Welcome to the castle - it gets worse here every day | 2026 Celebrity Traitors Thread 4 [TV Pace]

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Previous thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5587046-welcome-to-the-castle-we-take-it-day-by-day-2026-celebrity-traitors-thread-3-tv-pace?page=1

This is a tv pace thread so make sure you’re up to date with the live broadcast and yes, previous series (regular and celeb) will be discussed!

Please no spoilers if you read them online!

The story so far (as at end of episode 4)

Traitors (still active)
Maya Jama
James Acaster (recruited)
Professor Hannah Fry (recruited)

Faithful

James Blunt
Jerry Hall
Joanne McNally
Joe Lycett
King Kenny
Michael Sheen
Miranda Hart
Sebastian Croft
Sharon Rooney

Up for Murder
Leigh-Anne Pinnock
Rob Beckett
Romesh Ranganathan
RossKemp (full name)

Murdered
Amol Rajan
Bella Ramsey

Banished
Richard E Grant (Traitor)
Myha’la
Julie Hesmondhalgh

James A has long been a supporter of the trans community, and if he lost friends for calling out a bigot like Ricky Gervais then good riddance.

I don't really care if anyone is nice or not. I want James A to go because he is a dull Traitor, and some others to go because they are dull as Faithfuls.
Every word out of James A's mouth is that he didn't want to be a Traitor. We got it! Say something else for a change.

Leave the gossip and private life comments to the Daily Fail and their attempts to put a rocket under millions of people actually enjoying something, with their stupid shit-stirring stories locked behind their stupid subscription model and be thankful we can come together on here (thank you @CaveMum for keeping the threads going) for fun Traitors chat whether we’re fans of particular people or not.

Sadly, I agree. I want traitors to revel in it.

I think he's put a bit more into it since Kenny was recruited - like OH that's what I'm supposed to be doing 😆

I'm not seeing the whole 'Maya is amazing' as a Traitor thing people are saying - she has zero strategy, doesn't come across very bright, and is not being at all ruthless. She's just coasting with luck.

Maya is good at staying under the radar.
Maybe the yawning thing won’t help though

Without wishing to add to the derail, I am actually really surprised he pretends to think men can be women, because the reason he hates being a traitor is because he can't stand lying and forcing people to go along with it, even when it's within the rules - required, even - of a mere game that everyone is consensually playing. Clearly he can put that aside when it suits his self image as a Good Person and fucks women over. To be fair, he's far from alone, but it really is interesting where lying makes him feel so stressed and dishonest, and where he doesn't give a sun blushed shit.

Anyhoo.

Trans people exist whether you like it or not, you know.

To be fair, James Blount is also a terrible Faithful guessing wise, but he's entertaining and good at Challenges.

So others can comment on this thread about someone’s appearance, intelligence etc but I’m not allowed to say Joe is lovely and James A isn’t ?

I agree. He always punches up not down and he has shown himself to be thoughtful and courteous in this show.

I don't think anyone has denied that men who claim to be women exist, they're just not women in the same way that they're not teacups or lampshades. You know how in the show, the traitors existing, but saying they are faithfuls, does not mean they actually are faithfuls and they're just lying? It's the same principle.

Anyway, sorry guys!

They are trans women though.

When is Michael Sheen going to get his time to shine, do we think?

Here is my attempt to stop this lovely thread from being derailed.

By talking about the show.

My slightly cynical self has read several articles where Traitors are getting scolded for merching.
Who are we kidding-of course they are.
It's why ppl go on talk shows etc.

James A releasing an album?
James B linking suit-which I will say deserves a link
Miranda linking her merch by saying "Gallop on over to shop" etc and selling lots of things with galloping slogans on them.
She might have felt a spontaneous gallop but I feel as though she has ticked off a personal mission by galloping down the corridor to make galloping great again.

I think he's going to be murdered next.

After the plain sight murder, you mean? Why? He's been pretty low lying, I think.

Yeah, I’d been thinking this a while back. Self promotion!!!

Yes, after the plain sight murder. Because he was outed as the daddy of the table and someone people listen to.
I don't know why, but I still expect Leigh-,Anne to win.

I sometimes wonder if traitors shouldn't murder the influential personalities as a matter of course. He's only a threat if he's on their tracks and it doesn't look as though he is. He might start looking suspicious if he stays in.

Sudden thought... One of Hannah's points when she was doing her calculations was that the producers never put the three traitors together in one of the cars. Perhaps players should be able to arrange themselves into the cars. It would probably help to give people ideas...

Apologies for contributing to the derail.

Back to the topic at hand.

Whoever is not murdered out of Jerry and Rosskemp will have to be left well alone murder-wise otherwise it will point the finger squarely at James A and Maya.

I wonder if it’s an instant murder or if we get the full “slow death” able Diane and Paloma? Can you imagine Rosskemp crumbling under the realisation that his worst nightmare has come true, while Joanne and Leigh-Anne both whisper “He’s always there!”. Whatever happens, he’s a goner within the next episode or 2 because the Faithful will banish him.

The next murder has to be someone so out of the blue that it throws everyone into a spin, so I think Sharon or Bash.You have to murder those who will never get banished.

no not sharon or bash
bash could win in fact, as could sharon
dont kill them!

Hope they don't! I always want Traitors to win.

Can you imagine Rosskemp crumbling under the realisation that his worst nightmare has come true,

Exactly this. If he’s not the yawnee who is murdered, the boy who cried wolf will play out. Going round telling everyone he yawned and how they were all yawning and how silly that will sound 🤣