX · 11/03/2011 21:46

Can't be arsed to read through whole thread but clearly THE DOG HAS TO GO! Your DS must come before the dog - simples. And the sooner the better, as in NOW.Shock

GORGEOUSX · 11/03/2011 21:51

Do you have any friends you could call, to come and take the dog until you find a rescue centre that will take him?

Vallhala · 11/03/2011 21:51

Sorry *silverfrog(, I thought you'd misunderstood me.

It's been a long day and my email system is playing silly buggers making access to my contact list extremely difficult and as a result of that and constant interruptions from my DC I misread you, sorry.

ilovesprouts · 11/03/2011 21:57

i have a dog any breed of dog can bite ,but if my dog bit my kids or my grandkids it would pts asap

Saggyoldclothcatpuss · 11/03/2011 22:06

Wow, what a train wreck of a thread!
Given that the OP stated very early on, that the child and the dog had been seperated, The child was fine, and the dog was leaving, perhaps someone ought to take the time to wonder, HOW THE FUCK any kind of rescue centre or even a pound, would let someone with no garden and a child with special needs adopt a collie cross dog, and then, make them sign something, saying that they cannot return the dog to the pound?? I am totally and utterly disgusted!

Vallhala · 11/03/2011 22:14

It's a disgrace, Saggy but IME there's no limit to how low some pounds will stoop.

This one calls itself a rescue in its title although it's nothing of the sort. The homechecker was the local dog warden! Shock

In this case thank feck he can't be returned to the pound as if he was he'd be killed, of that I'm in no doubt.

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