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Flippin Heck - just who does Super Nanny think she f^&king is?

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 20:29

I am rubber necking and watching.

And I heard her say to some parents who are at desperation point with a child who would not eat, and hence basically force feeding her, that "she had never, in her 20 years of childcare, seen such a thing". That is just cruel. The mother is trying to feed her child, because she has already been hospitalised with dehydration because she has not eaten. She is a mother FFS, we need our children to eat. She is not being abusive like she made out. What a f'ing bitch.

She is really getting on my tits.

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differentnameforthis · 09/02/2010 20:38

Erm...don't watch it then?

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 20:39

It shouldn't be an option to watch. The woman is dangerous

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Tortoise · 09/02/2010 20:45

But the mother started force feeding her when she wouldn't eat due to teething. She started the food issue IMHO. Look at the difference when they went on a picnic, the girl was happily looking round munching on her sandwich. I found it quite shocking to see her being force fed like that.

SoupDragon · 09/02/2010 20:47

I've not seen the programme but IMO force feeding a child simply makes a problem worse.

activate · 09/02/2010 20:48

That's not a terrible comment though.

Force-feeding a child is appalling

distraction and enjoyment are the key

It is stupid to try to force a child to eat and somewhat abusive. No excuse, even fear.

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 20:52

I totally disagree with her speaking to the parents like that. They are not malicious. Of course they are part of the problem, but they got there out of desperation for their daughter's health and not because they are abusive.

Of course they need parenting advice, and of course force feeding makes it worse, but they certainly don't need their confidence and self worth being battered anymore.

Jo Frost's smug judgey face while she was making them watch the video was really rather pathetic.

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SoupDragon · 09/02/2010 20:56

The way she speaks to them is the whole point of the programme though. It wouldn't be her if she sat them down over tea and biscuits for a cosy chat.

If they think force feeding is the answer than yes, they do need their confidence battered.

Remember that they agreed to go on the show and it has been heavily edited for full entertainment value.

Alambil · 09/02/2010 20:59

but look at the confidence it's given Sofia - she can stand up to her husband when he laughs at her trying to be assertive, she can get her DD to walk past the ice cream man, she gets her to eat a whole plate!!

Clearly not hurt that much by Jo.... and I think that Sofia generally didn't know how awful it had got; the video gave her a step back and she did seem very surprised at how they were reacting to each other

PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 09/02/2010 21:01

The mother shouldn't have force-fed her child when she was teething. But then she didn't know any different. My Mum told me to force-feed DS when he was refusing all food following a gastric bug. Only reason I didn't bow to the pressure was because I had support on MN.

satc2bringiton · 09/02/2010 21:01

I love Jo and think she was spot on tbh. Like she said '20 years experience and she has seen nothing like it'. That speaks volumes and the parents needed to hear it.

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 21:03

The smug and judgeyness is totally unnecessary. She is believing her own hype. She is totally unqualified to be doing what she is doing, and I put her in the very same category as SWMNBN.

There is never an excuse for such nastiness when you are in an 'expert' role.

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PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 09/02/2010 21:05

don't think she was being nasty...

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 21:07

The fact that she could not understand why a parent got to the situation that they were in shows she is unqualified to be dealing with these situations.

And she was nasty

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SoupDragon · 09/02/2010 21:10

why were you watching the programme then??

kikid · 09/02/2010 21:15

ladybb, this has really touched a nerve here with you has it not?

You are really not helping your corner here.

differentnameforthis · 09/02/2010 21:21

She was only stating a fact tho...force feeding a child is barbaric behaviour & doesn't help the situation one bit.

I haven't seen the programme, as it isn't on here yet, but going from previous posts, the mother actually started the issue!

PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 09/02/2010 21:21

She said:

"It was shocking to see such hostility and agression from you and to watch this young child all but choking, the behaviour that I'm seeing from yourself, Sofia, has got to change! It's obviously an absolutel(y) horrific experience for Kiron (sp?) and I can imagine not a pleasant one for the pair of you. This stops here now"

I has been edited for maximum shock value. You don't know that she didn't speak to the parents and empathise about the problems they have. It's C4 - they're just not going to show that.

Thing is, she needed telling that it's wrong. she's been force-feeding her child for over two years, and that's awful. If she was softly softly about it, the message wouldn't have gone in.

[shrugs]

differentnameforthis · 09/02/2010 21:24

Actually, Jo has years of experience being a nanny etc, so I wouldn't say that she is unqualified, tbh.

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 21:28

I am shocked that you all think it is acceptable for her to speak to people the way she does, and that a 'softly softly' approach would not work.

Why is it OK for this 'parenting guru' to speak to people like shit and judge the mother (note: NOT father), whereas any other expert who you may come across e.g. doctor, midwife, teacher etc. well, if they spoke to a parent like that, there would be uproar.

I would be questioning yourself as to why you think it is OK for this totally unqualified maverick woman to speak to parents in such an aggressive and patronising fashion.

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 21:29

Being a nanny does not give you experience in dealing with such serious psychological conditions

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PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 09/02/2010 21:33

Lady - because it's TV programme?

Because the family clearly needed help?

Because she'd spoken to 'everyone' wrt to her daughters eating habits, and nothing has changed. Presumably Sofia asked for help, knowing full well what Supernanny is like?

Sorry, but force-feeding your 4yo is disgraceful! I understand that she was at her wits end with it, but the fact is that nobody else has given her any help speaks volumes.

You're assuming that the child has a psychological problem when it could simply be that she's never been left to eat a meal by herself since she was 18mo.

Do you think force-feeding is acceptable?

satc2bringiton · 09/02/2010 21:33

But she is totally qualified and she was not in the slightest aggressive

unavailable · 09/02/2010 21:34

It wasnt a "serious psychological problem", it was learnt behaviour. I think the mum was empowered by Jo to take control back. All the previous contact mum had with "experts" hadnt helped. This seemed to work - result, surely?

differentnameforthis · 09/02/2010 21:34

"sticks tongue out"

Are you 5?

LauraIngallsWilder · 09/02/2010 21:35

The thing is ladybb - I would be happy for Jo to come into my home for a chat (I am smugly confident she wouldnt find much to moan about in our home)
SWMNBN wouldnt get past the doorstep under any circumstances

I havent watched the whole programme yet but I think the way the 4yo was being force fed was totally 'unassepable' and that the parents behaviour was disgraceful

I have great problems getting my dd to eat but would never ever even think of force feeding her!