Big Brother ITV2 - Thread 4

[TellingBone]

Carry on Alarming

Also agree that lynx is just playing the game. When the others are bitching to him he does his best to seem like he’s agreeing with them yet says very neutral things - a bit like: ‘oh really? That’s intense. Not good.’ Etc. He’s a big old fakey fakerson and will coast to the final.

Interesting thread here from scousers and giving some insight into vile Phillip:

https://www.reddit.com/r/bigbrotheruk/s/VWYYOdErr9

I think he’s very secure at being there until the end from doing the cooking and being useful in tasks.

Yup. He won't win, though. Hopefully.

I think BB really ought to be calling Omar to the diary room today and talking to him about his behaviour towards Rhianna.

It will infuriate him but send a strong message to young women/girls watching the show - that controlling behaviour should not just be accepted. It isn't ok to make her feel that she needs to be fixed and isn't allowed to talk about their relationship or have male friends.

On a more positive note, he has lost any chance of winning the show now with the more unpleasant parts of his personality so clearly on display. I would love for him to be voted out now and I expect everyone in the house is getting tired of the relationship dramas between him and Rhianna.

Rhianna spoke tough then acted weak but she is a victim in this and very immature, despite she doesn't think she is.

If I were Rhianna's mother, I would want her out of the house immediately. I would have used my money and clout to have her removed and then gone public on why. It is chilling viewing and insidious in its build up - that we can all see, but she cannot.

'your feelings aren't facts' is an expression designed to remove her own sense of reality and agency. I hope he gets booted out next. I loathe him and his moronic gangster boy voice and turn of phrase.

Twix is being treated horribly. She didn't waver when offered the 30 seconds (unlike the selfish princess) and then to see the reactions of the clique must have been really crushing, only for Phillip to do the same not only shows it's every man and woman for themselves, but a widespread hostility towards her. I don't like watching it and think this is one of the nastiest houses for years.

Lynx is the most calculating and would compromise his gran to get to the final.

Harry (his politics aside) does seem the sweetest person in there.

Sorry to say that I find Yasmin a little gross.

Current position: Can't stand any of them.

What is gross about Yasmin? I really haven't noticed that, apart from her loud belching on last night's show. Which was disgusting, admittedly.

I've seen a thread on Facebook about Omar's behaviour towards Rihanna, and many people have said they'd complained to Ofcom, because BB showed it.

Extrapolate that across other FB posts, and other social media, and Ofcom are going to be busy today!

Personally, I think they were right to show it. It will hopefully open up discussions around acceptable and unacceptable behaviour within relationships.

I think Omar is in for a tough time after BB though.

As is Philip, going by the Reddit link shared by @RapunzelHadExtensions

I did say a little gross. The hanging around in her night clothes, constantly wearing a blanket, her sloth like presentation, and the belching.. She is slovenly and seems to be a lethargic presence.

I would personally struggle to live with someone like that.

As I said, at this point I don't like any of them and don't see a worthy winner.

I agree they were right to show it.

But it would be good if they also showed BB attempting to deal with it and talking to both Rhianna and Omar about it.

This was eye opening. Someone so dodgy and nasty would never have hidden it in such a show.

He was obviously deluded enough to think the show could be a platform to stardom for him. 🙄

I don't really see the argument about not showing it really anyway

The point of the show isn't to not show what's happening

Omar presents as someone who is unapologetically patriarchal. Why might that be? Is this the norm amongst young men now?

Not all young men, obviously.

I don't really care why he is like he is, I just know I no longer support him as a housemate.

@FreeTheOakTreeThere’s a lot of lying on the beds from other housemates too which annoys me. I don’t like Yasmin keeping her pyjamas on all day as well.
No idea who I think should win, would like Omar, Philip or Rochelle out this week.

Maybe we could do a mn trip to this?

I think lynx’s response to Cat sharing concerns about Omar is quite telling. As someone said, he very much just makes the right noises when someone has an issue but doesn’t actually give an opinion or offer advice. He’s desperate not to jeopardise his chances of getting to the end and seems to be keeping his head down after the Jedward drama.

But with the Omar thing, as a man I think his ambivalence is concerning. His comments of ‘it can’t be that bad or she wouldn’t still be with him’ and ‘if they’re back in bed together that’s good enough for me’ show a lack of understanding about toxic/ abusive dynamics. Almost victim blamey. I mean I agree it’s v frustrating she went back to Omar but she’s young and naive and it’s hardly a normal environment in there. To me, it’s disappointing when other men don’t recognise and challenge mistreatment of women by other men and lynx shrugging his shoulders is pretty lame, especially when they’re all living in the same house.

I really can’t abide Twinks but I think Philip and Rochelle are being exceptionally nasty to her. The whispering, smirks and muttered comments are bordering on bullying. They were mocking her about her response to the time task but we all know they would’ve kicked off if she’d taken the extra minutes. As the two oldest housemates they’re the most childish and spiteful of the lot!

But with the Omar thing, as a man I think his ambivalence is concerning. His comments of ‘it can’t be that bad or she wouldn’t still be with him’ and ‘if they’re back in bed together that’s good enough for me’ show a lack of understanding about toxic/ abusive dynamics. Almost victim blamey. I mean I agree it’s v frustrating she went back to Omar but she’s young and naive and it’s hardly a normal environment in there. To me, it’s disappointing when other men don’t recognise and challenge mistreatment of women by other men and lynx shrugging his shoulders is pretty lame, especially when they’re all living in the same house

With Lynx, I think it is even more basic; he doesn't care. His is very single minded in his quest to win, and so I think he literally treats everyone else as noisy obstacles. Even his cooking is a solo activity he uses as a mindful task because his determination is all about getting to the finish line. I know that is most HM's goals too, but what stands out to me is that aside from the kerfuffle with Jedward, Lynx seems steelily in control.

I just remembered something from an earlier programme. At least, I think this is what I remember.

Twinks was talking to Omar about Loius Theroux's programne about the manosphere, and she said he should watch it.

He said (paraphrasing) that he didn't need to, and that he'd started watching it, but fell asleep, as it was only LT getting thrown out of places.

I wonder if he did watch it and found it uncomfortable viewing, but couldn't relate what he was seeing on screen, to his own outlook and behaviour.

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt, Omar.

Agree with this especially stupid wannabe gangster/andrew Tate Omar. And the treatment of twinks is verging on bullying.

This really annoys me when people start trying to censor what was shown. They are right to show it. Why should Omar’s vile behaviour go unchecked - as it would if we hadn’t seen it.

Yeah, I've never really got the love for Lynx (from some) and find him a bit boring and a bit annoying and just not that great really. I don't inherently dislike him, but I don't like him either.

He did look great in the skin tight Superhero suit though. 😆

I don’t love Lynx but neither do I dislike him. He isn’t standing up for much or showing much of his true self it seems. He must have opinions! Still it’s not a crime to be quiet about them and coast to the final.

The Omar to Rihanna behaviour is scary stuff ..
clearly coercive behaviour -
I wonder how big brothers duty of care team will handle this …
they should have given her a separate room for sleeping last night, it was painful seeing her bat into bed with her abuser …