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Flippin Heck - just who does Super Nanny think she f^&king is?

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 20:29

I am rubber necking and watching.

And I heard her say to some parents who are at desperation point with a child who would not eat, and hence basically force feeding her, that "she had never, in her 20 years of childcare, seen such a thing". That is just cruel. The mother is trying to feed her child, because she has already been hospitalised with dehydration because she has not eaten. She is a mother FFS, we need our children to eat. She is not being abusive like she made out. What a f'ing bitch.

She is really getting on my tits.

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PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 09/02/2010 21:36

and sorry - but a doctor SHOULD have spoken to her like that. If someone has a medical condition that is exacerbated by behaviour, the doctor should tell them that they behaviour needs to stop (you have bronchitis, so STOP SMOKING!, or 'your knees are giving way, LOSE SOME WEIGHT)

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 21:43

Oh, I see why you like Supernanny so much now, differentname, it's because you have a smug factor too

"It wasn't a serious psychological problem, it was learnt behaviour". The 2 can be the very same thing

She is totally NOT qualified. A nanny is a nanny, not a Psychologist.

And it's OK because it is a TV programme - well I have heard it all now. FFS.

And because she got no help from anywhere else is not an excuse - perhaps she did not know where else to go.

And 'seemed to work' indeed. Would you expect anything else 'for the tv programme?'

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satc2bringiton · 09/02/2010 21:45

So you won't be tuning in next week then

differentnameforthis · 09/02/2010 21:49

Hahaha, no smugness here! Just because I think force feeding a child is barbaric?

unavailable · 09/02/2010 21:50

"It wasn't a serious psychological problem, it was learnt behaviour". The 2 can be the very same thing hmm

Can they - explain please, Lady Bla?

harecare · 09/02/2010 21:51

Ladyblahblah: Abuse doesn't have to be deliberate and maliciously intended. Force feeding is a form of abuse it is a fact. The problem would come if after pointing out that fact parents took no action or help. These parents sought out help and I hope it works for them - I'm watching it on C4+1

differentnameforthis · 09/02/2010 21:51

So do you think force feeding is acceptable then?

Maybe that is why you hate Jo so much!

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 21:55

I have never at any point said that force feeding is OK. I have said this family were is crisis, and that shame and blame methods do not work.

They simply don't. They may for a few shots for the end of the programme, but I guarantee the parents will not have fundamentally changed.

unavailable - if learnt behaviour presents itself as being problematic psychologically, then it is a serious psychological problem. Or put another way, a serious psychological problem could be learnt behaviour.

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PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 09/02/2010 21:55

Lady - really, feel free to pick at the arguments, and ignore the main points I made.

I said that it wasn't a psycological problem, it was the mother's problem that caused the learned behaviour and eating problems. Force-feeding may well cause psychological distress in children, very likely to in fact. Stopping this habit within the family, alongside stopping ice-cream as a substitute for normal food has obviously worked!

Answer my question please - do you think force-feeding is asseptable?

PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 09/02/2010 21:57

x-posts.

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LadyBlaBlah · 09/02/2010 21:59

And finally, because I have to go, I also fundamentally disagree with having children put on television with these problems in their families when they are unable to give their consent.

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AnyFucker · 09/02/2010 22:01

pure, are you you really SuperNanny ?

'cos she actually says "asseptable" rather than "acceptable"

wannaBe · 09/02/2010 22:02

op - you are the only one that has issue with this woman. Does that not tell you something?

Or do you force feed your child and perhaps what she said has touched a nerve.

Doesn't it tell you something that people resort to becoming entertainment fodder in return for solutions to their problem?

Also - people are paid for appearing on this show. It is entertainment, and heavily edited for the shock factor.

harecare · 09/02/2010 22:05

Then don't watch ladyblah.

unavailable · 09/02/2010 22:05

Goodness Lady Bla bla, you are living up to your name!

"if learnt behaviour presents itself as being problematic psychologically, then it is a serious psychological problem. Or put another way, a serious psychological problem could be learnt behaviour."

In this case, there is no evidence that the child's learnt behaviour was damaging her psychologically. Her behaviour changed very quickly when the mother's response to the behaviour changed. If it was a psychological problem, it is unlikely the change could be so rapid.

pinkplasticspoon · 09/02/2010 22:07

Ladyblabla I'm here to support you on this one. totally with you. JO is awful and I had to switched off in outrage.

Like you, I cannot belive the support this charlaton gets.

YoureGorgeous · 09/02/2010 22:08

i disagree with kids as freak shows too

Cathpot · 09/02/2010 22:13

Can I just throw Tania Byron into the mix? She also seems to get results but I find her much easier to watch than Jo because whatever the issue she seems to be able to get through to parents without humilating them. I have nothing against Jo incidently but sometimes in her programmes you are made painfully aware you are watching 'entertainment'.

wannaBe · 09/02/2010 22:16

yes but whose fault is it these kids are being used as freak shows? Oh yes - the parents' fault.

People choose to go on these shows. Nobody holds a gun to their heads and makes them do it.

Oh and they're paid.

PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 09/02/2010 22:28

AnyFucker [pokes tongue]

agree with the OP that kids shouldn't be the subject of programmes like this, but kind of unavoidable I suppose - there will always be people to watch it, to film it and wanting to star in it. If the demand is there then someone will create the supply.

AnyFucker · 09/02/2010 22:38

sorry, pure

I thought you might have done it deliberately and I was the only one sharp-eyed enough to notice

LauraIngallsWilder · 09/02/2010 23:04

Next weeks programme should be interesting - it features a girl whose mum has spent a fortune entering her into 'beauty' contests

I remember them being shown in a tv prog about beauty contests - they were shown at their church, girl on the stage being prayed for, hoping success in the contest, twas very sickening to watch (the girl didnt win the contest and threw an huge tantrum!)

ThatVikRinA22 · 09/02/2010 23:17

sometimes, people just need telling like it is. and force feeding a 2 year old is bloody out of order. so its wrong to tell parents that now is it? ok then.

maybe i should take over as supernanny cos i just fucking do the same to the parents and see how they like it. choke on that mother fucker...
do i get the gig? phones ringing....could be channel 4...

ThatVikRinA22 · 09/02/2010 23:25

oh and on a serious note she is setting her child up for some serious problems. i had a step father who forced me to eat and it haunts me to this day. he was a total bastard in many ways but the food thing....still makes me gag now when i think about it.

PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 09/02/2010 23:30

gah, don't apologise AF! [pokes tongue again]
twas attempting humour, innit

OP is clearly on the defensive. Christ, if she thinks Supernanny was rude maybe she should camp out in AIBU