Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Telly addicts

IF YOUR DH/DP WAS ARRESTED FOR DOWNLOADING PHOTOS WHAT WOULD YOU DO?..........BBC1....TONIGHT.....FIONA'S STORY....BBC1

194 replies

RTKangaMummy · 31/08/2008 18:49

TONIGHT

OP posts:
3andnomore · 31/08/2008 23:23

shoot, because he is a wanker ?!?!?!

anon, really pleased life is getting better for you....!And congrats on your pg

wanttobeanon · 31/08/2008 23:26

shoot - because he is in denial. My husband didn't think he had done anything wrong either which I was told made him a further danger as until he admitted he had done wrong he couldn't be rehabilitated.

sleepycat · 31/08/2008 23:31

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

3andnomore · 31/08/2008 23:32

it is shocking...but he reality

NotAnOtter · 31/08/2008 23:33

all too often they do not think what hey do is wrong

solidgoldbrass · 01/09/2008 02:06

I didn't watch the programme but it sounds to me like it might have been a more interesting story if it had been about someone who was accused of possessing child porn but actually was innocent (a number of the people caught up in Operation Ore had been the victims of identity theft or had looked at porn which was nothing to do with children but had paid through a website that also handled payments for illegal sites).

AnnVan · 01/09/2008 02:27

I think I'll give this one amiss. We had a youth worker in the church in our area who was arrested because child porn was found on his computer
Everyone thought he was a lovely bloke, he used to take homeless people into his house and let them stay over etc. turned out he was gay, and the reason he let homeless men stay at his house was not pure charity
He tried to blame the presence of the porn on one of these homeless men he'd taken in, but it was actually the homeless guy who found the porn and reported it to the police. The funny thing was, that there were loads of people in the church who flat refused to believe that it was true. (even though he eventually cracked and admitted it) it was like that bit in Donny Darko when Patrick Swayze's character is found to have kiddy porn, and the nutty lady won't believe it.

AnnVan · 01/09/2008 02:30

Sorry, previous post may have come across a bit homophobic, it's not meant to be, it's just that he always made out he was such a nice guy for taking these people in, but in reality, he was taking them in for sexual reasons. No one knew he was gay until this whole thing came out, and the sordid truth about his so-called charity came out.

mummydoc · 01/09/2008 10:51

haven't read the whole thread so sorry f this has already been posted, but surely if the husabnad was being ix by hte police then social services would not have let him stay in the house witht he 3 children, i thought it was good tv for once, i oscillated between thiinking Fionas character was weak and pathetic for letting him near the children and then realising how his character was so manipulative of her ...difficult watching,

candyfluff · 01/09/2008 14:48

watched this last night witha huge lump in my throat and yes a few tears . fiona is stronger than i would of been in that situation .

donnie · 01/09/2008 14:56

I thought it was quite good in certain ways: the Jeremy Northam character refused to accept he had done anything very wrong - and I think a lot of paedophiles think like that. If I'm only looking and not actually doing then what's so wrong? that was his mentality and he stuck to it.

I also think he was helped by his very white middle class security blanket of money,a good job, influential friends, social standing etc....does anyone else think this was a factor in the way that he avoided blame? I certainly do. In my view there was a class agenda there. He used his education and brains to outwit everyone , including his own wife.

It was well acted but there should have been more focus on the effect upon the children IMO. Plus there was a definite implication he was sexually abusing at least one of the daughters which should have been followed up.Is it accurate that he would have been let off scot free though? would he not have at least been cautioned or put on the SO register for a term?

unknownrebelbang · 01/09/2008 15:24

Men of all sorts of backgrounds deny/diminish responsibility in these type of offences (as do a lot of criminals generally). Thought his portrayal was quite realistic.

The decision not to prosecute does happen although the drama didn't explain why, and I'm not sure how involved SSD would get at this stage, given that he was on bail throughout, and no obvious evidence of abuse within the family at this point.

3andnomore · 01/09/2008 15:46

donnie...which daughter ar you thinking he was abusing...

I sometimes thought the oldest one might have been..but then, I thought she could also just be a completely normal girl of that age that hates her mum for breaking up with her dad...but it should have been followed up

NotAnOtter · 01/09/2008 21:52

there is often no indication to the world at large that a girl is the subject of abuse

BigGitDad · 01/09/2008 22:05

I did not think there was a girl who was abused but the film indicated that his behaviour was borderline, ie the bathtime with the girls, before the police came round you could have said that was normal behaviour in it's innocence, but once it came out he'd downloaded pictures then it put a different light on it, (but in a way that left you unsure about his motive).
Again the same for the daughter who slept in his bed, as he said where else was she going to sleep in his flat given the lack of space. Again it could have been totally innocent, she was his daughter and plenty of adults have their children in their beds at some point. But again I felt the purpose of that storyline was to induce doubt in the viewers mind as to his intentions and especailly that of the mother.
I found it a good film/play and one that left me feeling very uncomfortable at certain parts, but it made you think very hard.

msdemeanor · 01/09/2008 22:10

Thought this was excellent drama. Must have been as you lot are discussing it as if was real
Felt sure the makers did lots of research beforehand. Wasn't he let off in the story because he'd destroyed the laptops with the worst downloaded images on, leaving only older girls, and the CPS decided there was no realistic prospect of conviction.

BigGitDad · 01/09/2008 22:17

yes and only he and his wife knew the truth

3andnomore · 02/09/2008 18:20

lol msdemenour....I was only ever speaking hypothetically...you know.... I knew it wasn't real, but it was a story that sadly often is real...does that make sense...

BigGit, you have a good point with the things that are accepted (and should be) as normal Dad things do look very different if there are doubts about the persons intentions...!
To be honest, he possible was only the kind that was "only" looking and had never acted abusive to his or other Kids in an inappropiate manner...however...I would not be comfortable with someone I know watching Childporn to take the risk...does that amkes sense...!Because you never know when just looking isn't going to be enough.

And yes, msdemenour, he was let off for that reason, which was why it was so infuriating, really....showed how clever and devious he acted....which only makes him less trustworthy...sigh

mamhaf · 03/09/2008 21:09

I watched this last night after recording it.

I thought it was a superb, but uncomfortable, drama.

The screenplay built up Fiona's situation very well....a bit of a wimp, totally dependent on Simon, and they had loved each other deeply once - plus her entire world (apart from the choir) was her children. So much to lose if she didn't play along with him.

The preview I saw in the Sunday Times warned that viewers would be frustrated with her reaction and that was so true.

Someone with more self-esteem and independence would have been out of the door with the kids after he admitted his guilt to her...especially the bit about smashing up her laptop...but then that would have ended the drama early on.

I reckon it was based on this investigation - although clearly Simon was one of those whose allegations of ID fraud was false.

I worked with someone who turned out to be a paedophile, and despite the compelling evidence which sent him to prison, he would never admit to himself he'd done anything wrong - that's why Simon was so adamant he was in the right. He slowly revealed himself to be the controlling misogynist that he was (just like the bloke I knew).

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread