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Supernanny on now.!Woman bf her 3 year old. Wonder what Supernanny will say?

95 replies

peachsmuggler · 24/09/2008 20:06

Oh dear....

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controlfreakinfreaky · 24/09/2008 21:00

"I wouldn't MAKE a mum stop..."

jeeeesus!

mumhadenough · 24/09/2008 21:01

Yeah next week's looks like a real cracker! She looks like she's acting like a four year old!

peachsmuggler · 24/09/2008 21:01

God, turned out the bf was the LEAST of their worries. Looks like they had seen a lot of improvement which is great.

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welliemum · 24/09/2008 21:06

imananny, my children could walk up to me and ask for a breastfeed at the age of 10 months.

So I think that's a pretty rubbish guideline about when to stop.

Lots of evidence pointing to approx 3 years as the physiologically normal age to stop - with a huge variation on either side of that age. The usefulness of bf at that age is generally immune-related and emotional, rather than nutritional.

Making up rules about when a specific person should stop is a waste of time.

Heated · 24/09/2008 21:15

Am watching it now on C4+1.

So she fed her child in the drive before going to the supermarket and then in the car park once they arrived? Blimey.

And dad sleeps on a mat on the floor.

imananny · 24/09/2008 21:15

meant if could ask as in speaking (as the 3yr did) not as in just going up

as i said, that is my opinion,i am not asking any of you to agree with it, but just what i feel

if a mum asked for help to give up BF then i would help her, if she wanted to and did BF till child was 4/5/6 then thats up to her

what some of you seem to be forgetting is that the mum WANTED to give up BF

SN did not force her to stop, she asked for help and got it

welliemum · 24/09/2008 21:29

Yes, my children could ask for milk at 10 months. Not just tugging my top or whatever.

This woman wants to stop bf - that's an excellent reason to stop.

A child achieving particular motor and speech milestones is a terrible reason to stop because it's completely random. There's no connection. You might as well say they need to stop bf at the time they first travel in an aeroplane.

I'm only arguing this with you because you're a nanny btw - have no problem with how people decide to stop feeding their own children - it's entirely their business. But if you're advising parents you have a duty not to feed them incorrect information.

controlfreakinfreaky · 24/09/2008 21:34

wellie, you're forgetting she's a nanny who "wouldn't MAKE a mum stop unless she wanted to...."

since when do nannies expect to be MAKING their employers do anything???

do you think you may have some boundary issues ian?

imananny · 24/09/2008 21:37

it was SN who said it didnt have any nurtienal value that you couldnt get from a balance diet not me

I have helped mums stop BF/wean child off at night etc when child is whatever age, but thats as THEY wanted to and asked for my advise - would never force my views on them

i did wonder if my user name would automatically make a difference, compared if a were a parent or used any name, and therefore you wouldnt know im a nanny - iykwim

as i said SN was asked to help this family with some problems and seems to me she got the results the parents wanted - so this must be good

IAteDavinaForDinner · 24/09/2008 21:46

What a horribly sad programme.

I do think the BF was becoming a problem for them all, but it was a symptom rather than a cause. I think the BFing was nothing to do with control and everything to do with a little girl being grateful for some stability in a fairly stormy and inconsistent world. I bet if they'd got the behaviour under control generally and started treating each other a bit more pleasantly then the BF 'problem' would resolve itself as she wouldn't feel this constant urge for reassurance.

I didn't like the way it mase made out to be the problem, and I didn't like the way it was interpreted as controlling. But the mum was ready to give up and quite happy to do so, which is fine.

The slapping was totally shocking but I can sympathise with the mum and know what it's like to be at that snapping point when doing something totally wrong is a breath away. Which worries me a lot.

I'm glad to see they're all getting some help now.

IAteDavinaForDinner · 24/09/2008 21:46

was made out

dittany · 24/09/2008 21:52

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puffling · 24/09/2008 22:36

Welliemum, what's this thread got to do with your incredibly advanced offspring? And even if your 10 motn old could speak, would you trust their judgement?

bloomingfedup · 24/09/2008 22:56

Whether mum wanted to stop BF or not SN attutuide vilified extended B/F. The parents did need to get a grip though. I heart SN normally although she did seem to have PMT in this one!

welliemum · 24/09/2008 23:04

LOL, puffling, I came on this thread specially to boast about having little geniuses We all know that the age when they walk and talk is soooooooo important for future success. Not.

On a more serious note, the "walking and talking" thing is a very common landmark for people to feel breastfeeding has gone on long enough. But it's wrong - there's good evidence that children benefit from bf long after the age when most are walking and talking - and professionals looking after children should not perpetuate this idea.

Put another way: a childcare professional advising a mother that breastfeeding has no value because the child can walk and talk might - not necessarily would of course - but might actually affect that child's health with their advice.

So, Mum saying "I've had enough, I want to stop" = great reason for stopping.

SN saying "You ought to stop, a 3 year old doesn't need bf" = a bad (because ignorant) reason for stopping.

Podrick · 25/09/2008 17:23

This mum was breast feeding in order to keep her dh away from her.

I have never seen swearing like that in children - I think they must be mirroring their parents - and I think they had the most trouble with the eldest because he had had the most years of bad treatment.

SilentTerror · 25/09/2008 21:12

Podrick,I thought that about the husband too.
Seemed like breast feeding was a good excuse to keep him out of her bed after a difficult birth.

TheCrackFox · 25/09/2008 21:26

I agree with Podrick, it seemed that the mum used BF to keep her DH away from her.

istinkhavingaboyoragirl · 29/09/2008 16:36

she definetly had her hands full!!
makes you realise how good your own kids are watching that.

Highlander · 30/09/2008 13:43

the surriptitoius little messages that you give imananny, would be enough to make your employer feel ashamed/bad about extended BF. The disapproving looks, unqualified statements (no nutritional benefit, not if they can walk....etc)

Not 'forcing' a mum to give up BF is not the same as giving your complete support to a BFing mum.

You are not a qualified, practising BF counsellor, thus you should not be giving any BF advice, other than anecdotal, friendly advice from your own personal experience.

The problem with you nanny/babywhisperer/Gina Ford types is that, while you are very good at establishing routine for toddlers, your evidence base for discipline/sleeping/Bfing is sorely lacking.

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